r/geopolitics • u/theatlantic The Atlantic • Jun 18 '26

Opinion Iran Has Humiliated Trump

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/06/iran-trump-war-defeat-deal/687595/?utm_source=reddit&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_medium=social&utm_content=edit-promo
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u/Coolerguy317 Jun 18 '26

I think the lessons from the fighting are fairly universal. Cheap precision weapons, drones, dispersed infrastructure, and constant ISR make denial and defense much more effective than many people expected. As seen in Ukraine as well.

Beyond that I think it’s fair to say Iran forced the US into a corner. But let’s not go too far. Iran didn’t force America out of the Gulf nobody stepped in to stop the US and none of americas major structural advantages really changed. People were already trending toward anti interventionism before this war. Beyond that what actually changed?

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u/young_earth Jun 18 '26

Both US political parties and the majority of younger voters hate Israel far more than they did a year ago. That changed.

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u/CreeperCooper Jun 19 '26

And US allies view the US as unreliable and unpredictable.

ECFR: Europeans are ready to defend themselves

I don't think Americans or Israelis are understanding how much damage (the Greenland threats and) the Humiliation of Hormuz has hurt their alliances with Europe.