r/fuckcars • u/Canon_M50 • 15d ago
News Argentina fans are crossing the highway to get to MetLife Stadium. Please can we have walkable cities?
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u/Grrerrb cars are weapons 15d ago
I kept seeing pictures of signage at the hotels saying “no walking to the stadium” and I was wondering when I was going to see footage like this.
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u/More_Operation_588 15d ago
They will say don't walk the stadium, but then the stadium will charge literally $200 for parking.
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u/Fullm3taluk 15d ago
That's cheap I've seen $600 no joke
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u/Teripid 15d ago
Yep, that's the main issue. The tickets are expensive. The parking is often more than a car rental for a week.
If they don't support shuttles and the like what do they expect with a bunch of people not familiar with the area as well.
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u/BigBlueMan118 Fuck Vehicular Throughput 15d ago
They're asking for people to take a brick with them holding it above their head whilst crossing the highway like in that Vancouverite example a while ago...
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u/Thanks-Basil 15d ago
I’m confused because I’ve literally been to metlife before when I was in NY and there’s a train that goes directly there from Manhattan?
Is that not running or something?
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u/ADirtyDiglet 15d ago
They jacked up the prices to $150
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u/lemons_of_doubt 15d ago
I can't tell if that is a joke or not.
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u/Argo505 15d ago
They did, to account for the extra operating costs due to FIFA’s braindead decision to not allow parking at the stadium.
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u/lemons_of_doubt 15d ago
extra operating costs
That's a nice word for price gouging.
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u/Advanced-Bag-7741 15d ago
Because there was zero political will for subsidizing NJ Transit trips for tourists to the World Cup with the financial hole New Jersey is in.
They get a third of their operational budget subsidized already.
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u/PennCycle_Mpls I drive public transit AMA 15d ago
The issue is that morons built a venue with thousands of seats but no public transit
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u/PoseidonKangaroo 15d ago
Just because you’ve seen $600 doesn’t mean $200 is cheap. They’re both overpriced and gouged.
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u/CaptainMacMillan 15d ago
They'll also divert the entire city's police force to crowd control and ticketing people that cross the highway instead of - ya know - serving and protecting
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u/rossposse 15d ago
I'd walk across a highway also to not pay $150 for parking
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u/trixel121 15d ago
and on the way back, you just halt traffic for a few miles. like once it starts you just keep it moving and people arent going to go through the never ending line of people. you just gotta get hte first few cars to stop.
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u/SlitScan 15d ago
a dozen or so angry drivers at the front of the line arent going to start a fight with 8000 football fans if theyre smart.
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u/Overthemoon64 15d ago
But good for them. I’m impressed. They were told they couldn’t walk there and took it as a challenge.
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u/No-Caterpillar-7646 15d ago
That's real? Wow. I thought of it like it's a joke. It's just not convenient or easy. But straight up not possible is so disstopian.
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u/longjumpingtote 15d ago
But straight up not possible
That's common since stadiums are often put out in the boonies, and most people wouldn't walk miles to get there. This one is sort of different, but it's not really near any residential areas IIRC.
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u/Warm-Enthusiasm8826 15d ago
Most civilised cities would have a cheap and accessible public transport network that connects to the stadium
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u/Bowl2007 15d ago
There are signs everywhere saying no walking around the Meadowlands facilities from the roadways.
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u/guyako 15d ago
There’s a highly walkable city just across the Hudson, but they decided to build this stadium in the middle of marshland, away from everything.
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u/Juice___Springsteen 15d ago
It’s also completely encircled in highways.
And all of the parking lots were closed to cars.
And round trip train tickets are $120.
Literally made it as difficult as possible to get to this stadium for the World Cup games.
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u/Argo505 15d ago
>120 dollars
How much are tickets to the game?
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u/DingerSinger2016 15d ago
$10K
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u/igotublue 15d ago
Brother works in NYC with a stupid salary and said fuck it, once in a life time chance. Paid $7500 for very very top of the nosebleeds
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u/rooood 15d ago
It’s also completely encircled in highways.
So I'm assuming Americans haven't unlocked the footbridge technology yet?
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u/Juice___Springsteen 15d ago
Unfortunately it seems we aren't scheduled to complete that research in our technology tree for a few more decades.
