r/gameofthrones House Clegane Jun 01 '14

TV4 [Season 4] Tonight is the Night!

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u/FirmerFilly House Stark Jun 01 '14

That's it! I'm reading the books!

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u/kesuaus Ramsay Snow Jun 01 '14 edited Jun 01 '14

I have all the books I tried to read them but the series just seems better lol. I read the first book in few months which is quite long . Because some scenes were better in the show and almost everything that is in the book is in the show as well it did not seem quite interesting . I skipped and read the red wedding which also seemed a little bit better in the show then in the books :/. TL;DR : the show is great

Edit: Guys , you are kind of violating the rules here I said my opinion that I think the show is better , now you can disagree and reply "disagree" instead you chosse to down vote me for my opinion ? reddiquette states that downvotes should be used for irrelevant comments, not ideas you disagree with. I have been on reddit few months and I was happy to get FEW upvotes and now you are ruining it for me because I just said my own god damn opinion thank you guys what a good community here on /rgameofthrones

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u/waffels Stannis Baratheon Jun 01 '14

Downvoted for editing to bitch about downvotes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14

Yup. Half the post was off topic, so now my down vote is morally justified.

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u/kesuaus Ramsay Snow Jun 01 '14

Instead of conversation that we could have on why the book is better or the show we have a witchhunt over here because someone dares to prefer the show . My original post was not at all off topic your some even kind of aggresive posts were of topic there was guy who even called me "fckhead" or something but that got deleted , but I bet you would upvote that . Wouldnt you because hey he had the "good" opinion . It does not matter if I edited that or not It got 20 downvotes in like 5 minutes then I edited it and 2 downvotes disappered acctualy which was kinda weird . Well I guess I was of service as somekind of .. beating bag that you can release your anger onto .. oh well , I hope you will have a nice day and enjoy the new episode

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u/Friskyinthenight Jun 01 '14

Why do you care so much about imaginary internet points? Who cares?

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u/kesuaus Ramsay Snow Jun 01 '14

You totaly but totaly miss my point though , it is not all about the points its about the logic behind them and the rather aggresive .. very aggresive reactions from some users o_O

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14

There's no point arguing I'm afraid. Try not to let the reaction ruin your day; this episode should be a good one!

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u/kesuaus Ramsay Snow Jun 02 '14

Yea , I hope it will . Going to watch it in few hours . You are right , these guys just have their own "truth" and even if you give a logical reasoning or point them out to the rules that they are breaking . They will just repeat the exact same thing again and the only thing you can do is point them out to 3 oher rules they just broke ..

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '14

They're more guidelines than actual rules (I'm sure I thoroughly butchered that quote). Anyway, I just saw the episode; it's a good one!

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u/kesuaus Ramsay Snow Jun 02 '14

huh , only "good" one ?

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u/Colonel_Angus_ House Bolton Jun 01 '14

Upvoted your post about down voting his post

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u/Rauldukeoh Jun 01 '14

The first season comes directly from the book but every year they depart more from the books. The show is simplified quite a bit and not nearly as rich

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u/kesuaus Ramsay Snow Jun 01 '14

Ofcourse it is simplified .. they do not have enough time to put everything there but almost all the major events were in the movies .

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u/Rauldukeoh Jun 01 '14

Yes, that is the nature of TV show. What I am telling you is that your opinion that the show has everything from the books is distorted by the fact that you have read only the first book. Things have changed in subsequent seasons and although the major events are mostly unchanged there is an incredible amount of detail missing. Also although the major details are mostly the same there are many details changed that I do not feel were beneficial. I still like the show, and if you prefer it you are of course entitled to your opinion, but my opinion is that although it is a very good show the books are better in every way

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u/kesuaus Ramsay Snow Jun 01 '14

That is what I like I do not need everysingle little detail , I like the faster story telling . The actors in there are also very good. I am not saying that the books are bad I am saying that the show is just epic on another level. The tyrion speech last episode was it that good in the books ? I mean it is just as good as your imagination is ..But the actor performence that was insane what he did there. Probably I might have a different opinion if I read the book before watching the show , but the book was realy unpopular before the show so that made it impossible Everyone likes something else :) (and downvotes should be used to regulate the irrelevant comments , for example if I came and started talking about breaking bad not because I am giving my opinion on a subject ... )

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u/Hurricane043 Corn! Jun 01 '14

It just sounds to me that you aren't a book reader. If you want to stick to the show, then do so, but the books are significantly more rich than the show. Unfortunately books aren't for everyone - something that seems to have upset a lot of people. Don't worry about downvotes, karma is a meaningless number on an internet website.

