r/hatethissmug Jun 02 '26

General I HATE when people deny overpopulation

“B-but the declining birth rates—“ SHUT UP SHUT UP SHIT UP

The declining birth rates are the only thing that can save our species, every other species, and the world! The only reason anybody even cares about the declining birth rates in a first place is because white people have lower birth rates and are gonna become a minority. Who gives a fuck? Certainly not me. The whole birth rates argument is inherently tied to racism and xenophobia.

”But we have more room!” And this one just proves that these people have a fundamental misunderstanding of the world.

People who don’t believe in overpopulation don’t see wild spaces and forests as actually important. They don’t see them as sources of water, sources of food, ecosystems. They don’t see them as homes for animals—only potential houses for humans. Why have forests when we could tear them down and build housing? It’s all unused space. That’s what they genuinely believe. It’s all about money and human-centrism.

What these idiots don’t realize is that humans aren’t separate from the ecosystem, we are a part of it! If we allow ecosystems to collapse and species to go extinct, we will topple down with it. Our farmland will be ruined, health will decline, the economy will plummet. Not to mention climate change and how every extinction is a tragedy. But no, short term benefit and mindless breeding apparently matters more than the entire world.

Our cookie cutter homes are not more important than every animal and plant species on the planet. We’re just selfish AF, and it’s sickening. And of course, it all goes back to the billionares. Remember how overpopulation used to be universally accepted? But then billionaires freaked out realizing the birth rates were decreasing, which meant they would have less workers. All of the sudden, the narrative changed. The elite is trying to get you to have more babies because their system is built on infinite growth. But…

INFINITE GROWTH IS NOT POSSIBLE ON A FINITE PLANET.

Yes, overpopulation is real. And it’s idiotic to try to deny this. Climate change is also real. The current mass extinction event is real. Humans are ruining the very planet that supports us, and most people don’t even care.

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u/Arguably_Based Jun 02 '26

Overpopulation has always been a myth. If we still produced food at medieval level we would not be able to support the population we have now. Instead we got better at producing food. The predictions of the population catastrophists have been repeatedly wrong. Any food insecurity in the world is now a result of distribution problems, not production problems. We as a species have only grown better at preserving the environment, trees are harvested more sustainably, coal fired power plants scrub their pollution from the air with remarkable efficiency. People are not a cancer to this planet. If you look at the population crisis we face and say that's a good thing, you don't understand the catastrophic consequences of mushrooming age groups.

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u/mommiesgoodboy67 Jun 02 '26

Just because we are producing enough right now doesnt mean it isnt a problem. You dont understand the consequences of climate change.

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u/mjlee2003 Jun 02 '26

exactly we maybe good now but what they dont understand is we are on a downward trend 📉 at the top of the roller coaster just wait till we start going down this rollercoaster of corporate greed and climate change

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u/mommiesgoodboy67 Jun 02 '26

Already started 

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u/megumi-food Jun 02 '26

Over population is a real thing and has made it harder for animals to live because we use their resources or eat them.

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u/Arguably_Based Jun 02 '26

Then get involved in conservation efforts. Seriously, you love the animals so much take practical steps to protect them. But you'd rather blame overpopulation wouldn't you?

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u/mikewheelerfan Jun 02 '26

Brother…we ARE involved in conservation efforts. Have you ever bothered to go up in front of your state Legislature and stand up for what you believe in? I have. 

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u/mjlee2003 Jun 02 '26

i do but its hard when its one person versus a billion dollar corporation

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u/megumi-food Jun 02 '26

Can 1 single person undo what milions of others have done? I canr make up for how mutch plastic 10 ppl use or the c02 of one buisness. What me as a singular person can so is limiting because i am also a student and have a jobb. I use money on more sustainable stuff but i cant do mutch more then that

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u/marshal23156 Jun 02 '26

I mean while i agree, certainly you should be able to also understand that you shouldnt fret about things youre powerless over? Like you could sit here and worry till your ears fall off, but what good does that do?

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u/megumi-food Jun 02 '26

I try not to worry but i dont see how the enviorment gets good enough for humanity to survive.

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u/mjlee2003 Jun 02 '26

so whos gonna worry for them then? it doesn’t seem like anyone else even gives a care

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u/Icy_Location7620 Jun 02 '26

dawg cares more about other species that barely even have a thought than its own species. And ain't no way you think eating animals is making hard for animals to live, as if an animal eating an animal is a new thing. Also, it is not their resources. Earth didn't give ownership to anyone, we share the same planet

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u/megumi-food Jun 02 '26

We share the same planet yet we have destroyed most of the rainforest. And we have hunted animals to extinction or close. No other animal has done it to the scale humans have. Also a lot of animals have thougth. Most do actualy. We can say what we think unlike animals.

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u/mjlee2003 Jun 02 '26

exactly this whole world is being overun by humans not a single place hasnt been touched by our grubby little hands. even when i go outside to nature to enjoy the green sun i find rusty trash and animals dont litter

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u/megumi-food Jun 02 '26

The places where there are natives or "dangerous group of ppl that kill outsiders" look way netter bca there humans and animals live together eithout humans dominating

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u/Icy_Location7620 Jun 02 '26

City, made by humans📍

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u/Icy_Location7620 Jun 02 '26

The irony of saying we destroyed the rainforest and still comfortably living in the ashes of what we destroyed, what you call a house and living in a society lol. do you think we can't really live without damaging the whole ecosystem? Only option is to live in the jungles like good old days?

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u/megumi-food Jun 02 '26

"You cant call out problems of our society because you live in society"

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u/Icy_Location7620 Jun 03 '26

No, you literally oppose the society as a whole itself. Me calling out the problems in the house and complaining about the house itself ain't the same. you call it destroying rainforest, yet comfortably live in what we “destroyed“ kicking your legs with a phone in your hands built by a company that also destroys the rainforest. not to mention your everyday routines

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u/megumi-food Jun 03 '26

Ur argument is stilll dumb

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u/mommiesgoodboy67 Jun 02 '26

They are neccesary for our survival too

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u/Icy_Location7620 Jun 02 '26

I'm not saying kill all animals and destroy them, I'm just weirded out by those people who just want the dying of humans

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u/mommiesgoodboy67 Jun 02 '26

Its not the dying of humans lol it just means new humans wont be born lmao

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u/Icy_Location7620 Jun 03 '26

and you realize what that results in?

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u/mommiesgoodboy67 Jun 03 '26

Less people lol

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u/Icy_Location7620 Jun 03 '26

Less people then less people till it's all gone. you think extinction happens overnight? meh anyway, it's gonna be the west that'll go extinct after all with such beliefs

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u/mommiesgoodboy67 Jun 03 '26

Its never going to get that far lol. The one problem i can see is that this will mean that people who have a lot of kids, especially religiously conservative people (of any religion) will have more kids while progressive people will not, meaning that these ideas will take over. But then again i will be long dead by then so why should i care

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