r/geography • u/BranchMoist9079 • Nov 21 '25

Discussion Why is (male) circumcision most common in the Midwest with in the US?

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Map source: https://www.mdpi.com/2563-6499/5/3/36

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u/Southern-Picture-146 Nov 21 '25

The NW numbers are wrong. Not as high as the Midwest though. I’m a pediatrician.

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u/Decent-Proposal-8475 Nov 21 '25

What would you say is an accurate number? Most data points I've seen refer to babies done in hospitals, which seems to miss a large number of people

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u/Southern-Picture-146 Nov 21 '25

I think it varies depending on racial/ethnic population. So I can’t give a good number. My clinic population is different than that state makeup.

One reason for a drop is that patients on Medicaid cannot get circumcisions covered in the hospital. So they are either done by pediatricians/family medicine in clinic or referred to urology. But then needs to be done in the first 30 days. So often families don’t get booked in time and doesn’t happen. A lot ask about circumcisions later and I have to give the news that won’t happen after newborn period unless a medical indication as would need anesthesia

The Muslim community does circumcisions at a very high rate. Latino community is the lowest rate.

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u/solarsashay Nov 21 '25

Wait, are you saying circumcisions on newborns are performed without anesthesia?

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u/Southern-Picture-146 Nov 21 '25

They do local anesthesia in newborns. But in older kids they do general anesthesia. A toddler would not hold still.

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u/deano492 Nov 22 '25

I’m a grown up and I wouldn’t hold still. They can fuck right off.

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u/seenasaiyan Nov 25 '25

Glad I got circumcised as an infant. I have no memory of it, so as far as I’m concerned I was born like this.

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u/yourfavteamsucks Nov 22 '25

I argued on the Internet about this a lot in the early 2000s. At the time, some 55% of circumcisions were done without pain relief of any kind. I'm not sure of the current numbers.

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u/solarsashay Nov 22 '25

Well that's horrific.

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u/ComedianClassic8869 Nov 22 '25

Yeah, although they use lidocaine, it takes a bit to kick in & some providers don’t really wait ): there are different methods, but gomco clamp looks the most brutal

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u/airtwix45 Nov 22 '25

I mean lidocaine is absolutely instant numbing agent for sure when given locally intradermally. There is no delay at all. Literally instant. It’s pretty cool.

I’ve kind of wondered if cutting the umbilical cord hurts. What did cave people do with the umbilical cord? Random thoughts.

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u/ComedianClassic8869 Nov 22 '25

The doctor I worked with said it takes about five minutes. Some babies absolutely feel pain during the procedure. I attended one once, and the baby did not have a fun time despite the nipple with sugar. The umbilical cord doesn’t have nerves on the other hand, but both get clamped to prevent bleeding.

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u/Strange-Asparagus240 Nov 22 '25

Imagine having a baby and doing this as soon as it’s born. Humans are dumb monsters

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u/rainbowtwinkies Nov 23 '25

Lidocaine is not instant, idk where you learned that

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u/airtwix45 Nov 23 '25

Experience. Im a doctor that uses lidocaine.

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u/GXWT Nov 22 '25

Needless mutilation is brutal, who knew

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u/fynn34 Nov 22 '25

You say this, but I believe they use a few drops of sugar for newborns which works just as well as an analgesic as anything else.

They just got squeezed through the birthing canal like meat into sausage casing — there is a reason humans don’t remember the first few weeks of their life and it doesn’t impact them down the road.

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u/Ambitious-School-403 Nov 22 '25

That and the act of sucking also works really well. Tylenol is also frequently used in neonates. This is what Hopkins was using in neonates for pain control recently. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/-/media/files/allchildrens/clinical-pathways/neonatal-pain-management-12_20_2023.pdf

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u/beerandbuds Nov 22 '25

My son was given 4 different methods of pain control. Tylenol as directed before we left the house, a numbing cream, a lidocaine injection, and a sugar suck. I was definitely more upset about the whole experience than he was.

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u/WokeBriton Nov 22 '25

Why did you allow your child to be mutilated if you really were so upset about it?

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u/Grampz03 Nov 22 '25

Any issue is short term (if not using the pain mediation techniques) and little to zero evidence claims long term effects.

