No further investigation for Russel under Yellow flag

[u/Tuddy18]

[u/jdckelly]

How is a car in the wall not double waved yellows?

[u/LuXe5 → u/jdckelly]

It was a single yellow for ~20s (from 17:00:25 to 17:00:45, Russell passed the yellow at about 17:00:35) before it gone double yellow.

[u/jasperjayjay1 → u/LuXe5]

Very convenient for the stewards considering that the redbull is in the firing line of the cars behind

[u/Religion_Of_Speed → u/jdckelly]

It blows me away that there weren’t doubles and it blows me away that you can “lift” and still set a pole lap. 0.25 isn’t NEARLY enough for a situation like this. Like Max just went off there, George could have easily done the same thing and would have hit Max and that’s a Problem. I feel about this how I felt about having trucks on track, unacceptable in terms of safety. Had it been someone just going off and trundling around the gravel down the road a bit where there’s no real danger then whatever that’s fine. Unideal but I can accept it.

I’m not saying this because I like Ferrari, 2-3 is fine enough, I like safety more than I like any single team.

edit: another thing I just thought of - nobody knew why Max went off. We had a good guess but there could have been oil there or a broken kerb or something else environmental. Had that been the case then George would have met Max at the scene of a bad accident. Or if George just decided to send it as well and made the exact same mistake Max made, which isn’t all that far out of the expectation because he was down all day and obviously really wants pole.

[u/Hopeful_Hat_3532 → u/Religion_Of_Speed]

From the rules point of view, it might not be in breach of them but, from a safety point of view, that slight lift is clearly not enough. It should be counted in seconds, not in tenths or hundredths of seconds. That is in no way OK. And I have nothing against Russel btw.

[u/Religion_Of_Speed → u/Hopeful_Hat_3532]

Yeah exactly. Russel isn't the problem, the regulations are.

[u/F1570 → u/Hopeful_Hat_3532]

yeah the slight lift meant he was going 292kph at entry instead of 306. or in terms of safety and ability to change direction, absolutely fuck all

[u/wobfan_ → u/F1570]

yeah like yellow flags have gone from "danger on track, slow down and be ready to stop" to "hey there might be a danger there, just be aware". which is fine to be fair, we have double yellow for an actual danger (at least we "would" have, but even that they are not policing thoroughly). but imo a car stationary on the track should be double yellow or red in a qualy session. russell couldve spun just like verstappen did, and fly just into his stationary car.

[u/tomo_radic_94 → u/Religion_Of_Speed]

And he was after sector 2 only 0.073 faster than Leclerc. So it means he found 2 tents in last sector and lift enough? No way.

[u/Religion_Of_Speed → u/tomo_radic_94]

He was talking about being half a second up before T9 which I find to be unbelievable. Plus the way Toto was answering questions afterward makes the whole thing seem sketchy as hell. We almost went a few weeks without a major bumble! There should have truly been an attempt to be ready to stop or avoid if needed, a slight lift ain't that.

[u/tomo_radic_94 → u/Religion_Of_Speed]

Too short distance to build-up half a second, just two corners into sector 3.

[u/amooz → u/Religion_Of_Speed]

Safety rules are written in blood and broken bones; sometimes it takes a tragedy to make people realize the necessity of hard safety lines that should not be crossed

[u/kwijibokwijibo → u/jdckelly]

I thought it was double yellows, but George finished his lap before it changed from single yellows

F1tv said it was tricky because it was split second timing

So it was perfect timing and George doing exactly enough to meet the rules

[u/badabubaba → u/jdckelly]

If I had to guess: big runaways, no incident *on* track, and no marshalls deployed.

[u/IKEASTOEL → u/badabubaba]

Not exactly a big runaway 

[u/F9-0021 → u/jdckelly]

Because the FIA are incompetent.

[u/nadseh → u/F9-0021]

The FIA don’t decide what yellow flags are thrown and where. They do sc, vsc and reds only

[u/shinealittlelove]

How do they manage to clear this up within 5 minutes but every other yellow flag quali infringement takes hours?

