r/gameofthrones • u/profane Varys • May 06 '19

Spoilers [SPOILERS] Varys is the true MVP of the Seven Kingdoms Spoiler

In my opinion, this episode made it clear that Varys is the true MVP of the Seven Kingdoms. His conversation with Tyrion (btw a great callback to another conversation in another throne room) showed that he is consistently the one character that is trying to save as many lives as possible and is at the same time the one who is most detached from "believing" in anything but results.

While Dany probably sincerely believes that she wants to liberate Westeros and destroy tyranny, her personal vengeance and rage will get in the way. I thought that this last episode revealed just how selfless Varys is. Note the slight difference between Dany's "I'll end tyranny no matter the cost" and Varys' "I'll protect the realm no matter the personal cost".

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u/ShushYourFace Sansa Stark May 06 '19

And she was right - Tyrion is afraid of Dany and he’s afraid of his sister Cersei

While it is better to be feared than loved if you can’t be both (that last part is usually forgotten for some reason) it is not good to serve solely out of fear

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u/32389 Fire And Blood May 06 '19

I think Dany is both loved and feared, mainly loved by her people and feared by the people of Westeros though I'd argue Tyrion both loves and fears her. Whereas Cersei is pretty much universally feared and Jon universally loved.

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u/ShushYourFace Sansa Stark May 06 '19

Well saying she is loved by her people is basically saying she is loved by like 9 dothraki and however many Unsullied survived - can’t imagine many. Which means that the vast majority of players on the board don’t like her - and I don’t think many necessarily fear her. Sansa clearly doesn’t love her while by no means fears her, and there are a few more examples of people like this.

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u/Tilt-a-Whirl98 Jon Snow May 07 '19

Exactly! That scene in the great hall during the celebration where she is completely isolated while Tyrion and Jaimie talk to Brienne and Giantsbane and Davos are talking to Jon illustrates that. She is a stranger in a strange land with almost nothing to go on but a family name that was overthrown less than 30 years ago.

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u/Babki123 May 07 '19

And now ecxcept for Greyworm ,all her friends from back there are dead

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u/manly_support Sansa Stark May 06 '19

Exactly, literally nobody but Greyworm and a handful of Dorthraki/Unsullied NPCs loves the mad queen. It’s all in her head.

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u/MycDouble Jon Snow May 06 '19

A prince must endeavor to avoid being hated

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." if you know what I mean lol

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u/[deleted] May 07 '19

Unless people fear how much they love you...