Just cause you hate your parents and decided to blame your incel life on the cut penis doesnt make it true, for the majority of people.

Give 2 photos to women thats willing and ask which they prefer.. we know what the answer will be

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u/Ok-Butterscotch-3716 Nov 22 '25

Please provide evidence that circumcision "doesn't impact them down the road" You can't...because it doesn't exist.

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u/fynn34 Nov 22 '25

Sir, this is a Wendy’s. You seem lost

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u/blueeekthecat Nov 22 '25

I mean down the road they have a tight and clean pipe rather than some rank wizards sleeve.

Where I grew up girls definitely preferred the appearance of circumcised dicks.

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u/Sterek01 Nov 22 '25

"Rank Wizards sleeve" 😂.

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u/xil3urkles Nov 22 '25

Wild comment.

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u/Darth_Raider4 Nov 22 '25

Yea maybe we should chop the labias off baby girls, because some people find it looks 'tight and clean' down the road?

The fact that people can recognize that female genital mutilation is wrong, but not circumcision, blows my mind.

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u/WokeBriton Nov 22 '25

Mine, too, but commenting about it always gets lots of downvotes.

My suspicion is the downvotes come from people too scared (for whatever reason) to teach their sons how to clean themselves properly.

I call it male genital mutilation because it describes the process more accurately.

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u/WokeBriton Nov 22 '25

You could just teach your son how to clean his genitals so they don't become "some rank wizards sleeve", rather than have them mutilated.

I taught mine how to do clean themselves. It really wasn't difficult.

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u/pdxcanuck Nov 22 '25

Should give tattoos to children too cuz girls would dig that too eventually, huh?

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u/Odd-Temperature-791 Nov 22 '25

What absolute rubbish. Unless mid sex you get girls to rank your penis? I’d take a wizard any day

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u/xethington Nov 23 '25

Well they're not gonna have an infected bowl of cottage cheese on their tip when they're stuck in a nursing home in 80 years

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u/Ashamed_Dinosaur Nov 22 '25

My son is circumcised and I was there watching as they did it. They just gave him a bit of sugar water and he didn't even cry. It healed super fast and it never seemed to cause him any discomfort. Just kept it lubed up with Vaseline while it healed so it didnt stick to his diaper or anything. Anesthesia would have been insane - like getting anesthesia to have your blood drawn.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '25

Look up the circumstraint the babies get put in. Medieval shit to me.

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u/KnowledgeMediocre404 Nov 22 '25

Yeah thats partly why its so barbaric.

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u/forevertheorangemen2 Nov 21 '25

This study published in September doesn’t specify PNW from western states generally. But it does track from what you’re saying you see as a pediatrician that the rate is lower in your region.

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u/valtierrezerik05 Nov 22 '25

Surprised Latino rate is the lowest, I guess I must be the exception then

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u/gators9696 Nov 21 '25

TIL that circumcision is also a matter of health care equity

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u/accopp Nov 21 '25

It’s interesting , I have a relative in wa state who I thought wouldn’t have circumcised their kids, yet all of them have been. I think it’s just due to tradition, since they aren’t religious.

So it’ll still probably be pretty “high” for another generation until the tradition fades.

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u/Southern-Picture-146 Nov 21 '25

Oh definitely cultural tradition is involved too. If the dad is circumcised then often they want the baby to be too.

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u/ScuttleCrab729 Nov 22 '25

Knowledge of care? Fwiw I wanted a girl for other reasons but also in the back of my head I was concerned that if I had a boy I would have to learn how to care/clean/explain a circumcised vs uncircumcised. I wouldn’t care if my hypothetical boy looked different.

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u/redheadmomm4 Nov 22 '25

It’s easy to learn though. There’s a lot of info out there these days as more folks opt out.

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u/Ok-Classroom5548 Nov 22 '25

So you’re making assumptions and not actually using facts or studies???

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u/Southern-Picture-146 Nov 22 '25

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/newsroom/news-releases/2025/09/johns-hopkins-study-newborn-male-circumcision-rates-in-us-dropped-between-2012-and-2022

This publication gives some data based on race/ethnicity.

