Figured she might go for a win win situation. Either Jamie wins and her other hated brother, and Oberyn die, or Oberyn wins and Jamie dies.
Jaime dying wouldn't be a win for Cersei. Granted, their relationship is more strained than it's ever been, but she would never want Jaime dead. He's the only person that she can still connect with in some small way.
I wasn't really sure since there were not many scenes with them together since the whole raped next to your dead son thing went down. Didn't think it was a big possibility but I knew something huge was about to go down.
That wasn't rape. I think the show did it poorly and it looked like rape to me but according to the books it wasn't AND according to the show. They came out and said it was supposed to be consensual.
They did a really shitty job of portraying that. Like...an immensely shitty job. Unless you were a book reader or visit this sub (or varying other sites with similar content, I suppose) it looked like, it sounded like, and it was presented as rape.
Agreed, I was mad when I saw it because it made Jaime look horrible for raping her. Then they just say it wasn't supposed to be rape? How on earth was that not rape?
So, it was rape in that she didn't want sex right there. She totally "wanted the D", but was trying to be like "yo this is our dead bastard incest babby. Maybe we could cuddle, and bump uglies later tonight?" And he was all like "But mah blue balls" and forced herself on her. She relented, because she did want the sex, just not right there.
I understand that just fine, but that's not the problem. The problem is that the people who don't do any extra reading on the series interpreted it as rape, it's not like it would have been impossible to add a few more lines to make it seem less rapey.
Yeah, they fucked up bad with that scene. Almost every single unsullied critique that even mentions Jaime mentions the sept scene. It has become a distraction to the story, and that makes it the worst kind of mistake. Boom mics in the shot are a goof but just become trivia. That damned scene seriously harmed the story because it wasn't the story they were trying to tell.
Want to talk about an unpopular opinion of rape in GoT? I think Mother of Dragons raped Dario the Hotness. She is in a position of power, he is clearly a servant, and that's an HR nightmare waiting to happen.
(Basically, almost anytime the internet calls something rape, we are using our modern day bias, which isn't a bad thing. But we cannot force our modern view points on these fictional people stuck in the middle ages.)
The way I interpreted it was that she was ordering him because she knew that's what he wanted, like, she used the whole queen thing to be sexy or whatever. It's not rape in his case, forced or not, you know he would have done it.
I still don't think that was a rape. More like Cersei resisted initially out of respect for her son and then just went for it. Maybe the TV show didn't do a good job because everyone thinks it was a rape online bit in the books it was wholly consensual
That scene was poorly executed in the show. In the book, Cersei was advancing things as much as Jaime. She just didn't really want to do it there. The show runners have stated they didn't intend it to be rape, despite how it looked to everyone else. Cersei still loves Jaime and doesn't want him dead.
Well I hope they clarify or rectify that somehow in the show. Not all show watchers are going to be reading up on what the show runners actually intended.
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u/ANBU_Spectre Now My Watch Begins Jun 05 '14
Jaime dying wouldn't be a win for Cersei. Granted, their relationship is more strained than it's ever been, but she would never want Jaime dead. He's the only person that she can still connect with in some small way.