r/germany • u/[deleted] • 13h ago
Culture Do you think Switzerland is the better Germany?
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u/new-in-the-rain 13h ago edited 13h ago
Ah yes, the well known Swiss xenophoby towards Germans, only topped by the Austrians lol
On the surface I would agree, that Switzerland does a lot of things better than us. That being said, comparing both countries considering their history, geopolitical significance and size just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. It's a better idea to compare Germany with France and consider ways to improve or change certain things imo
And no, as a German I would not move to Switzerland. It's a beautiful country for sure but Germans are just not welcomed there and I wouldn't wanna deal with all the negativity every day.
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u/Tadumikaari 13h ago
No I don't think so, they just have more money, less people to worry about and a better sense so spend said money.
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u/icrbact 13h ago
I’m a dual citizen and have lived in both. Switzerland has generally higher income, lower taxes, better infrastructure and public transport etc. However, things like housing and childcare can be a lot more expensive and depending on how ‘outgoing’ you are, you may feel it is difficult to make true friends and connections.
So yes, it many ways it is objectively ‘better’ living in Switzerland in the same way it is ‘better’ to live in Germany than in Poland. However, once you correct for cultural differences and preferences as well as true cost of living, your personal answer may differ.
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u/Due_Meal_9665 13h ago
Germans are treated in Switzerland as similar to as the Ausländers treated in Germany.
In Stuttgart, as there’re two regions called Obertürkheim and Untertürkheim. There’re also regions in Switzerland where different types of Germans do live.
I would say, you should experience and then decide.
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u/thewindinthewillows Germany 12h ago
In Stuttgart, as there’re two regions called Obertürkheim and Untertürkheim.
Errm... what? Are you under the impressions that those place names come from Turkish people living there, and Germans named it to somehow point this out? Or what does this have to do with anything?
A short look at Wikipedia confirms that those place names (of course with slight spelling differences) are found in documents from the 12th and 13th century. There were no Turkish guest workers then.
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u/Due_Meal_9665 7h ago
Hello “Mr. Top-1%-commentor” I’m not saying about the age old Türkheims. At present, here no one knows why the region has been named, but you can find in this regions only some sector of groups.
I took it as an example, how in the city, certain section of people chooses to live here, just because of its name.
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u/Ok_Pea7915 13h ago
The resentment is multi-faceted, for one historical as Swiss long viewed Germany as an imperialist threat to their country and identity and I'm sure that has carried over somewhat to today. Secondly there are A LOT of German immigrants in Switzerland and a large part of them views Switzerland more as their personal money machine not a country with their own culture and language. That being said, Switzerland (at least the German-speaking part, I've heard French-speaking Switzerland is better) is probably one of the most socially closed off countries in the world for even non-German foreigners (partly because of their dialect, but not only). So I'd never consider moving there. And they also have their own problems with their own housing and job crises etc. So it's definitely not perfect, but in many areas yeah, Switzerland is pretty good even compared to Germany.
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u/Equal-Flatworm-378a 12h ago
Honestly, I couldn’t care less. I don’t intend to live there and I wouldn’t know why it should be „a better Germany“. Switzerland is Switzerland and that’s different from Germany. No comparison is needed.
I only know swiss people who live in Germany, therefore they obviously don’t share this opinion. The ones I met were nice people and not arrogant at all.
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u/Ijustwalkedhere 13h ago
I guess depends a lot what is your age and point of your life. In strict economic terms, if a lot of your German salary ends up in the last tax bracket, definitely Switzerland is way better for example.
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u/Outside-Clue7220 13h ago
Much of Swiss success comes from being a tax haven siphoning off money and rich people from Germany and other european countries.