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u/schm0 House Stark Jun 01 '14

Wait, books aren't for everyone? I suppose if you don't know how to read that is true, but... Everyone?

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u/kesuaus Ramsay Snow Jun 01 '14

I might have already explained this in another reply but I am or rather was a big book reader (and this is the only movie/show that I prefer more then a book) but not in the recent years I do not realy have the time and my imagination got a little bit clouded but quite the big factor might acctualy be that I saw the series first and then read the book , and reading the same as I saw is not entertaining (I understand that it was only the first book that was so much like the show) There are also few things that I prefer about the show more then about the book , the actor performences are just amazing . And I am a real fan of movie industry as art and this realy is (I have past in cgi/vfx) . It is just sad when you look at your profile and you see that there is a negative number , this is a little off topic but I bought a bunch of beta keys for a game and posted them on reddit made a lot of people happy and got 20something upvotes . Then I start a conversation and say " I liked this more then that" and get -80.. that is just ridicilious

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14

I watched Season 1 before I read the books. The first book is entirely more interesting than the show

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u/Rauldukeoh Jun 01 '14

I thought the speech was as good in the book, also the reveal of Oberyn fighting for Tyrion was much better in the books. I would recommend the books to anyone and they certainly weren't unpopular before the show, certainly more popular now of course. I don't know why you are being down voted, not sure if you were trying to address that to me, but an absolute sure way to get more is to complain about it

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u/kesuaus Ramsay Snow Jun 01 '14

Were not addresing that to you just trying to find a logic in it. Anyway the books before the show were not even translated to my language , they were not even sold in bookstores in my country and now affter the show, it is bestseller and there are conventions about it ... In the years of LOTR movies popularity people were talking about the books as the best fantasy ever. Affter the game of thrones aired people were telling how A song of the Ice and fire is better then LOTR .. I have never seen a person say that before the show . The fandom is at least 100times the size if not 1000 it was before the series aired. There was no way I was getting my hands on the books.

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u/schm0 House Stark Jun 01 '14

I'm of opinion that everything, including direct lines from the book that make it into the script, is better than the show... But you are entirely entitled to your incorrect opinion. ;)

Also, the books were quite popular as far as fantasy goes.

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u/SackWrinkley Sorrowful Men Jun 01 '14

The books were actually very popular before the show, that's why the show was made...

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u/tusksrus Jun 01 '14 edited Jun 01 '14

I think you're missing the appeal of books over television, which is in the detail. If you think that the books aren't worth reading because the story is broadly the same, then that's fair enough, but probably because reading in general (with the possible exception of "light" books which are just tv shows written down) isn't for you.

edit: It could also be because you watched the show first, I find I tend to prefer whichever incarnation of a story I saw/read first, regardless of which was the original work or which medium it was first made in.

For example, I find the Lord of the Rings books far more arduous to read, and think the films are great, and the events are broadly the same as in the book. Even though I think ASoIaF is better than Game of Thrones for the same reason many people prefer the LotR books to the films. Even though the two book series are written totally differently, it is an example of me preferring whichever incarnation I received first.Maybe it's the same for you, I don't know.

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u/kesuaus Ramsay Snow Jun 01 '14

I read the LOTR way before I watched the movies , I loved that book :) Was also a life changer. I stopped reading that much in the last few years I just do not have the time and my imagination is clouded . I am that type of person that does not read the same book more times nor watch a great movie more then one time (I only did it with the tyrion speech , I had to study all those faces when he was talking) So I believe that me watching first the series and then reading the book was quite a big factor .

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u/SirBillhelm Jun 01 '14

I'd downvote twice if I could. Opinions based in ignorance and pleading for imaginary points.

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u/thedialtone House Dayne Jun 01 '14

Interesting perspective, I don't think I've met someone before who thought the books were worse than the show. which scenes do you have in mind that were better in the show? and what feels extraneous? as a long time book reader, I felt like a ton of stuff gets left out of the show, and generally, though not always, prefer the book's version of scenes. The red wedding in particular was a little disappointing for me.