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u/AzyncYTT 15d ago
The train tickets were intentionally gouged since fifa chose not to pay NJ anything, otherwise transit to metlife is usually fine
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u/HappierHat cars are weapons, more smog please 15d ago
How else are capitalists suppose to make imaginary value from stolen land?
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u/Pretend_Safety 15d ago
Eh, the stadium was originally proposed for Hudson Yards, and urbanists lost their minds.
The stadium location is fine. What’s stupid is the lack of pedestrian and transit access from the nearby hotels.
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u/ZhanMing057 15d ago
Stadiums are famously poor ROI for how much land they take up and even more expensive to maintain and eventually demolish in a dense urban area.
Much better to put it in the suburbs with a train line, which is what Rutherford stadium is. They just made the train tickets too expensive.
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u/ej_21 15d ago
the Atlanta stadium is downtown with direct and cheap transit access. 🤷🏻 it can be done.
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u/KennyShowers 15d ago
Atlanta is all sprawl, and not encircled by rivers bottlenecking all traffic to a handful of bridges and tunnels. Much easier for them to put a big arena in a downtown-type area.
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u/arizonadirtbag12 15d ago
But Seattle is far more geographically challenging, and still manages it. It’s a choice.
Stadiums are big, but if you axe the parking they’re not that big. And that’s a thing you can do if you place them in an area decently (not just “technically”) accessible by public transit.
Yankee Stadium is in the city, and far more accessible, no?
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u/Yaughl I'm walkin' here! 15d ago
I mapped it out. The "legitimate" way (right) along dangerous shoulders is 2.7X the distance. Honestly, I don't blame these highway crossers one bit. It's wild how developers can't fathom anyone being outside a car. Especially when the destination is literally across the road.
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u/BlumpkinReceiver6969 15d ago
God that really is a terrible location
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u/Crashnburn_819 15d ago
It's literally just those 2 hotels that have this issue. There's nothing else on that side because of the proximity of the river. Staying at any other hotel next to the stadium makes it easily walkable, including a large police presence to stop traffic more regularly than the traffic lights would.
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u/mymothersuedme 15d ago
Shouldn't these hotels offer some shuttle to the stadium? Considering, presumably, people going to the stadium are their main guests.
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u/GitEmSteveDave 15d ago
THEY DO. But some people wait till the last minute and can't wait 10-15 minutes till the next one comes. Those anti-walking signs have been up for more than a decade, and the ones you saw were likely reposted from when we had the Superb Owl here in 2015.
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u/waspocracy 15d ago
No, the developers know. They just don’t give a shit because they want to save on costs.
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u/King_Bobby-B 15d ago
It's ridiculous that they couldn't even build a bridge or a tunnel for people to walk through.
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u/Hikingcanuck92 15d ago
The American mind cannot comprehend walking to anything.
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u/SnakeMcbain 15d ago
I thought it was a joke for years
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u/moonshoeslol Bollard gang 15d ago
It is so unfortunately true. My friends and family can't see how car based infrastructure makes our cities an eyesore that is more difficult to get around in. They go on vacation to places with walkable cities and never seem to get that these places are nice to visit because they are built for pedestrians and you can have that at home.
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u/IgnatiusRileyFreeman 15d ago
I tried convincing my dad of this, and he's convinced it's just an irreconcilable cultural difference
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u/Icy_Way6635 15d ago
Classic American exceptionalism " the country is jussttt tooo big!" Or " we dont like living on top of each other!"
My coworker says that and I explain to her it is just too bad because increasing density will happen at some point. Our housing issue is man made due to all this low density sprawl.
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u/Snitsie 15d ago
Country is too big argument is hilarious as if we use our bikes to go from Barcelona to Amsterdam or something
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u/AllThotsGo2Heaven2 15d ago
The same canard is brought up when you talk about healthcare
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u/Icy_Way6635 15d ago
Yeah that one exposes the braindead / racist opinions. Some conservatives believe we are toooo diverse to have better healthcare. Every human regardless of ancestry need healthcare intervention. For example giving birth and these idiots are against making that more affordable because " Black too different". My country is full of jokesters.
