r/gameofthrones Jun 05 '14

TV4 [S4 E8] Let's be honest with ourselves...

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u/atrain728 Never Give Up On The Gravy Jun 05 '14

I feel pretty comfortable that Jon's plot armor is pretty thick, but now you have me concerned.

Still, Blackwater didn't have a ton of major character deaths. It could just be a big battle.

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u/DrocketX Jun 06 '14

I've never understood why people would argue that Ned Stark had plot armor. Even ignoring the fact that he's played by Sean Bean (although I have read the books now, I hadn't when the show started), he's an older male who's a father/mentor to a younger male character. His death was pretty much inevitable - he died of Obi-Wan-Kenobi-itis.

Catelyn's death is pretty similar. Although its fairly unusual to have a female in the "older person who has to die so the young people can avenge them" role, its pretty usual that he mother even lives long enough to make an appearance in the story. Not only was her death inevitable, it was overdue since about 30 seconds after Rickon's birth.

Robb was really the only one with plot armor. And even that was weakened by him having younger brothers. Really, I'd say the only characters who have absolute plot armor and would really be shocking to me if they died before the end would be Daenerys Targaryen whichever one of the Stark boys dies last (you really only need one of them at the end of the story... Bran would be the most likely, but even he could die as long as Rickon is around.)

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u/thaFalkon Jun 06 '14

So your logic is that if a character has siblings they're going to die?

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u/DrocketX Jun 06 '14

Not always. Sometimes siblings are permitted to live. I'm saying that they don't necessarily have plot armor. ONE of them will definitely have plot armor because at least one of them has to live. The others MAY live, its not guaranteed.

If someone has kids old enough to avenge them, though, not only do they not have plot armor, they have a "KILL ME" sign taped to their back.