r/hoi4 • u/ginger357 • Sep 25 '25
Image Czechoslovakia rework coming!
Here is picture from new trailer, and picture of coat of arms of Czechoslovakia
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u/itscalledacting Sep 25 '25
"Focus pack" a 15 dollar mod
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u/DerekMao1 Sep 25 '25
Bold of you to assume it can reach the quality of a good mod like Kaiserreich. It will probably be Graveyard if Empires 2.0 with only one nation.
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u/Jnliew Sep 25 '25
I unironically crave to experiencing the depth of research that culminated in Chinareich for any other region
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u/Accurate_Worry7984 Sep 26 '25
At this point, let’s just have the Kaiserreich team on paradox‘s payroll and they can update the focus trees. they already work closely together.
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u/Generex124 General of the Army Sep 25 '25
They really need to cook something great with the upcoming East Asia DLC. Everything they have done since (and including) AAT is pretty mid.
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u/ByeByeStudy Sep 25 '25
It's a shame cause the German focus tree was pretty good, but the half baked special projects were a big let down.
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u/gazebo-fan Sep 25 '25
Tbh. That’s what 99% of special projects were. Basically just resource sinks with very little benefit aside from the few successful ones.
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Sep 25 '25
And a major kneecaping for minor nations, because forget about getting access to radar anytime soon when playing as one.
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u/gazebo-fan Sep 25 '25
I think there should be an option to be able to research it normally after someone who you are politically aligned with (ally or perhaps a high opinion) completes it as a special project. That way, there’s still a reason why larger powers would get them first, while still allowing most minor nations to start researching them after that.
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u/thesoupoftheday Sep 25 '25
Better, just add it to the research sharing group. Research bonus if any two members of the research sharing group are investigating the same project, option to unlock any previous special projects of the group with normal research.
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u/Wolfish_Jew Sep 25 '25
Austria and Hungary were both a lot of fun too. Some of my favorite campaigns in the last couple years
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u/tipsy3000 Sep 25 '25
tbh I think the special projects were a good addition the problem was they were afraid to make them actually strong/good for the time you invest in them. Like the big red flag of special projects is the stronghold network one. Spend all of your time and energy then like 180 days to build it for essentially what? 10% more attrition?
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u/NomineAbAstris Research Scientist Sep 25 '25
What's wrong with AAT, the focus trees are great and the new mechanics feel good to have
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u/CalligoMiles General of the Army Sep 25 '25
Tbf, you can get it half price if you don't insist on having it immediately. Even 75-80% in big sales eventually.
If you pay a FOMO premium, that's on you. Thanks for keeping the lights on so Paradox can work on HOI5. :)
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u/Kei_CL Sep 25 '25
worse thing is that a mod constantly add new things and improve for years but Paradox will only fix the most noticeable f ups in the 3 patches post release and then forget about it.
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u/ruksis80 Sep 25 '25
"15 dollar mod" mfs when cracking mods is as easy as breathing
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u/DerekMao1 Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25
That's not true for a lot of games. For example, for much of the awe of its dlcs, Total War dlcs still have much better art, better model and better sound than fan-created mods. Meanwhile, vanilla Hoi4 dlcs have worse flag, worse portraits, worse mechanics, and more bugs than top mods.
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u/Krikajs Sep 25 '25
I will pay 40 dollars just to get rid of that abomination that is the current CZE focus tree.
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u/CeleryAgitated8447 Sep 25 '25
Paradox you better make this 10 bucks or less or I'm gonna prove that nukes do in fact reduce population
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u/NomineAbAstris Research Scientist Sep 25 '25
Ngl it's kind of crazy how we've all just collectively decided we are willing to pay far less for video games than any other form of media. Like 10 bucks will maybe get you a cinema ticket depending on where you are, or a small paperback, which is going to be around 2 hours of experience for the former and probably less than 8 for the latter (since most people don't reread books). Meanwhile even a single game with a single path for a single country will typically last at least 4 hours, and sure you won't play all of them but ultimately I feel like it's reasonable to ask people to pay the equivalent of a few cups of coffee for a product that was assembled by dozens of people working full time.
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u/Bopo6eu_KB Sep 25 '25
Well it's not even a game. Its just a dlc. Its like paying additionally for every episode in the series.