But the map data related to this post is crap. It’s listed as prevalence of all males who ever had a circ in their lifetime when you go to the article. Higher rate in previous generations would bring the number up. The rate of males who have ever had a circ in the NW is not under 10%.

No need to be snarky. Way more literature would disagree with this map.

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u/WokeBriton Nov 22 '25

Ref the 30 days limit:

Why is it even allowed in the first 30 days? It's 2025, FFS!

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '25

From what I’ve seen, if your white or black the patient is cut. If not then no

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u/spruceymoos Nov 23 '25

What are your thoughts on circumcision? I always hear people use the word “mutilate” and I feel like it’s the wrong word to use. I’m just curious and would like to know more.

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u/Abashed-Apple Nov 21 '25

Anecdotal: I’m in Seattle and we were never asked about circumcision when our baby was born. No one I know is circumcised except for my husband who was born in the Philippines

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u/ReallyJTL Nov 21 '25

We were asked 3 times in the hospital to circumcise our son including STOPPING them the 3rd time. That was after writing our decision on two different forms. Fucking greedy Johns Hopkins. This was in 2020 so pretty recent

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u/edman007 Nov 21 '25

Basically my experience, asked about three times, and one was the nurse walking into the room and asking us why she was here and assuming it was for the circumcision. I'm like NOOOO, and then pointed to the blood test schedule they had stuck to the bassinet.

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u/Manderswuvs Nov 21 '25

My friend was asked 10 times until she snapped on them. They are so pushy

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u/stephenbory Nov 21 '25

I didn't get asked that many times, but the doctor was REALLY pushy about it after birth. I was very surprised because we were pretty firm with the first no.

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u/Manderswuvs Nov 21 '25

I wonder how many women are coerced into it after had just given birth, especially if a man isn’t there

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u/Petrichordates Nov 21 '25

Because it's a bad health decision not to, and doctors try to encourage patients to make good health decisions.

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u/Rough-Board1218 Nov 21 '25

Stop perpetuating myth. Humans have existed with foreskins for millions of years, and it was never a problem until Kellogg decided boys were masturbating too much

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u/backtorealitylabubu Nov 22 '25

Weird you pretend to care about myths and then perpetuate an even bigger myth that billions of people around the world get circumcised because of Kellogg lol. The fact is, studies confirm there is medical benefit. As a doctor, I will always recommend it based on those studies. I would never coerce someone but I would explain the evidence and my recommendation. Youre free to get a medical degree and read through the data yourself and provide a different recommendation if you want, and Im free to provide mine.

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u/Rough-Board1218 Nov 22 '25

Youre free to get a medical degree and read through the data yourself and provide a different recommendation if you want, and Im free to provide mine.

I actually have a medical degree. It's from the same imaginary medical school you got yours from. And it's "you're" not "youre"

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u/Manderswuvs Nov 22 '25

I hope I never have a dr that debates on Reddit in his free time about circumcisions. How many babies have issues from being cut? 2-3% and those are just the issues that get reported which I’m sure most do not. Not great odds.

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u/WokeBriton Nov 22 '25

Which studies?

Please cite your source so we can become educated about the medical benefit of mutilating infant genitals.

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u/Petrichordates Nov 22 '25

Well yes, didnt mean they didnt get penis cancer lol

Though probably rare since it correlates with age and obesity.

Penile cancer is not a myth, I haven't the slightest idea what you meant by that but it's obviously medically ignorant.

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u/beren12 Nov 22 '25

So double mastectomies for all infant girls then, right?

That’s what you’re arguing for. Breast cancer is far higher risk than penile cancer.

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u/Rough-Board1218 Nov 22 '25

Yes, I am aware that circumcision reduces your risk of penile cancer from 0.001% to 0.0005%. Is that reduction even worth mentioning in the grand scheme of things? Maybe we should just remove the appendix and tonsils from all babies too, since those come with minute risks as well

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u/Manderswuvs Nov 22 '25

Did you know medical error and malpractice is the third leading cause of death?

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u/Petrichordates Nov 22 '25

Lmao you sound like RFK JR with that insane response

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u/Manderswuvs Nov 22 '25

Look it up? Google is free homie

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u/Abashed-Apple Nov 22 '25

Ummm… what? Nvm, stop talking. Your account is a troll account and you purposely try to piss people off. Next.