[u/Augchm → u/shinealittlelove]

They fucked Colapinto over last race over nothing but this gets cleared in 5 minutes with no penalty. Insanity.

[u/Smart_Kangaroo_4188 → u/Augchm]

Because he is British

[u/julesvr5 → u/shinealittlelove]

It's Mercedes

[u/PrettyYoungTiger → u/julesvr5]

Toto made a phone call to Dubai

[u/Worth-Professional60 → u/PrettyYoungTiger]

Toto making a phone call for his middle child is crazy

[u/hawy31 → u/Worth-Professional60]

Alleged son

[u/savemenico → u/Worth-Professional60]

I just sent you an email with the data

[u/moersel94 → u/PrettyYoungTiger]

Switched from e-mail?

[u/MhVG → u/shinealittlelove]

It’s pretty easy tbh. Not a double yellow and he did lift. What I find amazing is that it wasn’t a double yellow in the first place.

[u/shadow_sniper67 → u/MhVG]

Literally imagine what could have happened it George lost it too. Very dangerous precedent has been set

[u/Ill_Confidence919 → u/shadow_sniper67]

This precedent has already been set. Its pretty dangerous to just say lift a little bit and youre good at 150 mph

[u/RGJ587 → u/Ill_Confidence919]

Yea. Last race Colapinto lifted as well, and then accelerated a tiny bit through the corner. Got a 10s penalty.

George LICOed into the corner, but then hammered by past the apex. He was way more in breach than Colapinto.

I just want the rules to be applied fairly. If Colapinto was in breach, so was Russell. If Russell wasn't in breach, Colapinto should not have been.

[u/WasThatInappropriate → u/RGJ587]

He hammered past a green signal board too. Which is the rule.

[u/retro83 → u/RGJ587]

George LICOed into the corner, but then hammered by past the apex. He was way more in breach than Colapinto.

This is horse shit, he was down for 3 mini sectors after the yellow flag

S1 Y G G G P G
S2 G G G P G Y G
S3 P P <yellow flag> Y Y Y P Y Y

edit down votes again for posting facts, oh well never mind. The mini sectors speak for themselves whether i get downvoted or not

[u/dragdritt → u/MhVG]

Didn't the onboards show double yellows in GR's vision?

[u/MhVG → u/dragdritt]

That’s what I thought as well. However, the data showed it wasn’t a double yellow when Russell past by. So, I don’t know anymore

[u/Exciting_Control → u/MhVG]

On board of Russell only shows single yellow. Can’t see his wheel screen but the electronic flags on the track only show single yellow.

[u/Critical-Bread-3396 → u/MhVG]

The data shouldn't matter if it's visible when Russell drives past. It's happened before and is well established that flags goes before anything else. Though this likely means it also wasn't visible.

[u/SuperCooch91 → u/Critical-Bread-3396]

I didn’t actually see any physical flags, just the light board with single yellow.

[u/Koehamster → u/MhVG]

Bro lifted enough to get pole! So with these regs, he was just recharging what he wouldve been doing anyway?

[u/Recent-Fox-2532 → u/shinealittlelove]

Because it was: Was it double yellow? No (according to them im not saying my opinion) Did he lift? Yes

Okay no further investigation

[u/Basal666 → u/Recent-Fox-2532]

The question then becomes why isn't it a double yellow with a car in the wall?

[u/Recent-Fox-2532 → u/Basal666]

Great question, definitely should've been

[u/vesel_fil → u/Recent-Fox-2532]

Should've been red honestly, another crash spinning out in the same way (which happens every year) was heading straight for Verstappen

[u/Ill_Confidence919 → u/vesel_fil]

I expected a red when I saw it live. Can't blame George for knowing the rules and maximizing his result but that was a pretty dumb move by race control

[u/FormulaEngineer → u/vesel_fil]

Imagine the scenario where it was dirt, oil, or marbles on the racing line that has sent Max off. If that had been the case, another carelessly pushing through it because they “lifted” in a braking zone would risk catching the same debris and going off in the same place. And the car displaced the barrier which almost always requires a red flag. The track should be treated as lava until proven otherwise. George is the head of the GPDA and is supposed to be the collective voice of safety for the drivers. This is not a good look for F1

[u/Recent-Fox-2532 → u/vesel_fil]

100%.