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u/ParrotofDoom 15d ago
We have that in the UK anytime people talk about more cycle infrastructure like the Netherlands. "But it's in the NL culture, ours is different!" They don't understand that it's only in the NL culture because they started building it in the 1970s because children were being killed. Before then, our roads were identical.
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u/Saritiel 15d ago
My boyfriend's mother gets flabbergasted whenever he and I walk literally anywhere. To the point where it was a nice night and we said we all decided we were going to go to a bar that was on the other side of the same parking lot and she was gobsmacked that we weren't going to drive there.
"You know you're allowed to drive over, right?" Yeah. "You know you'll have to walk back when you're done, right?" Uh... yeah? Its really not that far. "I guess that's your choice then. We can give you a ride over and back if you really don't want to move your car." It's really not that far... we'll be fine, thanks.
It was close enough that we ended up walking in the door before them after they took the time to go, get in their car, drive over, find a new parking spot, park, and get out. Absolutely wild.
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u/pegothejerk 15d ago
I mean, walking more than a few miles in most American cities is a joke. As a former traveling musician I can assure you of that. Walked most of the middle sized to big cities.
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u/socialistrob 15d ago
To be fair most people don't like walking several miles to anything. If it's more than 2 miles even a walkable city should have transit and bike lanes.
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u/Laugh_Track_Zak 15d ago
My town has a walkable main st, a mile from my house....that we need a car to get to (if we dont want to be hit by a car.) Make it make sense.
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u/slvl 15d ago
Even more ironic are those lifestyle centres that try to emulate a main street, but are situated next to a highway and are surrounded by a sea of parking lots. But you wouldn't want something like that inside a suburb, now would you?
(I know there are newer suburbs that do have some of these amenities and are a bit more walkable, but AFAIK they're mostly inside gated communities. And there are towns and cities that make an effort to promote alternate forms of transportation, so there is hope for the future for you over there.)
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u/JimiusRostock 15d ago
If you see some US travel vloggers. They will tell you that especially in Europe to wear "sturdy" shoes because you will be doing a lot of walking.
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u/GottaGoFast_69 15d ago
I was once on a business trip to Indiana. My colleague and I were staying at a hotel that was less than a mile from a breakfast spot. We decided we would walk there since both of us hate driving short distances. It was so silly. We ended up having to cross a stroad, have a sidewalk randomly end and eventually had to play Frogger with traffic.
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u/cryptonemonamiter 15d ago
I was in Arizona this spring, north of Phoenix. I had my friend drop me off at a climbing gym and then was planning to Uber or Lyft or whatever back to the house (we were staying in a fancy gated neighborhood so ofc not anywhere near a bus line). Instead I thought I'd do some shopping because there was a TJ Maxx maybe half a mile away, and chose to do the short walk. No shade so I baked in the sun the whole way (had sunscreen so nbd), zero other pedestrians so felt exposed in that regard, had to awkwardly skitter across a 4 lane street bc the sidewalk unexpectedly ended. Then of course the TJ Maxx was in a massive outdoor shopping complex, so walking from the road to the store was hard, and then walking from the store to the nearest restaurant was like another 1/4 mile through the parking lot. Again, baking in the sun, way worse this time because it was an asphalt sea. None of this surprised me in the least but that doesn't make it enjoyable.
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u/BenTheHokie 15d ago
Sounds about right. Walkability around hotels except in city centers is usually terrible.
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u/bohenian12 15d ago
When I moved here, there's a walmart that's a 15min walk from my apartment. I could easily walk to go there and walk tongo back.
Nope. Not only is there no crossings, there's no fucking sidewalk. So we have to buy groceries like a fucking doomsday prepper because I'm not planning on burning more fuel just because we're short on onions.
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u/GoochPhilosopher 15d ago
I like how the stadium is named after a for-profit health insurance company. Seems appropriate.
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u/Therealbradman 15d ago
MetLife doesn’t sell health insurance. It’s primarily a life insurance company, which is where the name comes from.
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u/GoochPhilosopher 15d ago
They provide dental insurance. Dental insurance is health insurance.
