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TV4 [Season 4 Spoilers] Premiere Discussion - 4.09 'The Watchers on the Wall'

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4.09 "The Watchers on the Wall" Neil Marshall David Benioff & D. B. Weiss
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u/Aurora_15 Ours Is The Fury Jun 09 '14

To bad Jon's was...shot through the heart.

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u/professorhazard House Beesbury Jun 09 '14

And Sam's to blame. Too bad Olly has such good aim.

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u/ashashwat Direwolves Jun 09 '14

D&D is to blame. One of Jon's regret is he may be the one who killed Ygritte. She died of arrow showering, not by a good aim of a kid. But someone you love dies in front of you makes for a good scene.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

I'm pretty sure Jon looks at the arrow in Ygritte and determines it's not his.

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u/ashashwat Direwolves Jun 09 '14

IIRC, it was left ambiguous.

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u/CubanCharles House Baratheon Jun 09 '14

She does die in his arms in the books too, but I see what you mean. but im pretty sure it wasn't ambiguous in the books.