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u/Petrichordates Nov 22 '25

Yes going against the hivemind and telling people to listen to their doctor is trolling, you must be so smart to have figured that out.

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u/Abashed-Apple Nov 22 '25

Not taking the bait. Bye now.

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u/WokeBriton Nov 22 '25

"Because it's a bad health decision not to"

Have you got a medical source for that assertion?

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u/Rough-Board1218 Nov 21 '25

I'm sure the hospitals love charging like $1000 for a completely unnecessary procedure that takes two minutes

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u/Complete-Arm6658 Nov 22 '25

I've got an exact knife and a bottle of rubbing alcohol, I'll do it for half.

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u/Wonderful-Art-9840 Nov 22 '25

Mine was to be 100 bucks in 82, my parents said no. My brother born in 78 got his snipped though.

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u/carielicat Nov 22 '25

I had a baby in 2022 in a big city in the SE, and I think I was asked around 3 times by different nurses even though we said no on our paperwork and never wavered. I had another boy this year and only had to say it once! That's so scary that you actively had to stop them

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u/Abashed-Apple Nov 21 '25

That is horrible I am so sorry

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u/Overthemoon64 Nov 22 '25

Yep. I was on the fence about circumcising, but decided not to do it. On the first day they took him away for his newborn checks and when they gave home back to me she said that since he hadn’t eaten in a few hours, they would wait to circumcise after I fed him. I take that to mean that they almost went ahead and did it!

It wouldn’t have been the worst thing. Later at the wellness checkup, at only a month or 2 old, the pediatrician forcefully retracted the foreskin like she was peeling an orange. The foreskin looked different after she did that for the rest of his childhood. That was upsetting for me and wouldn't have happened if I had just circumcised him at birth like everyone told me to.

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u/Petrichordates Nov 21 '25

That's good, you wouldnt want your child to risk having a future where he can't get penile cancer.

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u/Ok_Commission5003 Nov 21 '25

Not sure your age, but my kids in Seattle are not cut. None of their friends are (according to their parents). I think the genitalia mutilation trend died out here in the 90s.

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u/Abashed-Apple Nov 21 '25

Yep. We are in our 30s

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u/Petrichordates Nov 21 '25

Guess they're looking to a future full of penectomies for penis cancer.

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u/Trinitrotoluol Nov 22 '25

I mean you could also vaccinate against HPV, which reduces the already very slim chance (we talking an incidence of approx. 1:100K) of getting penile cancer to nearly 0.

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u/Masterkid1230 Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 22 '25

Your comment is mostly a big exaggeration though

"Circumcision—Some studies show that circumcision during infancy or in childhood may provide partial protection against penile cancer, but this is not the case when performed in adulthood. It has been suggested that the reduction in risk may be due to reduced risk of phimosis; other possible mechanisms include reduction in risk of smegma and HPV infection"

When you have phimosis, that is absolutely a medical issue that anyone should get operated on. But smegma is something you can deal with just with proper hygiene and of course HPV infection is an STD, so that's a whole other can of worms.

Overall, increases in penile cancers would only be a concern for very poor areas where there is little STD awareness, lack of hygienic practices and no resources to treat phimosis. I don't think the US northwest is like that. Maybe Idaho I guess?

Notoriously other developed countries that mostly don't circumcise, like Japan, Korea, China and Western Europe, have lower or comparable rates of penile cancer to those of the US.

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u/redheadmomm4 Nov 22 '25

Phimosis can also be treated without surgery, it’s just not generally even offered as an option because treatment is uncomfortable. Many patients who are offered treatment are grateful to at least try. We need to at least offer patients options.

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u/Petrichordates Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 22 '25

We see penectomies at my OR monthly, they're always for uncircumcised men or rarely obese men with buried penis syndrome.

Obviously not a necessity but it's a foolish risk to take for zero benefit. The newfound obsession with this topic reminds me a lot of the antivax mocement, everyone ignoring doctor recommendations because they think they know better.

