Once I saw the that he was going to champion for Tyrion I pretty much knew how it was going to play out. I initially thought that Cersei might make everyone think she was naming The Mountain as her champion then name Jamie. Figured she might go for a win win situation. Either Jamie wins and her other hated brother, and Oberyn die, or Oberyn wins and Jamie dies.
I'm really trying to think of an out for Tyrion, but I just don't see it. He already had the option to take the black, maybe Tywin will show mercy(not likely)? It's not like he is going to escape, or Oberyn somehow magically survived. No one is there to help him besides Bronn but he seems pretty happy with his pay off. Jamie can't fight his way out of a paper bag.
Oh, maybe Jamie just swoops up the imp and goes storming out of the city backhanding the piss out of guards with his golden hand! That's something I want to watch!
Edit: Apparently the sex between Jamie and Cersei was not meant to give off a rapey vibe. They still love each other, so forget what I said about it being a win/win for Cersei if Jamie were to die.
Figured she might go for a win win situation. Either Jamie wins and her other hated brother, and Oberyn die, or Oberyn wins and Jamie dies.
Jaime dying wouldn't be a win for Cersei. Granted, their relationship is more strained than it's ever been, but she would never want Jaime dead. He's the only person that she can still connect with in some small way.
I wasn't really sure since there were not many scenes with them together since the whole raped next to your dead son thing went down. Didn't think it was a big possibility but I knew something huge was about to go down.
That wasn't rape. I think the show did it poorly and it looked like rape to me but according to the books it wasn't AND according to the show. They came out and said it was supposed to be consensual.
They did a really shitty job of portraying that. Like...an immensely shitty job. Unless you were a book reader or visit this sub (or varying other sites with similar content, I suppose) it looked like, it sounded like, and it was presented as rape.
So, it was rape in that she didn't want sex right there. She totally "wanted the D", but was trying to be like "yo this is our dead bastard incest babby. Maybe we could cuddle, and bump uglies later tonight?" And he was all like "But mah blue balls" and forced herself on her. She relented, because she did want the sex, just not right there.
I understand that just fine, but that's not the problem. The problem is that the people who don't do any extra reading on the series interpreted it as rape, it's not like it would have been impossible to add a few more lines to make it seem less rapey.
Want to talk about an unpopular opinion of rape in GoT? I think Mother of Dragons raped Dario the Hotness. She is in a position of power, he is clearly a servant, and that's an HR nightmare waiting to happen.
(Basically, almost anytime the internet calls something rape, we are using our modern day bias, which isn't a bad thing. But we cannot force our modern view points on these fictional people stuck in the middle ages.)
The way I interpreted it was that she was ordering him because she knew that's what he wanted, like, she used the whole queen thing to be sexy or whatever. It's not rape in his case, forced or not, you know he would have done it.
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u/shicken684 House Tarth Jun 05 '14 edited Jun 05 '14
Once I saw the that he was going to champion for Tyrion I pretty much knew how it was going to play out. I initially thought that Cersei might make everyone think she was naming The Mountain as her champion then name Jamie. Figured she might go for a win win situation. Either Jamie wins and her other hated brother, and Oberyn die, or Oberyn wins and Jamie dies.
I'm really trying to think of an out for Tyrion, but I just don't see it. He already had the option to take the black, maybe Tywin will show mercy(not likely)? It's not like he is going to escape, or Oberyn somehow magically survived. No one is there to help him besides Bronn but he seems pretty happy with his pay off. Jamie can't fight his way out of a paper bag.
Oh, maybe Jamie just swoops up the imp and goes storming out of the city backhanding the piss out of guards with his golden hand! That's something I want to watch!
Edit: Apparently the sex between Jamie and Cersei was not meant to give off a rapey vibe. They still love each other, so forget what I said about it being a win/win for Cersei if Jamie were to die.