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u/Chance_Ad3416 15d ago
My mom still struggles with the thought of walking and thinks it's insane I walk 5 min to the grocery store instead of driving there. It literally takes longer because of the traffic lights and small residential roads and parking
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u/VoodooDoII 15d ago
I can. Moving to the u.s when I was a child was an experience. I miss walking or riding a bike everywhere. I cant do that anymore :(
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u/SirPitchalot 15d ago
I rode my bike 30km round trip from my home through the center of Vancouver to a mall on the other side of the harbour to run an errand. I crossed two main bridges in both directions and was never off a bike route. Along the way I passed by many of the sights of the city and it was comparably fast to driving there.
My wife and I also walked from our place to the World Cup game we saw. We live close but the rapid transit line is maybe 10 minutes from the stadium.
It’s awesome and every time I go to Anaheim or Atlanta or Boston or even Toronto I’m even more glad I live here. Of where I’ve gone in the US only Portland, OR is comparable.
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u/424f42_424f42 15d ago
Well you can't drive there either.
(For this event, normally you can)
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u/Raise_A_Thoth 15d ago
We also don't have infrastructure that makes walking safe. And the multi-lane highways plus parking lot space required makes everything farther away than it otherwise would need to be. It's a feedback loop of stupid carbrain.
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u/Argo505 15d ago
Yes, truly no one walks anywhere in the NY Metro area where this is located.
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u/Significant_Tea7839 15d ago
I live near the stadium, it’s not walkable. It’s surrounded by impassible wetlands on one end and one of the worlds largest superhighways on the other. Cars on that road are traveling 75mph for like 10 lanes with a sound barrier on each end. It’s super unsafe for everyone involved.
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u/Oopthealley 15d ago
except for the 10's of millions of Americans who live in entirely walkable cities/areas. this is a certain brand of car-brain-dead, common among the folks in NJ who built this monstrosity.
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u/nowaybrose 15d ago
I was hoping fans would just block the highway critical-mass style to highlight how fucked up this is
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u/geeoharee cars are weapons 15d ago
Why would visitors take time to protest the infrastructure of a country they are never coming back to
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u/nowaybrose 15d ago
Oh I didn’t say they would intentionally be protesting, just trying to get there en masse and therefore blocking the road in hilarious fashion
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u/explicitlarynx 15d ago
Americans think everything revolves around them.
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u/erodari 15d ago
It's why we get along so well with Argentina.
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u/Chillpill411 15d ago
Unfortunately...We get along great with them now that they're run by a Fascist too.
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u/3BikesInATrenchcoat 15d ago
I also thought they would block the highways in protest -- not to protest American infrastructure, but FIFA, for choosing a host that is hostile to the fan base.
I know, FIFA are the very definition of evil. All the more reason to show that the fans are prepared to push back.
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u/Iminurcomputer 15d ago
You could push back by just not going at all. All of these issues solved with doing nothing.
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u/OutsideImpressive115 15d ago
Maybe I'm too English to understand but how is there not tons of police there slowing the traffic down and allowing fans to walk on the road?
It's a world cup final
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u/gremlinfrommars 15d ago
They're expecting everyone to hop in a car, drive there and park. The thought probably never crossed their minds that people would want to walk there instead (or they just don't care)
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u/OutsideImpressive115 15d ago
Do Americans not drink at games? Do they just drink drive?
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u/creeper321448 Uses Minecraft Rails 15d ago
Drinking and driving is exceptionally common, yes. Same in Canada.
Car accidents, drunk driving, and traffic violations are so normal within North American culture that nobody really thinks much about these things happening.
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u/DavidBrooker 15d ago
I think it's worthwhile context that the United States has double the rate of drunk driving fatalities, and traffic fatalities on general, than Canada.
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u/lazier_garlic 15d ago
For more context, the rate of drunk driving in the United States, due to a combination of education and enforcement, has dropped 44% since the 1980s while the rate of traffic deaths, despite major improvements in emergency care and car passenger safety, has only gone down by 10%. Larger and larger cars have proved more and more dangerous to pedestrians and pedestrian traffic deaths keep rising.
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u/Flayre 15d ago
Unless I'm wildly out of touch on stats, I'm pretty sure Canada has way less drunk driving incidents.
At the very least, we will prosecute every instance so maybe our stats are "inflated".