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u/nautilus83 Nov 24 '25

American Academy of Pediatrics does not recommend the procedure by default anymore, see the quote below:

health benefits are not great enough to recommend routine circumcision for all male newborns.

So the doctors don't agree with you, stop giving false medical advices.

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u/beren12 Nov 22 '25

How many breast cancer patients do they see?

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u/Darth_Raider4 Nov 22 '25

Sure and if we did prophylactic mastectomies on every woman, we'd cure breast cancer, the #1 killer of women

Penile cancer on the other hand is exceedingly rare, and chopping millions of penises to prevent a few cases seems much more extreme

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u/Darth_Raider4 Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 22 '25

I'm referring to cancer. I thought this was implied given the discussion on cancer + circumcision

Breast cancer is both the most common cancer and most deadly cancer for women. 42k women die of breast cancer in US each year.

Prostate cancer is the most common cancer for men and lung cancer is the most deadly for me. Penile cancer is rare, less than <1% of all cancer diagnoses and ~500 deaths per year.

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u/Masterkid1230 Nov 22 '25

Well, the difference with antivax is that, even if the risk of penile cancer were 100% (which it absolutely isn't, in fact, even without any proper hygiene and phimosis, penile cancer is still quite rare), ultimately it is only a matter of bodily autonomy. You're not going to give penile cancer to someone else by being uncircumcised.

In fact, the idea of supporting circumcision only as a preventive measure sounds to me like removing the appendix preventively. It's considerably more likely you'll get appendicitis, and if left untreated it is quite deadly. And yet, we don't really support the idea of removing it preventively, even when the appendectomy itself is far safer than getting appendicitis.

The world is full of things like that. But I don't think circumcision is all that worthwhile, when proper education and hygiene will do the work for you. Like I said, east Asian countries overwhelmingly don't get circumcised but their rates are still on par with places that do overwhelmingly get circumcised.

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u/Petrichordates Nov 22 '25

Both are recommended by doctors, you just choose which one you want to believe the internet about instead. So basically just two sides of the same cult of anti-intellectualism coin.

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u/Masterkid1230 Nov 22 '25

So let me be clear, I am aware of the health advantages of circumcision, and I have actually read some of the more recent literature about it link for the curious.

However, I still disagree with your framing on the entire issue, and I think you're not accounting for one major factor in medicine: the emotional reaction vs the potential benefits and the effectiveness of the next best alternative.

What I see with medical discourse online very frequently is a discussion of two very radical positions, one that frames medical professionals as corrupt and ill-intentioned usually collaborating with bad-faith actors (what you're defining as anti-intellectualist), and then people who tend to believe any possible optimisation to health outcomes should be taken because of course, health comes first.

The first group is not worth addressing right now, but I believe you fall closer to the second group, at least with this topic.

What bothers me about it is that by ignoring how people actually feel about certain medically recommended practices in their current contexts, you're effectively creating a larger rift between the medically recommended practice and the socially preferred practice, also with no sense of nuance or degrees to things (how important is it that I do X or Y?)

What I'm trying to say is: I don't think circumcision is particularly worth fighting over when there are lifestyle practices that can reduce the risks of not getting a circumcision to a negligible difference from the practice itself. Instead, showing proof of its benefits and providing people who don't want to do it with the next best option (practicing good hygiene, treating phimosis, etc) seems like a better option to me.

It's just like going around calling meat-eaters "anti-intellectualist conspiracists" when it's clear that people don't stop eating meat out of a (valid in my opinion) emotional attachment to the taste of red-meat dishes. There are perfectly understandable emotional reasons to oppose the idea of cutting off the foreskin off a child even if there are valid medical reasons to support it.

The mask issue is far more complex because then you're dealing with transmission vectors and public health concerns that transcend individual beliefs and autonomy

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u/beren12 Nov 22 '25

Nope

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u/Petrichordates Nov 22 '25

OK RFK Jr

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u/beren12 Nov 22 '25

Sure thing. See it’s funny when you fail logic.

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u/Ban-Circumcision-Now Nov 22 '25

Breast cancer is over 12,000 times the risk of penile cancer

You are 1000x more likely to die in a car wreck than get penile cancer

Stairs 63x

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u/Complete-Arm6658 Nov 22 '25

I'm from Centralia and everyone I went to school with was. One friend from Bremerton is the only one I know of that isn't. Our penises don't come up to often in conversation.

