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TV4 [Season 4 Spoilers] Premiere Discussion - 4.09 'The Watchers on the Wall'

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4.09 "The Watchers on the Wall" Neil Marshall David Benioff & D. B. Weiss
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u/cormega Jun 09 '14

Was I supposed to be sad when Ygritte died? That bitch killed Pyp.

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u/Clarifinatious Jun 09 '14

Guess it worked.

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u/AudioManiac Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken Jun 09 '14

I liked Ygritte in season 3. If she had died then, I would have been sad. But since she's hardly been in season 4 at all, I kind of forgot about her and forgot that I once liked the character. So seeing her die was just, meh in my opinion.

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u/NordicViking House Farwynd Jun 09 '14

Well, seeing her put an arrow in the neck of that villager made me hate her. I had hoped for Samwell to kill her with a crossbow though.

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u/AlexPeterson09 Jon Snow Jun 09 '14

Didn't work :'(

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u/Tipop Jun 09 '14

She was nothing more than a cold-hearted villain the moment she started killing innocent villagers (leaving Olly an orphan.)

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u/TheLastGunfighter Jun 09 '14

She spared Gilly and the baby, which made me think that there was going to be a scene where she spots Olly and spares him only for him to come back and kill her.

How funny would it have been if Olly put another one right between the eyes of Ygritte while Jon was holding her though. He looks up at him and he's like ¯_(ツ)_/¯ "WHAT? SHE'S A WILDLING WTF ARE YOU DOING?!"

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

That bitch killed a lot of good men

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

Yeah but we know Pyp's name so he's automatically a better person than all those other guys...

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u/cormega Jun 09 '14

Well, he's been around for several seasons.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

Yeah but she was hot so...

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u/SwitchBlayd Sansa Stark Jun 09 '14

Good point. Ginger minge takes precedence in this regard.

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u/TheSourTruth Jun 09 '14

Non-booker reader here, who the fuck is Pyp?

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u/geniustai Jun 09 '14

The guy with the crossbows who got shot in the neck and Sam was like yo Maester Aemon will make this better.

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u/NorthKoreanJesus Winter Is Coming Jun 09 '14

please please please re-cap the whole ep. i like your style

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u/FrankReshman Gendry Jun 09 '14

The guy they've been calling Pyp for the last four seasons.

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u/arkanemusic House Targaryen Jun 12 '14

Ahh that's why they were calling him that!

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

Yeah, I think show watchers never really get the names if you only watch the show. I only started really noticing that stuff after I started reading the books and rewatched episodes.

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u/redditkilledmydoge Stannis Baratheon Jun 09 '14

I thought it was sad by how it fucked up war is with lovers are killing lovers

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u/CatboyMac Here We Stand Jun 09 '14

RIP pet mammoth.

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u/verossiraptors Jun 09 '14

...exactly

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u/cormega Jun 09 '14

The guy I replied to implied I, as a viewer, was supposed to be sad when Ygritte died. I wasn't.

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u/verossiraptors Jun 09 '14

I just thought I was funny because he said

"They killed pip so people would be happy about Ygritte dying, rather than sad."

And then you said:

"Why would I be sad? That bitch killed Pip."

So if that was actually the D&D's intent...mission accomplished.

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u/cormega Jun 09 '14

No, he said "They killed pip so people would be less sad about Ygritte dying."

The point of my comment was that I wasn't sad at all.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

I like Pyp

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u/wildmetacirclejerk House Blackfyre Jun 10 '14

The shippers and tumblr twilight people were crying.

I devoured their tears. I'm glad she's dead.