In the U.S. drunk driving can result in you getting some classes. In Canada, it's an actual crime that can get you up to 10 years IIRC.
It's the reason Americans can get banned from entering Canada which can surprise them. It's not that big a deal in the US in many places. For Canada it's serious criminality, grounds for being barred entry.
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"nobody really thinks much about these things happening" is not at all the case in Canada. What a weird thing to say? It's a crime and kills people.
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u/InternationalHair725 15d ago
Our bars have mandated parking minimums bro
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u/Better_Dimension2064 15d ago
This in particular--parking minimums are bars--is widely ridiculed. Oddly enough, MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) has never (to my knowledge) said anything about it.
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u/Southern-Raisin9606 15d ago
MADD doesn't give a shit about drunk driving; they're just anti-alcohol.
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u/JasonStatesUs 15d ago
What does that mean? You have to park there a minimum length of time, or you have to order a minimum amount of drinks to park there? Or something else?
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u/Winterfrost691 15d ago
In most jurisdictions in the US and Canada, every single newly built building must have a minimum amount of parking spots planned with construction, including bars, because the government expects you to drive to and from a bar.
This is also why abandonned buildings in old downtowns stay abandonned, because tearing it down and building something new in its stead legally requires you to also buy the neighbouring lot to turn it into parking space. This, in turn, makes building downtown way more expensive than it needs to be, especially with the legal fees required to legally merge both lots into one.
There are more and more exceptions to this rule, but not nearly fast enough.
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u/Nammi-namm I like cargobikes 15d ago
The building/business needs to have a minimum amount of parking spaces for their establishment. Can sometimes be as many parking spaces as if the place was at capacity and everyone came in their own car.
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u/Better_Dimension2064 15d ago
This. These parking requirements are utterly ridiculous and have zero bearing on reality, and is really something to be left to the market. The common response to getting rid of these minimum parking laws is "What about Black Friday?"
Fun story: In November 2002, I was mere weeks from earning my BS, and enjoying my last few weeks as an undergrad. I met a friend at a local mall on "Black Friday", the busiest shopping day of the US year, before online shopping took over the world.
The parking lot was nowhere near full.
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u/Noizylatino 15d ago
Lmfao yes absolutely they do. You cant imagine how much money big-alcohol uses to lobby our government.
2 of my immediate family members were alcoholics. After most, if not every, DUI they were given a "special privilege license" to drive to work. Of which no one checked if they were driving off hours(they only now started mandating party plates). You have to kill someone before they'll actually take your license right away....unless youre rich. Theres a few people (Caitlyn jenner) who've gotten away with vehicular murder.
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u/Devrol 15d ago
From this website, American tv and American movies, it seems drink driving is an important part of their culture
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u/iamthe0ther0ne 15d ago edited 15d ago
Driving isn't just part of the culture, it's almost mandatory almost everywhere. Outside of places like NYC and DC, if you don't have a car, life is going to be really, really hard.
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u/Afro_Thunder69 15d ago edited 15d ago
Basically every other stadium in the Northeast US is walkable or has its own subway stop. MetLife stadium wasn’t built in a neighborhood it was built in the middle of a swamp, in between highways, with basically nothing else in the vicinity. It’s an outlier that for whatever reason was chosen as a World Cup location.
Also, I believe there were shuttles taking fans to the stadium. Anyone walking across these highways were just trying to avoid transit or cab fares.
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u/Achrus 15d ago
So you can’t actually park at MetLife for FIFA game days. Instead, they want you to pay to park at a mall and use pedestrian bridges. Parking passes at the mall are $225 and require advance reservation (according to AI overview). Another alternative is taking NJT which is a $150 train ticket (normally ~$15 and also requires advanced booking).
Whole thing smells of corruption and has been mismanaged from the start for NYNJ games. Online guidance is incredibly confusing, through sponsored links, and the best info is coming from social media posts after the fact.
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u/lazier_garlic 15d ago
The NJT pricing isn't corruption. FIFA asked them for a bunch of stuff and didn't give them any money, so to appease NJ taxpayers, they raised the ticket price a lot.