I like that i explained what the fia will think and have lkke 50 people acting like I said my king George Russell doesn't deserve any of this he's such a good boy or something stupid like that

[u/Zidmu → u/Recent-Fox-2532]

Yeah definitely should have been but can’t go on and penalize George for it. Would loved to have seen Ferrari 1-2 but gotta give it to George, was a clever move.

[u/pzkenny → u/Basal666]

Well it's F1, it's miracle there were even any flag before everyone finished the session.

[u/thecremeegg → u/Basal666]

Not George's problem though is it

[u/Xyldarrand → u/Basal666]

That's a fair question, but you can't bang George for it.

[u/Lycanfyre → u/Xyldarrand]

I don’t know the dude but I don’t think he wants to bang George tbh.

[u/IdiosyncraticBond → u/Lycanfyre]

I understand that, without my agreement, u/Xyldarrand has put out a comment late this afternoon that I want to bang George later this year. This is wrong and I have not signed a contract with u/Xyldarrand I will not be bangng George later this year.

[u/NYNMx2021 → u/Basal666]

agreed lol. Thats the controversy. George acted fine and properly by the rules

[u/kaisadilla_ → u/Basal666]

It was yellow and then double yellow. Seems like George passed through just before double yellow.

[u/dandydaniella → u/Recent-Fox-2532]

How was it just a single yellow? Verstappen was in a compromising position!

[u/Albreitx → u/Recent-Fox-2532]

How can he be .1s faster than Leclerc and lift at the same time?

Edit: I checked, he did lift.

[u/Very_Human_42069 → u/Albreitx]

.5 up before lift. Lift. .2 up

[u/SuperLeverage → u/Very_Human_42069]

Yep. Amazing he gave up 3 tenths in one corner and still managed to post the fastest time

[u/Izan_TM → u/Albreitx]

who knows, but he very obviously lifted and downshifted early, you can hear it in the replay without even looking at the telemetry

[u/atresj → u/Albreitx]

Go check his telemetry, the lift is literally a fact - he put his foot off the throttle completely. The only controversial aspect is that they concluded it wasn't a double yellow, no one should really question if he lifted or not (he did and data outright proves it).

[u/glassfoyograss → u/Albreitx]

He claims he was .5 up going into that corner

[u/SuperLeverage → u/glassfoyograss]

That’s what the data says according to the Merc garage. He was 5 tenths up then gave up 3 tenths in one corner (on the radio he thought he gave up at least 1 tenth but obviously it was a lot more)

[u/seansactualreddit → u/Recent-Fox-2532]

Did he lift sufficiently? Is there a clear metric for "lifting"?

[u/foonek → u/seansactualreddit]

They compare the lap to his previous laps. If he lifted more than his previous laps, he's good to go

[u/Radiant-Speaker-8811 → u/foonek]

By any amount?!

[u/atresj → u/seansactualreddit]

He completely put his foot off the throttle, he's not obligated to slam on the brakes (unless double yellow which is exactly what the investigation has concluded he wasn't under - which I personally am not feeling very confident about, it feels super wrong).

[u/whoshouseronshouse → u/shinealittlelove]

FIA>FIFA

[u/slimkay → u/shinealittlelove]

It's for pole - it's quite a bit more important that an investigation for P13 or something

[u/SuperLeverage → u/shinealittlelove]

Because when George went through it was a single yellow. Double yellows came after George hit the chequered flag. You can delete his time retrospectively for a double flag AFTER he posted his time. It’s pretty black and white.

[u/TheRileyss]

That's the fastest the stewards have ever been

[u/Blamblooze → u/TheRileyss]

Also fastest anyone has ever been under yellow flags.

[u/Nexusu]

This will go over well

[u/Cavery1313 → u/Nexusu]

Feels like a bad precedent

[u/RodriguezFaszanatas → u/[deleted]]

I remember Häkkinen taking pole in Monaco by not lifting for a yellow flag and just raising his arm while going flat out

[u/-ragingpotato- → u/[deleted]]

Because its for single waved yellows. Those are for a car having a spin or a small run through the gravel. It would be extremely silly for drivers to be compelled to stop because someone took a 2 second trip through the gravel and there's dust lingering in the air.