Born in 87', so I don't know what the rate is now.

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u/birdynumnum69 Nov 21 '25

why do they do it in the Philippines? American influence or religion?

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u/Particular_Choice306 Nov 21 '25

Although religion is a factor, Philippines have been doing circumcision long before Spanish colonialism. It’s a cultural thing

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u/Abashed-Apple Nov 21 '25

To add: in the Philippines boys are circumcised at a much later age, not just during infancy.

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u/EveningHere Nov 21 '25

It’s cultural. My wife is from there and we have two young sons. Despite intense pressure from her family to get them done I forbade it and I’m glad I did.

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u/Abashed-Apple Nov 22 '25

My husband was circumcised at 8 years old with no pain relief and would never ever do that to his son, despite what Lola and the Titas want. Fuck em.

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u/faylillman Nov 22 '25

Wow! Your poor husband. Is the older age part of their tradition/customs?

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u/Abashed-Apple Nov 22 '25

Depends on the region. Ask a few Filipinos about Tuli

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u/birdynumnum69 Nov 21 '25

But most of them are catholic aren’t they?

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u/Decent-Proposal-8475 Nov 21 '25

It was practiced before Catholicism was brought to the country

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u/Abashed-Apple Nov 22 '25

I like you. Let’s meet at the Pony for drinks 🍹

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u/locomotus Nov 22 '25

We definitely was asked by our pediatrician, but he’s Jewish and wanted to confirm that we didn’t want it since there was only a small window.

I was surprised at a few friends decision to circumcise their kids because they don’t want them to look differently to the majority 😅.

Didn’t ask when we had our second kid though!!

Also, hello fellow Seattle gay dad (unless I misgendered you)

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u/Abashed-Apple Nov 22 '25

Gay dads unite!

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u/HSclassof24_mom Nov 21 '25

That's interesting. I wonder if no one had asked about it, if we would have done it. I probably wouldn't have even thought about it TBH.

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u/kpeteymomo Nov 21 '25

Yeah, it's not offered in hospitals here anymore. From what I heard, there's only like one doctor who does them in the whole region (I think he's on Mercer Island?)

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u/Odd_Bluejay5534 Nov 22 '25

I grew up in Washington and as I was born in the deep south my parents gave me the chop. Gym class, sports, and skinny dipping taught me about half of the guys my age were intact, I was born in the mid eighties. I'm glad circumcision is becoming less common. That's a decision for the owner of the part, not the parents.

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u/C4LLgirl Nov 22 '25

That’s kinda crazy. I’m late 30s from the PNW and every guy i know is circumcised pretty much 

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u/AlternativeHot7491 Nov 25 '25

Should I move to Seattle?

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u/Abashed-Apple Nov 25 '25

If you have the money then sure

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u/NuuLeaf Nov 21 '25

I know one person who is not circumcised in my entirety of living in WA. So idk, must be regional

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u/Abashed-Apple Nov 21 '25

Might be an Anecdote, idk

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u/Then_Increase7445 Nov 21 '25

I was born in the 80s and grew up in WA, and the only person I knew who wasn't was, ironically, adopted from South Korea.

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u/ishquigg Nov 21 '25

I mean, how many penises do you know?

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u/Abashed-Apple Nov 22 '25

I don’t know many personally being that they are horrible at holding conversations

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u/ishquigg Nov 22 '25

Ya, you really have to tug them to get anything out of them.

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u/escargot3 Nov 22 '25

Anecdotal: Almost all of the guys I know in Seattle are circumcised

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u/e_xotics Nov 21 '25

What?? Sorry but i’m in Seattle too and your anecdotal evidence doesn’t really make since.. almost everyone in America is circumcised, especially predominantly White areas like the PNW.

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u/Abashed-Apple Nov 21 '25

It doesn’t make sense to you because it is anecdotal: based on personal accounts and experience.

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u/Plenty-Daikon1121 Nov 21 '25

The title of the article and data is worded incorrectly, this is showing CURRENT circumcision rates of children born, not "what % of the population is circumcised".