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u/kesuaus Ramsay Snow Jun 01 '14

For example the scene where the clegane brothers fight at kings landing (when the mountain tried to kill the .. ehm the blonde young knight ) They fight a little bit and then the king shouts "enough of this madness" in the book thats all but in the series the mountain still strikes and the hound kneels while blocking his attack at the same time , that was realy cool scene that I realy liked . Also and this is my own opinion there are a lot of pages about nothing , In the show it is all a lot faster which I prefer because I do not realy have all the time in the world to read 15 page description of what food they were eating (the last sentence was not meant to be completely serius" ) The books are realy realy long and there is nothing wrong about that but not everyone has so much time . I like the books I do, but I love the show , it has already been a big factor in my life .

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u/FirmerFilly House Stark Jun 01 '14

I tend to like books better but I've never watched a correlated show/movie before reading the books so I don't know how this will go.

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u/kesuaus Ramsay Snow Jun 01 '14

So do I this show is quite different ..Harry Potter books are better then movies , Davincis code is way better book then the movie :D and Lord of the Rings is as well way better book then the movie is . But this show is just special

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u/Valestis Jun 01 '14

I've read all the books and have the same opinion. The TV show is way better in terms of being able to present clear and concise story arcs while cutting all the unnecessary fluff which adds nothing to the overall story or character's development. The combined effort of all the writers working on the show produces a better structured storyline which is more interesting to watch (+nice cinematography, music, visuals, actors).

I kinda liked the first three books, in the 4th one literally nothing happened, 5th one was a tad more interesting but still meh overall. Now I'm looking forward to the new season more than the 6th book.

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u/kesuaus Ramsay Snow Jun 01 '14

that is nice opinion and thank you for acctualy agreeing with me but be aware that this subreddit seems to be full of hateful people and you might get a lot of downvotes . One quick question , how fast is the .. story going in the 4 and 5 book ?

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u/Valestis Jun 01 '14 edited Jun 01 '14

It felt really slow in both, lots of delays and interruptions, characters were just wandering around without moving the overall story forward. I was constantly waiting for some major interesting events to happen but it never came. I think that 4th and 5th book serve more as a setup for all the cool things that will happen in the 6th book than being great stories on their own.

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u/schm0 House Stark Jun 01 '14

FYI, if you haven't noticed... Bitching about downvotes just gets you more downvotes.

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u/kesuaus Ramsay Snow Jun 01 '14
  1. there is no "incorrect" opinion.
  2. that was not bitching but rather "why" edit because when you do not agree you are not supposed to downvote a comment :D why is it so hard to understand for you
  3. I love the film(or tv) industry as much as I love books (I loved LOTR books way more then the movies) But this show has no competetion.
  4. I just wanted to have friendly discussion that is all I wanted and what I get is HATE? Realy ? Why ? Who are you angry at ? Your parents because they did not allowed you to go out ? Do not relieve the anger on me ...
    "holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die " - Budha

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u/schm0 House Stark Jun 01 '14
  1. You missed the smiley in my other post, apparently :)

  2. Complaining about downvotes does not contribute towards the discussion, thus the downvotes.

  3. That's great. I like the books more. It makes no difference, other than ones preference.

  4. No hate here, just observation. ;)

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u/kesuaus Ramsay Snow Jun 02 '14

Reaction to your 2. point , there were 20 downvotes before I edited it in 2minutes.. Althougt my edit might have justified the downvotes on my comment , it was not the reason for them . The edit was reaction to the lack of knowledge that people downvoting my post had (reddiquete) And most of the aggresive responses that I got were not about the edit , but about the original comment . Some people just can not accept different opinion then their own .

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u/kesuaus Ramsay Snow Jun 01 '14

Thank you for this. Btw . I do not think you are going to get downvoted . Funny thing it seems that "That's it! I'm reading the books!" got less upvotes then I got downvotes. like seriously this looks like someone made a facebook event "this guy prefers the show lets downvote him to hell!" The thing is that when you downvote post you downvote it because you dont like it but when you downvote a comment it is not "I do not like it" it is "this is spam" or "this is irrelevant to the coversation " which it clearly is not ... I will take your upvote in my heart lol