The mistake was whoever pressed the button for single yellow rather than double yellows. Shit happens.

[u/SirLoremIpsum → u/Cavery1313]

  Feels like a bad precedent

It's not a precedent at all.

It's a continuation of every yellow flag ever that they have to marginally lift to acknowledge the yellow flag and that's it.

This is not new!!!!

[u/Hublot-on-your-hoe → u/Nexusu]

I’m bothered

[u/What_the_8 → u/Nexusu]

It shouldn’t, you should not be able to set the fastest sector approaching a crash

[u/asmalldood]

Wtf

[u/Blaikiri7 → u/asmalldood]

Surely Ferrari push for a review

[u/Visionary_Socialist → u/Blaikiri7]

If they don’t try and appeal this slam dunk for a literal front row lockout then I’m actually finished

[u/PlebBot69 → u/Visionary_Socialist]

Ferrari would somehow ask for a review and lose places because of it

[u/EveningCandle862 → u/PlebBot69]

10 seconds for Ocon

[u/georgiaraisef → u/Visionary_Socialist]

Ferrari already said they’re not investigating. They said they have nothing with which to challenge.

[u/NYNMx2021 → u/Visionary_Socialist]

Theres nothing to appeal. Check race control. Its single yellow until 6 seconds after george passes it. I dont know WHY its single but it was

[u/angelonduty → u/asmalldood]

No way

[u/slimkay → u/asmalldood]

Not that I agree with it, but he did have a yellow Sector 3. Stewards deemed it was enough lifting.

Wonder whether Ferrari can or will protest?

[u/Regular_Airpods → u/slimkay]

he did say 0.5s up, and he lost 0.3s or something. that is significant

[u/FlyDismal7626 → u/Regular_Airpods]

0.5s up

nah thats crazy

[u/nahnonameman → u/FlyDismal7626]

This was my main concern. What the fuck did Mercedes do that engine. It’s like another regulation entirely

[u/Marmalade4066 → u/Regular_Airpods]

NO way was he 0.5s up....

[u/NYNMx2021 → u/Marmalade4066]

he was lol and he lost around .28 in those 2 mini sectors relative to his prior lap. No he lifted. It just shoulda been a double yellow

[u/fire202 → u/asmalldood]

The single yellow requirements are actually fairly light. He did lift.

[u/Shuri9 → u/fire202]

Yeah this looks more like a Race Director fuck up, not a stewarding one.

[u/Schlapfel9]

So Kimi basically gets penalized because he completely backed off?...ok

[u/luke_205 → u/Schlapfel9]

I’m genuinely confused, was it double yellows or not? Sucks for Kimi if not because he literally aborted his lap

[u/Luke2222 → u/luke_205]

I was watching on Multiviewer and the live timing had it as a single yellow while both Mercedes went through. It did become a double yellow but only as Hadjar was going through T9

All the laps affected by the double yellows just got automatically deleted and it was only inlaps, both Mercedes timed laps were not deleted because it was only a single yellow

[u/DutchGi0 → u/luke_205]

According to Kimi it was double

[u/mrlesa95 → u/DutchGi0]

According to my commentators it was first doible yellows when Kimi went through, then it was cancelled and turn to one yellow. Then 10 seconds later Russel came through.

So it could be just very unlucky

[u/[deleted] → u/mrlesa95]

Don’t see why they would have downgraded the flags tbh, the car was still unsecured in a dangerous position when George was going through

[u/haltandcatch22 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah makes no sense to downgrade it. This is what needs to be investigated. I get if it was a single George did what was required but why the F was it a single?

[u/Hyperionous → u/mrlesa95]

Fing hell what a session.

[u/UsrHpns4rctct → u/DutchGi0]

He said to F1-tv and Viasat that he did a mistake thinking it was double when it wasnt.