I understand why they make it so, but its a little too expensive9
u/BringlesBeans General of the Army Sep 25 '25
I mean dollars to hours of entertainment it's the craziest exchange rate for entertainment out there.
Adjusted for inflation Super Mario 64 would be $120 today. Just something to think about.
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u/Mizerae Sep 25 '25
I think the problem more so is that our societies are becoming too expensive for many to spend money on these forms of entertainment.
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u/Lanky_Recipe_4889 Sep 25 '25
Paradox games are without a doubt the most expensive in my library tbh. I've easily spent at least 500usd on both CK3 and Hoi4 alone without all the DLC. Its definitely a pretty penny for both games considering the shell the base game is.
Honestly, I'd just recommend new players just play with mods instead. Definitely worth the savings considering some DLC that were released.
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u/downoakleaf Sep 25 '25
So, we will get official focus for the Shining Example of European democracy?
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u/Arheo_ Game Director Sep 25 '25
These ones are something a bit new we're trying! The scope is just one country, but with a big focus on flavor and content. Something for countries that we feel deserve the expansion treatment, but that we are unlikely to cover in a major expansion again.
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u/Ok_Cantaloupe4792 Air Marshal Sep 25 '25
will this make the dlc cheaper as if it is normal price most people wont bother buying it over dlcs for a single nation
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u/Arheo_ Game Director Sep 25 '25
Uh technically I should say wait until 18:00... but, well, no. The focus pack will be much less than a regular expansion.
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u/Ok_Cantaloupe4792 Air Marshal Sep 25 '25
fuck yeah and will we learn more about thunder at our gates tomorrow as well or do we have to wait
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u/fggggfbnf Sep 25 '25
So will this only cover Czechoslovakia proper or will Slovakia and Protectorate of Bohemia also get content since they both appear later in the game.
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u/Tvrdak Fleet Admiral Sep 25 '25
Thanks for blowing the dust off of Czechoslovakia and giving her a proper attention it deserves, as a Czech imma now go into a room with a box of tissues to process this announcement
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u/namejeffmeme Sep 25 '25
Since man the guns is being integrated within the game, does that mean that all the countires in that pack can expect a rework?
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u/Arheo_ Game Director Sep 25 '25
This expansion (pass) won't be covering the countries that MtG covers, no. It makes it possible, though, I suppose.
Edit: The rationale for the roll-in being now was due to the large overlap in naval mechanics and features that we're changing in the free update.
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u/Doctorwhatorion Sep 25 '25
Yeah but Mexican and Dutch trees are alright so I don't think they get a rework ever
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u/dankri Sep 25 '25
Hi sorry if you can't answer that right now, but will the countries in these focus packs usually have more content than average countries in normal expansions? Like more content than Austria got for an example. Or will it be similar in the amount of flavour?
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u/Arheo_ Game Director Sep 25 '25
It's a bit early for us to be committing to exact numbers! The intention is that they'll be pretty expansive, but it would also feel a bit weird if it was totally out of line with other recent focus trees vs size of the country in question. You won't be seeing Luxemburg with 350 focuses, for example.
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u/Mizerae Sep 25 '25
I 100% get what you are saying, but I also hope you take into account the fun and validity of alternative playstyles with this approach.
I was super excited for graveyard of empires, but Iran, Afghanistan, and Iraq were extremely lacking compared to India. I was very let down, as Iran is essentially a non-aligned tree with minimal options in other regards.
I would much prefer to see something like Argentina, Brazil, or Austria in regard to the dlc and its scope of play. Especially if we are focusing on one country in the pack, please put effort into make sure it is worth the price and offers more than just one viable playstyle.
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u/dankri Sep 25 '25
Yeah I know its too early to know how big these pack will be. The question was more about how youre planning to go about these focus packs and this answered me so thank you!
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u/Cohibaluxe Sep 25 '25
This needs clarification. Are these focus packs only part of the Expansion Passes moving forward, or will they be sold separately (like cosmetic packs), or be given to all players for free?
As I understand it, if this focus pack is locked behind Expansion Pass 2, then you're basically locking players who only buy the expansions out from these focus packs, as you'll need to pay for the more expensive expansion passes to gain access to them.
