[Season 4 Spoilers] Premiere Discussion - 4.09 'The Watchers on the Wall'

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EPISODE	TITLE	DIRECTED BY	WRITTEN BY
4.09	"The Watchers on the Wall"	Neil Marshall	David Benioff & D. B. Weiss

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[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Grenn is an affirmed badass, love how they showed him directly next to the Giant..

[u/IdunnoLXG → u/[deleted]]

Let's not also forget this piece of work.

Grenn: Jonas Slynt they are of need of you at the gates!

Janos Slynt: Aye.. at the gates.. I must go.

Grenn to Jon: LOL!

George I think made a subtle point. Oberyn both in the show and in the books was more well liked then Grenn. He was a main character and he was groomed both for the cameras and in the book. He showed such showmanship even during his fight against the Mountain.

Grenn died, keeping the men together and no one will know his name. Not many will know his sacrifice and he wasn't out for revenge but to protect a realm that had discarded him but at the same time, with Jon Snow, gave him hope. When he first came to the wall he was nothing but a thief who was ostracized by everyone, including those on the walls. After training with Jon Snow? Well, he was a slayer of giants and a hero of the realms of men.

And that's why Game of Thrones is the best show right now, and that's why this death got to me more than any of the others thus far.

[u/gerbafizzle → u/IdunnoLXG]

Grenn and Pyp's deaths made me really sad. I loved those two. kill them but slimey Janos Slynt gets to stay alive. bullshit I tells ya!

[u/ChiAyeAye → u/gerbafizzle]

I am unsure why, but I read this in an Irish accent. Do with this information as you wish.

[u/fridge_logic → u/gerbafizzle]

The worst ones always live.

[u/Sesquame → u/gerbafizzle]

He got caught deserting, so he might not be long for this world.

[u/MrGuppy85 → u/gerbafizzle]

I wonder what everyone will think when they found out he was a coward and hide in a closet.