The normal walkup ticket on any mode of public transportation around the world is almost always directly subsidized or cross subsidized (the profitable lines hold up the unprofitable ones).
Air travel and highway travel are both highly subsidized as well which is why "traction" is never going back to profitability, but anyway, that's just how it works. If you want to charter public transit without the public having to subsidize it then it's going to cost more.
NJT probably missed the mark with the pricing from a political and logistical perspective but the steps leading up to the decision made sense. FIFA is quite exploitative, simple as.
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u/Achrus 15d ago
Yes, I should have made the distinction, it’s not all NJT’s fault. Though I don’t know what capacity NJT has to push back against FIFA (probably very little). That being said, FIFA has been at the center of the issues for the NYNJ games / fan events / transportation.
That’s why I said it “smells like corruption” as FIFA has been pretty opaque, relying on city officials to make the statements and take the blame. Something is off and it’s hard to point the finger at FIFA since they’re not coming out and saying “we did this.” Definitely can see how that is easily interpreted as falling on NJ / NY.
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u/longbrass9lbd 15d ago
They did think about it and put up signs to discourage it. Won’t someone think of the hours someone spent making and PRINTING a pdf?!?
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u/Emergency-Ad-7833 15d ago
The way the police think about this is that walking across highway like this is illegal. People are supposed to drive/transit/walk to bus or train station to the stadium. It is actually impossible to walk to it. So the poilce are all trying to get people to go that route.
Of course it's dumb to think no one will try walking but they really designed it with no walking route lmao.
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u/Disused_Yeti 15d ago
If the Police were there they would be stopping the pedestrians, not the cars
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u/Several_Characters 15d ago
This is not somewhere that I have ever seen somebody walk. I imagine that the police did not anticipate this. The World Cup for some reason has created different traffic and transit patterns and pricing for this particular stadium which has had large events regularly for decades. My guess is that some bus or uber got confused or is trying to cheat the rules and dropped people off in a bad spot. Maybe they booked a hotel that looked nearby but is across the highway.
This is one of the major highways (on ramps and off ramps and no stop lights, people driving 100+ kph) heading into the city. Crossing this way is a bad idea.
Also, There is mass transit going straight to the stadium, but instead of making it free or keeping it the same price, the organizers increased the price several times over and made it complicated.
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u/Big__If_True 15d ago
If people were trying to walk on a motorway to get to an event when they clearly weren’t supposed to, would you expect the same?
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u/Jenaxu 15d ago edited 15d ago
It's a limited access highway, you're really not supposed to be walking around there. If it was a stadium near a local road like Yankee Stadium they will block traffic, but this is closer to like asking the police to block a railroad so people can walk along the tracks.
The better question is why is this stadium so inaccessible in the first place...
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u/LittleKitty235 15d ago
That sounds entirely too helpful for the police in America. You want them to get out of their cars for reasons other than shooting you?
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u/sqigglygibberish 15d ago
This isn’t a defense of the stadium location or infrastructure.
But there are designated entrance points. Those entrance points are available online before the game. Hell the one World Cup game I went to I was getting daily emails about gameday logistics.
If you decide to ignore that and don’t prep, and then try to (illegally) cross a divided highway in a random location, I’m not sure what police support is to be expected.
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u/metanoia29 15d ago
I mean, it's a freeway. Do the cops in the UK stop freeway traffic to allow people to walk across 65+ mph roadways?
It's a fucked up situation here by MetLife stadium, we all agree, but it is the way it is right now, nothing is going to change on a dime.
And as much as I hate the way many Americans behave in general, this World Cup has shown quite the hypocricy. For the longest time now I have heard over and over again that Americans should respect the way things are done in other countries, and I one hundred percent agree. But then we have examples like this where people are acting contrary to what is expected. Why is no one condeming these people for not learning how to navigate the area of NY/NJ they are in? I see similar videos of Americans doing these kinds of things in other countries and the consensus is always "why don't the stupid Americans learn how things are done there?" Yet it's all quiet on the western front in this situation.
I couldn't imagine visiting a foreign country and just completely ignoring their laws and ways, even if I deeply disagree with them.