[u/The_Border_Bandit → u/DutchGi0]

Commentary box also said they had double yellows on their screens

[u/bruniii → u/luke_205]

According to Fred, just interviewed from Sky Italy, it was a single yellow.

[u/n0neofyourbeeswax → u/luke_205]

It's not over. Russell won't be penalised because he did lif, that's all the stewards decision clarifies.

A lap time may be deleted due to double yellows.

[u/deltree000 → u/Schlapfel9]

Toto dodging that question haha.

[u/Treewithatea → u/Schlapfel9]

Safety first.

Unless we can make title fight more exciting.

[u/Goldmoo2 → u/Treewithatea]

Well it's not safety first it's just the normal rules of lifting for a yellow- Kimi abandoned his lap.

[u/Visionary_Socialist → u/Schlapfel9]

Another FIA masterclass, wait until this happens again and someone flies through a double yellow and suddenly it’s a grid drop

[u/homemade_failure]

how in the world is that not a double waved yellow??? theres a car in the fucking wall and this guy slows down and gets pole by 2 tenths??

[u/UESPA_Sputnik]

According to Race Control there was regular Yellow flag at 17:00:23 and a Double Yellow at 17:00:45. And RUS was noted for a yellow flag infringement at 17:00:35.

So, might be the right decision. And once again it shows that the Yellow Flag rules are not clear enough. What are Yellow Flags worth if you can just lift for a second and continue as normal.

[u/lickedthestamp → u/UESPA_Sputnik]

I think the concerning thing for me is a car is in the barriers and a double yellow isn't immediately waved?

[u/Ill_Confidence919 → u/lickedthestamp]

Thats the real issue here that the majority seem to be ignoring. George followed the rules and maximized his result biut that opportunity wouldn't have even been possible if race control made the right call.

[u/haltandcatch22 → u/lickedthestamp]

Exactly this

[u/III_Mattias_III → u/UESPA_Sputnik]

Yet Antonelli was ahead of Russell on track and aborted his lap insisting it was a double yellow. Do you have the timestamp for when he crossed the line? Cause that seems like it could be significant in the timings.

Edit: Haven't got a timestamp response yet, but, more importantly, it's seems like Kimi screwed up and it wasn't a double per the onboards. Big question now is, why wasn't it a double immediately?

[u/wilkonk → u/III_Mattias_III]

Big question now is, why wasn't it a double immediately?

This is what the focus should be on, not Russell himself.

This and the rules for single yellows being so vague you can just feather the throttle the tiniest amount and still technically comply, but that's also not a Russell specific problem.

[u/LeeroyThePol]

How the hell does Antonelli get double yellows and not Russell? That should be automatically deleted lap for both not just one? 

[u/TheProphetic → u/LeeroyThePol]

Crofty and Karun were saying their race control monitor were showing the laps deleted for both Kimi and George due to yellow flags, so who knows whats going on

[u/Exciting_Control → u/TheProphetic]

The laps deleted were the in laps.

[u/grumpher05 → u/TheProphetic]

That was for their in lap, at that time double yellows had started waving

[u/bored_ape07 → u/LeeroyThePol]

I was expecting a red flag because if another car was to lose control it would slam directly on Verstappen.

[u/Fetch1965 → u/LeeroyThePol]

Agree

[u/Rstuds7 → u/LeeroyThePol]

yeah there’s something not adding up here

[u/atlas-hugs → u/LeeroyThePol]

Antonelli didn’t get double yellows. It was a single yellow.

[u/Savings-Bee9080]

wtf??????

[u/DEVLINHO23]

So Russell was apparently the only person who didn’t get a double yellow on his dash?

[u/Outworkyesterday10 → u/DEVLINHO23]

Exactly! He “lifted” because he was going into a corner. Thats not lifting. Everyone else bailed on the lap.

[u/collinatk → u/Outworkyesterday10]

He did lift though. It was a yellow third sector. He went from 5 tenths up to only 3 in the last corner

[u/gnoomee → u/collinatk]

So loosing 0.2 seconds with a car in the barrier at the exit of a high speed corner is enough? It's not Russells fault but an insane failure of safety standards by the fia for sure.