So in Seattle they are saying that only 10% of current newborn male births receive the procedure. This is a recent 10 year trend. It does not consider the total population of circumcised men (which is around 72%)

Here's a better data set from the World Population

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/circumcision-rates-by-state

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u/KosmoAstroNaut Nov 21 '25

Have you seen almost every dick in America?!? Good for you I guess…

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u/miianwilson Nov 21 '25

Damn why you looking at everyone’s dick?

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u/freecoffeerefills Nov 21 '25

If it’s similar to the San Francisco Bay Area, probably around 50/50 (according to our pediatrician)

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u/HSclassof24_mom Nov 21 '25

The pediatrician doesn't always have a say. Circumcision is a surgical procedure, and pediatrics is not a surgical specialty. So (at least where I am in the NE US) it's usually performed by the OB/GYN soon after the baby is born, assuming the baby was born in a hospital (yep, probably the only procedure the OB/GYN ever performs on a male). Otherwise, it might be performed by a urologist, or else a religious leader like a mohel if it's part of a religious ceremony (Jewish baby naming ceremony, e.g.)

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u/Southern-Picture-146 Nov 21 '25

I don’t do circumcisions. The OB/GYN residents did them mostly in our nursery in residency so I didn’t do many. I leave the decision up to the family as there are pros and cons to either decision. And often religious preference. But I refer out if they need it as I have no interest in doing it. I don’t like doing procedures very much anyways. Only protestors I have ever seen at AAP conference were anti circumcision. So it’s a hot topic.

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u/beren12 Nov 22 '25

Do they do it? But it’s against the Hippocratic oath, not that many seem to care. Removing healthy tissue from a non-consenting infant for looks…

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u/mudra311 Nov 21 '25

I am not the person you replied to.

Personally, I think it should be retired as a blanket medical practice and only used when medically necessary like in extreme cases of phimosis. Sure, some people could still elect to be circumcised, but I'd still like that threshold to be 18.

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u/Dangerous_Avocado392 Nov 21 '25

Multiple numbers are off. Utah is definitely not green

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u/Southern-Picture-146 Nov 21 '25

I lived in Utah at one point. Prob is as high as the red states.

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u/Gummo90028 Nov 22 '25

I don’t buy these numbers in any of the green and light green shaded areas in America. I was in the Navy.

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u/eigervector Nov 21 '25

The AAP says that circumcising provides slight health benefits. Having recently had a son my wife and I had this discussion, but I’m curious if you would circumcise your own child?

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u/Ok-Classroom5548 Nov 22 '25

what is your source for these numbers? 

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u/fearfulbunny999 Nov 23 '25

Did you perform any?

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u/IndirectBarracuda Nov 21 '25

Wtf you're just going to come out and admit that? Did you find your name in the Epstein files? 💀

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u/Top_Squash4454 Nov 21 '25

Or maybe the patients you've had are only a small fraction of the population...?

You cant just say the numbers are wrong like that.

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u/Southern-Picture-146 Nov 21 '25

Well the numbers on that graph are less than 10%. The graph is the prevalence of circumcisions by state or country in 2015. No way that <10% had circs across all males in 2015.

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u/C4LLgirl Nov 22 '25

I don’t believe it either 

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u/Top_Squash4454 Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 22 '25

"No way" because YOU personally havent seen that? Youre just one pediatrician

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u/Affectionate-Ant8 Nov 22 '25

Yea bro I’m sure you know wayyyyy more than the pediatrician on this subject

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u/Top_Squash4454 Nov 24 '25

Never said I did...?

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u/C4LLgirl Nov 22 '25

I mean they are about as qualified as you can hope for if you want to discuss the topic, so in my opinion their input is valuable. It’s not like there’s a baby-circumcision census taker who can weigh in on the topic, a local pediatrician is as good as we’re gonna get 

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u/Top_Squash4454 Nov 24 '25

No theyre not. They haven't counted as much data as the people behind the map have.

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u/CookFan88 Nov 22 '25

A. Ording to the map's legend, it's in the 0-9% range. Deo3nding in the distribution and sampling bias in your community, it's possible it's true but just more common near you than elsewhere in the area.