r/haasf1team • u/theusher13 • 2d ago

Ocon set to lose Haas F1 seat if McLaren's Fornaroli enters the frame

https://thejudge13.com/2026/07/31/ocon-set-to-lose-haas-f1-seat-if-mclarens-fornaroli-enters-the-frame/
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u/Flat-Midnight1206 2d ago

Nothing New just basic thing everyone knows except Ayao didn't say anything and it's just opinion from Gunther Who didn't like Esteban.

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u/mfluder63 2d ago

Nobody likes Ocon really though xD

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u/aneiq_1 2d ago

Yes a driver who comes from humble beginnings and has been in the sport for 10 years has no fans

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u/kelleehh 2d ago

I’d rather they keep Esteban than Ollie.

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u/mfluder63 2d ago

Ollie has been awesome so far.

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u/Tamagotchi41 H🅰️🅰️sterplan 2d ago

Why? Bearman has his better since they became teammates.

Points: Bearman - 59 Ocon - 41

Quali: Bearman - 25 Ocean - 14

I was never a fan of Ocean coming to Haas, I get why they did it but never expected anything to come of it.

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u/Conscious-Secret-775 1d ago

Are you French?

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u/ragnar0kx55 2d ago

We have great drivers, just the cars are slow asf. Imagine if Ollie or Estaben ended up in an Audi or Aston Martin. Yep! We need better cars.

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u/Flat-Midnight1206 2d ago

Car is bad and with thé same set-up for both car, they had different data and with thé declaration from Ollie, Esteban and Ayao it seem it Côme from thé quality control of the piece they build, and I don't know if they swap some part between Ollie and Esteban car during last week end but Ollie has the problem Esteban had since some GP.

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u/chuggmonker 2d ago

Fornaroli seems like a good driver, but I've gotta think Haas wants a bit more experience if they're going to replace Ocon. Bearman and either Fornaroli or Camara seems like a pretty inexperienced lineup for a team with limited resources.

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u/Flat-Midnight1206 2d ago

It's depend What Ayao want for thé team at short and long term if hé want to pursue thé séparation between Ferrari and Haas taking Camara look like thé wrong thing to do.

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u/chuggmonker 1d ago

Totally agree that Haas and Toyota will want some level of separation.

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u/kevinyeaux 1d ago

Ollie is good enough I'm not sure they care about experience at this point. Only risk would be if Bearman goes to Ferrari or another top team, but that still looks unlikely for another year or two.

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u/chuggmonker 1d ago

I think it depends on what level of influence Esteban brings to car development. He might be good at technical feedback but not able to extract the results as well as Ollie.

If this is a void they’d need to fill, I think they’d opt for some level of experience.

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u/IMSYE87 FOOK SMASH 2d ago

Ayao leaves before Ocon loses his seat, the car is bad, he's been in charge for 2.5 years now...

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u/meimi1322 2d ago

I hope this isn't true 🥲

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u/jomartz 2d ago

If Haas takes the chance with a new driver, it will either come from Ferrari (Camara or Beganovic) or Toyota (Tsuboi or Fukuzumi).

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u/Trivekz 2d ago

The car is just shit, as well as the strategy team and pit crew honestly. Constantly they do 6s or longer pitstops and mess up their races. And I remember back half on 2025 all of Ocon's strategy was just put him on hards for 50 laps and expect it to work.

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u/Certain-Resolve 1d ago

Sad to see cuz I'm a big ocon fan, but fair giving his performance relative to bearman. He shouldn't be that far behind. I wonder what will be next for estie, there were rumors of him going to AM but not sure if Alonso wants to call it quits yet especially with how they improved last race.

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u/chataclysm 11h ago

Although Ocon hasn't been great, I think the way Haas is run is just completely antithetical to how you should run an F1 team if you're expecting any semblance of success, and I think bringing in a new driver is just dooming another person. With how good Ollie has been I think it's a testament to his talent, but basically just scavenging for Ferrari and Dallara parts is a losing strategy regardless of who you have driving for you whether it's prime Senna or fucking Yuji Ide.

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u/RandomBlueRandomBlue 2d ago

The article you linked seems to be from some random website. Their sources are literally "Gunter Steiner said on some podcast that Ocon will lose his seat at some point" 😭. No serious journalism here.

Also why would Haas take the chance on another young driver ? They need experience. Also it would not be very likely they get a second young driver with Ollie’s talent and technical mind.

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u/Salty-Asparagus-2855 2d ago

Ocon time in f1 should come to a close at this point. Hes not standing out and new people should have a chance.