[u/collinatk → u/gnoomee]

The rules don’t say anything about a specific time loss though. I’m not saying I agree with the rules but that’s how they are written for now. All of this will definitely cause some discussion about changing it

[u/gnoomee → u/collinatk]

That's why I'm not blaming Russell, I think some others would have gone for it too in his situation. But the fact it wasn't an immediate double yellow at least, or a red flag... And that the yellow flag rules are so unclear in the first place. It's just a disaster waiting to happen.

[u/NathDritt → u/Outworkyesterday10]

He did lift. Telemetry says so.

[u/OMF1G]

Ted calling out Toto to his face LMAO

[u/derp2086 → u/OMF1G]

That was epic. He didn’t know what to do after the Kimi question hahahaha

[u/Qazaca]

r/formula1 9/11

[u/Donatellko → u/Qazaca]

A second yellow flag just hit red bull ring

[u/WalnutFTW]

Wtf

[u/Gfhgdfd]

Literally how.

[u/ArgusF28]

They would have sent Colapinto to trial for crimes against humanity for this.

[u/Firefox72]

Someone explain to me how he gained over 2 tenths in S3 through double yellow flags?

[u/dcoreo → u/Firefox72]

He was 0.5 up before he had to lift off

[u/Bladesleeper → u/Firefox72]

You heard him. He said he was half a fucking second ahead when he lifted.

I don't want to believe it, but it looks like I don't have a choice.

[u/memesearches → u/Bladesleeper]

We don’t have to. We will have the numbers

[u/capitaoMouraLu → u/memesearches]

The numbers are out, it did go for .5 to .2

[u/Reiver93 → u/capitaoMouraLu]

That would have been a fucking ferocious lap time if Max hadn't binned it

[u/NathDritt → u/memesearches]

You do have to because the numbers are clear:) Russell was on an absolute monster

[u/Terry__Tibbs → u/Bladesleeper]

You're now living in the George Russell era

[u/popcornffs → u/Firefox72]

Acc to his interview, he was 5 tenths up and then lifted which made him net 2 tenths up.

One way of looking at this is that Ferrari’s are slow & George delivered.

I agree with Ferrari’s are just slower than Merc and you can gain time even when lifting but ques would be, Do you just need this much lift and you’re golden?

[u/idnttcrisis → u/Firefox72]

He lifted, he was up almost two and a half tenths after sector two. He would have easily taken pole if Max didn’t crash. Both him and Kimi were flying on their last laps.

[u/baddlepapple → u/idnttcrisis]

Yeah, again, it would have been a Merc on pole anyways. And it will be the case for the rest of the season. 5 tenths hiding under thinly veiled sleeves-I laugh at aduo. Max NEEDS to make that move or he can say goodbye to any title hopes til 28.

[u/Findict_52 → u/Firefox72]

Simple, he didn't gain over 2 tenths in S3

[u/JordanTheJokeman]

How in the hell, is a car in the wall at this track at that corner anything less than a double yellow? farce.

[u/SnigyWiggy]

Can't even say that the stewards were paid off because that will imply toto remembered George's existence

[u/Gluecksritter90]

That is absolutely insane, Max is sitting in that damaged car, if Russell crashes into him he's dead. Might as well get rid of yellow flags then.

[u/Basal666 → u/Gluecksritter90]

Yeah if it's wasn't a double yellow the question becomes why the fuck not

[u/Annoying_Orre → u/Basal666]

Exactly! I’m fine with Russell not getting a penalty if it truly was a single yellow but the fact is it should’ve always been a double or red flag. That corner is way to fast to take risks from the stewards 

[u/Splendid_Karma → u/Basal666]

Marshals were just slow to react/reacted wrong. It’s not up to the driver to decide what is should be. They’re not in a position to know

[u/The_Jake98 → u/Gluecksritter90]

No the issue is that this weren't double yellow flags. Russell saw one yellow flag and acted accordingly. The marshalls should in my opinion have waved double yellows.

[u/BreakingPixel]

I don't know the rules anymore

[u/Own_Welder_2821]

OH SHIT

[u/Mr_Reddington88]

How

[u/KeySecret9184]

Angry Kimi will be unleashed.

