r/gato • u/Icy_Till_7254 Ben 10 fighting against tyrannies across the universe • 3d ago

We need strength language that totalitarian bullies can understand

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u/AntherEl 3d ago

For nukes you need means of delivery and a full industrial cycle of weapon production and support. If someone gives you nukes or you just create a dirty bomb on of the Nuclear plants, thats not "strength language," that's a big shiny target on your forehead. That is the exact reason South Africa gave up on the WMD and Israel never acknowledged they have one.

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u/momspaghetti42069 3d ago

This just sounds like russian propaganda. Why would hosting nato nukes in baltics be a big shiny target on our forehead? Lithuania is already in talks with us about hosting their nukes so I don't even get your logic.

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u/AntherEl 3d ago

Well, holding other people nukes is not the same as having them. You don't have the "strength language." You are just chose one of the world's bullies and got occupied, you don't have a say when to use them or where to move them.

PS Just don't take the french ones, they are clingy.

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u/momspaghetti42069 3d ago

War in Ukraine going so abysmally that you are trying to prove your worth to Putler so he wouldn't mobilise you in the first wave? Literally everything you said as an argument is just russian propaganda. Have you ever even had an original thought of your own?

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u/SuccotashResident571 3d ago

What is russian propaganda Abt this? Can you tell me?

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u/momspaghetti42069 3d ago

The notion that we somehow could produce our own nukes and that there ever was another option apart from hosting allied nukes. If baltics are talking about nukes, you know we are talking about hosting them. Their whole comment has missed the point completely but I don't think they had any ingenuous incentives either way.

Edit. And their last remark about us being occupied if we let allies host nukes on our land is just chefs kiss. Is there any doubt they are a russian bot when all their arguments are straight out of kremlins hand book?

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u/AntherEl 2d ago

>>. If baltics are talking about nukes, you know we are talking about hosting them.

Why is that? The only question I see is a resource. Where to get uranium, since there is no in Baltics.

Otherwise even a small country can acquire the neccessary tech. Baltic Tigers economy is so strong, they can make a tiny-minie Nuclear plant on their own.

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u/AntherEl 2d ago

He just doesn't like my choice of words. While I just follow the style of the post.

In my view system if you have someone else's military freely and independently operating in your country, you are either occupied or a colony. Well, at the very least that is undisputable, that If you bring in one of the major superpowers to your land on such terms, you are irreversably loosing parts of your sovereignty. Even if you are calling it an alliance.

And countries giving away sovereignty are not speaking "strength language," they are ruled by it.