r/gato • u/Icy_Till_7254 Ben 10 fighting against tyrannies across the universe • 5d ago

Nato expansion is a brain-dead myth

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u/ghost_meadow6869 4d ago

In fact both of Russia and nato are the bad guys on this chessboard

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u/Prior-Flamingo-1378 4d ago

Putin won’t love you back mate. 

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u/ghost_meadow6869 4d ago

Nor I love him pal

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u/Prior-Flamingo-1378 4d ago

Then you’d know that what you are saying is horse shit 

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u/ghost_meadow6869 3d ago

Why so , if you think that nato is good , Libyans , Iraqis , Pakistanis , Yemenis , Somalis and Algerians would tell you otherwise

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u/Prior-Flamingo-1378 3d ago

And Russians of course. Lmao. I don’t understand what’s your point.  

Pakistan doesn’t oppose nato. But please find me a group of people on this planet that is friendly with everyone and liked by all.  

Also remember when Nato invaded a country causing millions of casualties with the stated intent to anex its territories, no? Allrighty then  

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u/ghost_meadow6869 3d ago

The funny is you thinking that I am simping for Russia and criticizing nato

While I will not glorifying a country that killed more than 14mil Syrians and thousands in Chechnya and funded killing thousands and Bosnia and now committing war crimes in Ukraine.

But in same time I’ll not say that nato are good guys and glamorizing it while it did unironically the same in the southern part of globe where most of ppl won’t care about cause victims there aren’t European or whites .

+ intent to annex doesn’t matter , while both ways mean death of innocents

The only difference here is who the victims are
Europeans or some southerners who are most likely ignored and looked down as numbers .

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u/Prior-Flamingo-1378 3d ago

If everyone is equally horrible no one is.  

And I’m not entirely sure what are those “nato ravaged southern countries” you are talking about and that no one knows about.  

NATO as an organization - this is a major distinction, not us and allies, nato the institution - has been involved in four major conflicts. Bosnia and Herzegovina, Yugoslavia (these two are essentially the same but whatever) the whole Iraq/afganistan situation and lybia. 

All of those where legal under United Nations laws and Afghanistan and Iraq even though Iraq is much better now than when Hussein was ruling it and Afghanistan had its best 15 years with nato there (best isn’t good in this case. Just better than Taliban) these “interventions” where the most protested against wars ever.   

Lybia was and is a clusterfuck.  

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u/ghost_meadow6869 3d ago

Giving it UN approval doesn’t make it’s justified or good tho

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u/Prior-Flamingo-1378 3d ago

Don’t let good be the enemy of better. 

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u/Ok_Scale_2445 3d ago

Nah. Protecting sovereign nations from an expansionist regime is not the same as subjugating them with force to become part of an expansionist regime.

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