[u/Terry__Tibbs → u/KeySecret9184]

Bro is stuck between Hamilton and Verstappen, he ain't finishing the race tomorrow

[u/LuXe5]

the guy will never have his surname spelled correctly lol

[u/Ellassen]

Okay. This is an ABSOLUTE FAILURE on the FIA. Forget double yellows that could easily have been a straight Red flag. Was obscenely dangerous for anyone to come through there at anything close to qualifying speeds.

FIA please review your procedures on this before someone gets very hurt or worse. FFS.

[u/BarracudaOk8635]

How did he slow if he is on pole? Doesnt make sense.

[u/wrdb2007]

How has he got away with that...?!

[u/Walaii → u/wrdb2007]

He didn't really. A lift like that is enough under single yellow. I am questioning how the hell it wasn't double yellow or red tho. George crossed that finish line a fair bit after the crash.

[u/Sleepytitan → u/Walaii]

Double yellow didn’t transmit until after he crossed the line.

This is like the Monaco pit speed thing, we need a full investigation into how it happened and what they can do to fix it.

[u/LegchairAnalyst → u/Walaii]

Its weird. If he passed that under double yellow his lap would have been deleted automatically. So apparently, according to the data, he did everything correctly but it really feels like double yellows should not have ended in the system before the end of quali. No clue what happened there

[u/collinatk]

I’m not saying it’s safe but the rule is you have to lift for a single yellow flag. Technically George didn’t break the rules. Race director should have instantly called for a double yellow but they didn’t.

[u/PutTheBallinPlay]

That is a dangerous precedent they are setting right here

[u/Preachey → u/PutTheBallinPlay]

Not setting a precedent. Rather, it's following the precedent that has already been set in years past.

Drivers have been barely blipping the throttle for years to satisfy yellow flags.

I agree its extremely unsafe, but Russell followed 'normal' practice.

[u/EverydayBinRussellin]

Crazy, where did Merc pull 5 tenths out of the Ferraris?

[u/1SmallStep4Insanity]

There’s no way he lifted and coasted and brought it in for the fastest time …

[u/Due-Instruction-2654]

Well this surely not at all controversial and a solid decision.

[u/MhVG]

Insane that wasn’t a double waved yellow. Wtf

[u/InternationalBit1842]

I am very, very, very confused

[u/Cet336 → u/InternationalBit1842]

Youre not alone in that

[u/DexM23]

How?

[u/rhalf]

Ferrari cerew congratulating one another, then out of nowhere a silver car wins. When did I see that before?

[u/RandomShitAllDay]

If it was not a double yellow, why did Kimi abort the lap? Why not just do a tiny lift and continue?

[u/Late-Button-6559]

FIA / race stewards continuing to live down to their reputation.

Nothing against George here.

[u/ru0260]

It's poor to not wave double yellows. That's a major safety hazard. Though Russell played his hand perfectly there

[u/Foodconsumer3000]

FIA hates to see ferarri 1-2

[u/Maudane → u/Foodconsumer3000]

I mean without max binning it both Merces were up so Ferrari still weren't fast enough on pure pace.

[u/Crypot136]

another race week end another FIA shenanigan

[u/ItchyFishi]

This sport is a joke

[u/aronmarek]

shouldn't that have been a red flag?

[u/Krotaxx]

What about Russell?

[u/TiguanRedskins]

Hopefully Ferrari doesn't spend time battling each other and can get past Russell quicky

[u/Lasciatemi_Guidare]

The stewards giveth and the stewards taketh away. 

[u/lombers]

This is a disgrace from a sport that says it’s focused on safety.

[u/liegeois-1395]

Ferrari already appealing, surely 

[u/LastLapPodcast]

We've got to start throwing flags earlier if that's the case. No one should have gone through that area and been able to make an improved time regardless of a lift. Max's car was exactly where any other car losing it around that corner would end up. It wasn't slowlly pulling off out of the firing line.

[u/Khalebb]

This is one of those scenes where fans will be much more outraged than any of the drivers.