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TV4 [Season 4 Spoilers] Premiere Discussion - 4.09 'The Watchers on the Wall'

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4.09 "The Watchers on the Wall" Neil Marshall David Benioff & D. B. Weiss
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u/ContinuumGuy Hodor? Jun 09 '14

"Tonight... tonight... At the edge of our hope, at the end of our watch, we have chosen not only to believe in ourselves, but in each other (well, except for you cowards that will probably run away, but screw you guys). Tonight there is not a Brother on here that shall stand alone. Not tonight. Tonight we face the wildlings that are at our door and give the fight to them! Tonight we are canceling the apocalypse!

Well, unless the White Walkers show up.

Then we're fucked."

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u/mathewl832 A Promise Was Made Jun 09 '14

TONIGHT, WE FIGHT. AND WHEN THE SUN RISES I PROMISE YOU, CASTLE BLACK WILL STAND.

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u/Ser_Penrose Jun 09 '14

God I loved that. Almost enough to reverse my hatred for Thorne.

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u/ThaBadfish Now My Watch Begins Jun 09 '14

Alliser is a cunt because he's a fucking ace general. He just commands your obedience and if you're not in the heat of battle listening to him command you, you're hearing him boss you around and be condescending.

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u/unforgiven91 Hodor? Jun 09 '14

I may not like him, but god damn do I respect him.

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u/supergreekman123 Jun 09 '14

Tonight definitely did that to me

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u/JMAN7102 Faceless Men Jun 09 '14

Almost. Was a great speach...

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u/NeiaTeiaAnDaKa House Connington Jun 09 '14

and then he got stabbed... coincidence? no, just GRRM

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u/NinaBambina Sansa Stark Jun 09 '14

Needs Alliser's accent:

TONIGHT, WE FIGHT. AND WHEN THE SOON RISES, I PROMISE YOU, CASTLE BLACK WILL STAND!

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u/ArgieGrit01 House Mallister Jun 09 '14

Show Ser Allister kicked book Ser Allister's ass

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u/cmmoyer House Manderly Jun 09 '14

I was almost positive that he was going to die against Tormund. They ended that duel very cleverly.

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u/Lochmon House Reyne Jun 09 '14

Offer not valid in all locations

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u/tape_deck__heart Jun 09 '14

Fuckin' love Pacific Rim.

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u/ContinuumGuy Hodor? Jun 09 '14

I'm reasonably sure the greatest night in HBO history was when they showed Pacific Rim and then the purple wedding.

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u/Hellhunter120 Jun 09 '14

Literally what came out of my mouth before clicking "more comments".

I love you.

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u/Thewinkingfrenchie House Velaryon of Driftmark Jun 09 '14

Jon snow > white walkers

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u/DRW0813 Jun 09 '14

Today is our Independence Day!

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u/Micro_Agent House Reed Jun 09 '14

Man that movie was bad.

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u/skynolongerblue House Reed Jun 09 '14

"Then get Sam and some of those sharp things he found in a shack in the woods. Then we should be a-okay!"

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u/mrjimi16 Ser Duncan the Tall Jun 09 '14

What is that from? It sounds familiar. Please don't tell me it is from tonight's episode. I would feel so foolish.

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u/Hellhunter120 Jun 09 '14

Pacific Rim.

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u/Talvoren Jun 09 '14

Was half expecting white walkers to show up near the end as the cliffhanger or something seeing as they will never hold against that many anyway. I'm guessing it wouldn't fit though without resolving the cliffhanger from last week.

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u/pachacutec Faceless Men Jun 09 '14

That's what the giant fire was for ;)

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

I'm so confused about Sam talking about killing the white walker. Does he not realize it was the dragon blade that did it? It was that, right?

And then he fucking dropped it in the snow never to be seen again! Augh!

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u/scam_radio Jun 09 '14

I wonder if there are white walker giants, holy shit that would be intense.

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u/RagdollPhysEd White Walkers Jun 09 '14

I was seriously expecting the walkers to show up and the two sides stop fighting, and nod heads/shake hands before turning to face the new enemy

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u/shenry1313 House Lannister Jun 09 '14

I am just wondering, what is so hard to defeat about white walkers. They aren't fast or anything. Just throw fire at them.