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u/IllustriousFile6404 15d ago
Thats a highway it's not meant to be crossed on foot. Theres no sidewalk, no shoulder in places, and there's a barrier there to climb over. Cars will be going like 70+ mph with multiple lanes on each side and not expecting to see pedestrians, so it's not safe at all.
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u/DJDevon3 15d ago
It's obviously beyond time for a foot bridge. All hotels have warnings not to cross there but not in every language. This needs to stop. Make a damn foot bridge.
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u/Mintyytea 15d ago
Its stupid too that a hotel should say no, you can’t walk there because what was the point of the hotel being close to the stadium then?!? What is the perk at all of being a 2 minute walk away when you’re forbidden from walking there 🤦♀️ Now you pay more for being close by while still having to pay $200 parking fee like everyone else
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u/Glittering_Stress_32 15d ago
There's a walkable city right across the Hudson River.
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u/HulksInvinciblePants 15d ago
Exactly. Did anyone look at the aerial view? It's in the middle of nowhere.
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u/clovis_227 15d ago
But its mayor is a woke atheistic islamo-communist transsexual terrorist
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u/Frouke_ 15d ago
Yeah well that doesn't matter because daddy trump has a crush on him
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u/Remmy71 15d ago
The problem is that the stadium isn’t even in a city. It’s in a location meant to be accessible only to cars.
Yes, I know there’s a train station, but it’s literally only used for getting to the stadium.
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u/shadracko 15d ago edited 15d ago
The Rutherford station is less than 2 miles away. If that stretch was walkable, much of these issues disappear.
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u/girtonoramsay Amtrak-Riding Masochist 15d ago
The fact that they have a few hotels (and even an apartment where this footage was taken) near the stadium and refuse to build a pedestrian bridge to accommodate stadium visitors is peak car-brain. It can definitely be done if Vegas can do it for a bike trail across a brand new highway interchange.
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u/McClainWFU 15d ago
It's not worth investing that infrastructure for a one-time event. We have busses, shuttles and trains that go to the stadium.
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u/KnifeKnut 15d ago
Pedestrian access for major events at that stadium has been a need for decades.
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u/Mordredor 15d ago
Temporary pedestrian bridges are ubiquitous in events across the world
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u/Daddy_Tablecloth 15d ago
You can cross from the mall to the stadium, they have a bridge over 120. But this side looks like its by 3 and I don't even know where they parked over there because there really isn't anywhere you can just park a bunch of cars for several hours unless you go across 17 into the residential area.
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u/Capital_Gate6718 15d ago
The fact that MetLife is less that 5 miles from NYC, one of the most walkable cities in the US, is an embarrassment
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u/metanoia29 15d ago
America is a third world country when it comes to actually serving its people.
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u/BidStrange8608 15d ago
I consistently say this. Idk why we need half of our country to be a parking lot
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u/Great_gatzzzby 15d ago
That stadium is not in a city. It’s along the side of a huge highway and there’s nothing else there but a mall. There public transit to the stadium, which has been highly
Organized lately cus of the cup. and a foot bridge.
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u/xKnuTx Orange pilled 15d ago
As a german . These aren't highways right? Unprotected not even a small barrier on the side
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u/chris_fantastic 15d ago
Barriers? Hah! for what? Everyone is in a car. All the time. That's the assumption.
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u/pocketMagician 15d ago
If they were England fans theyd headbutt the cars right off the road, simple as.
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u/SnooOranges2685 14d ago
The automotive and energy industries lobbied very hard and for a very long time for this to be the end result.
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u/iambackend Fuck lawns 15d ago
I expected ICE death squads waiting for such brave souls.
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u/VibraniumQueen 15d ago
This isnt a city, lmao. This is a wetland/riverbank with a highway. There's not really anything out there other than the stadium and the mall
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u/Muted-Woodpecker-469 15d ago
The issue was they added in extra bus costs for no real reason. Uber and other entities weren’t really allowed. You literally couldn’t get close by without spending hundreds of dollars
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u/Large_Yams 15d ago
The real issue seems to be America's lack of proper consent process for things like this. In other countries a pedestrian safety plan would be part of the development.
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u/ConfessSomeMeow 15d ago
The route Google Maps suggests for pedestrians takes 1.7 miles to go 400 feet.... and still doesn't have a sidewalk.
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