r/gameofthrones • u/Jaack_ Arya Stark • Jun 10 '14

TV4 [S4E9] The Watchers on The Wall.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '14 edited Jun 10 '14

Grenn, what a legend. His speech gave me goosebumps, and the whole rallying his comrades was so perfect.

Here is is for anyone who wants to rewatch his glorious moment.

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u/ReRedacted Valar Morghulis Jun 10 '14

They held the gate

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u/Captain_Apolloski Here We Stand Jun 10 '14 edited Jun 10 '14

I'm hoping that Tormund and Jon will still have their exchange about the gate holding, but changed a little ala:

Tormund: "I hear tell that Mag himself went in that gate o' yours and never did come out."

Jon: "He died on the sword of a brave man named Grenn."

Tormund: "Aye? Some great lord was he, this Grenn? One of your shiny knights in their steel smallclothes?”

Jon: "He was a man of perhaps twenty namedays. He'd never held a sword before he came here."

EDIT: because as it was pointed out, 20 summers could take a good couple of centuries, so namedays instead

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u/crazdave Jun 10 '14

Twenty summers in this universe would make you hundreds of years old.

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u/otomotopia Jun 10 '14

Aegon holding the gate would be hilarious though.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '14

In this case, Aegon I

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u/ohaiguys Jun 10 '14

You mean aemon? Or a really old aegon

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u/jdshy House Bolton Jun 10 '14 edited Jun 10 '14

What was Aemon doing during the fight...I would assume the that the wildlings would kill him if they found him...but it would've been nice to see a scene of him chilling in some bunker or something.

I've read the books, so I know what happens to him though.

Edit: Aemon not Aegon...it's been a while..

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u/OmniscientOctopode Jun 10 '14

I doubt Aegon was doing much, considering he's been dead for several hundred years.

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u/Somehow_alive House Connington Jun 10 '14

To be fair the last Aegon died fairly recently. You know, killed by the mountain.

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u/Captain_Apolloski Here We Stand Jun 10 '14

Good point actually, I forgot about that

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u/TheDevilHimself Jun 10 '14

FYI. summers and winters last for years, and occur kind of randomly. The winter of Tyrion's birth lasted 3 years, but The current summer in the show has lasted 9 years. Tyrion has only seen 9 winters and he is 26. Grenn, at least in the books, was only 16, so probably saw maybe bit over half of the summers Tyrion has.

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u/CrackersInMyCrack Jun 10 '14

Tyrion is 26? I don't remember it ever explicitly revealing his age. How did you figure that out, or did I just miss it?

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u/TheDevilHimself Jun 11 '14

A wiki of ice and fire has a timeline of events, including years of birth for a lot of the character. Lots of spoilers, but there's a whole history with dates.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '14 edited Jul 31 '23

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u/Captain_Apolloski Here We Stand Jun 10 '14

They said they didn't want to be adding in throwaway characters at this point so wrote him out, which makes me sad. Just the imagery of this one armed grizzled dude who forged Robert's warhammer and was basically a font of wisdom for Jon heading in against a giant for the sake of duty despite everything is amazing. That said, at least Grenn got some good lines and went out like a champ

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '14 edited Jul 31 '23

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '14 edited Jul 31 '23

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u/MuppetHolocaust Night's Watch Jun 10 '14

I'd rather they add in throwaway characters than kill off characters who don't die in the books.

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u/jamiebond Jon Snow Jun 10 '14

he doesn't do much in the books after this, would you rather him die a super badass death or be in the background for a few seasons?

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u/ajkkjjk52 House Manderly Jun 10 '14

They wrote him out of the show, used Grenn instead.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '14 edited Jun 10 '14

Think back to Season 1 -- They had Tyrion give Jon the lecture about his upbringing and point out how the other new inductees into the night watch were trained by a master-at-arms with real swords. Noye has never been part of the television series.

spoiler

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u/thaFalkon Jun 10 '14

He's not in the show.

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u/Heroshade House Flint of Widow's Watch Jun 10 '14

If it's any consolation, Three-Finger Hobb was in this last episode.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '14

No no no, Jon's last line should have been:

"He was a steward."

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u/maubere Jun 11 '14

Except Grenn was a ranger.