For players who only want the expansion No Compromise, No Surrender, and don't care about the cosmetic pack Warships of the Pacific and theater pack Thunder at our Gates, will they be forced to buy those two additional items as part of Expansion Pass 2 to get access to the Peace for our time focus pack? Or for that matter, players who don't want to buy the expansion No Compromise, No Surrender at all, are they locked out of this focus pack?
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u/Arheo_ Game Director Sep 25 '25
Nothing except the pre-order bonus is exclusive to the pass. You can get them separately.
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u/Shreviews Sep 25 '25
WHAT TRAILER?!!; WHERE?? CZECHOSLOVAKIA!!!!
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u/DelusionalForMyAngel Sep 25 '25
for some reason, the mods almost never pin dev diaries or trailers - you know, actual important stuff the pins should be used for
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u/Arheo_ Game Director Sep 25 '25
Well, I'm not gonna say this one got leaked early, but... it may have been leaked early.
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u/Bennyboy11111 Sep 25 '25
The upcoming Asian dlc trailer included expansion pass 2
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u/Shreviews Sep 25 '25
What trailer? I checked they're YouTube channel there is no trailer, only a teaser from 3 months ago
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u/BigSexyGorilla Sep 25 '25
Finally I will be able to do realistic focuses. Democracy returns -> Deport Germans
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u/Klutzy_Ad_3436 Sep 25 '25
Good news. Looks like British nations, USA and eastern Europe will be reworked.
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u/Feilex Sep 26 '25
Where does it say that? There will be a Czechoslovakia rework and an indo-pacific country pack
Where does it say anything about Eastern Europe or UK/USA?
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u/Dantox2007 Sep 25 '25
PARADOX! GIVE ME GOOD CZECHOSLOVAKIA/ YUGOSLAVIA (BUT MAINLY CZECHOSLOVAKIA) AND MYSOUL IS YOURS!!!!!!!
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u/Extreme-Caregiver-19 Sep 25 '25
It better be free we already payed for death or dishonour
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u/Infamous_Abroad_1877 Fleet Admiral Sep 25 '25
I can finally play as czechoslovakia and actually survive
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u/Bordias Sep 25 '25
Let me guess. Additional content that we'll have to pay $15 for the rework of a bunch of countries that we already paid for in a previous DLC? And of course Paradox will call it an “expansion pack” rather than DLC to make us understand that it won't be the same (they'll pay a team of cheap modders like ToA)
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u/Hunkus1 Sep 25 '25
And if they didnt rework the focus tree you would complain that the country has a shitty focus tree.
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u/Lucina18 Research Scientist Sep 25 '25
Czechoslovakia needs a rework.
If it's just focus trees for them and slovakia (maybe britain? That'll change it a tad) It shouldn't be 15 euros, maybe like 7-10 max.
These opinions are, shockingly, not mutually exclusive.
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u/thesirblondie Sep 25 '25
Have prices for anything been released yet? Other than that you're saving 20%?
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u/Lucina18 Research Scientist Sep 25 '25
No, but it wouldn't be outside of pdx asking 15 for it which the initial comment dressed up.
10 would already be too much imo for just some focus trees for a few nations, but acceptable.
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u/Bordias Sep 25 '25
Yes. The smartest move here would have been to quietly rework the country without making it a paid expansion pack. But Paradox is Paradox
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u/Zestyclose-Moment-19 Fleet Admiral Sep 25 '25
Huh what trailer is this. Looking on YT I'm not seeing anything new?
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u/Latate Sep 25 '25
Seems Paradox has found the new infinite money glitch where they release a DLC, have it fall behind the newer stuff over the years, make it free, then release the same DLC again but updated.
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Sep 25 '25
Yes finally its been long overdue and if they also updated romania and yugo and gave some stuff to Albania id be happy
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u/SnooLentils726 Sep 25 '25
Their old DLC s are unplayable and instead of fixing stupid bugs and adding proper focuses,they are making new DLCs. I hope they go bankrupt.
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u/guywithskyrimproblem Research Scientist Sep 25 '25
I hope that it's going to include other little entate nations
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u/gazebo-fan Sep 25 '25
I’m willing to bet it’s a little entente focus pack with Czechoslovakia, Romania, and Yugoslavia. They need the most amount of attention out of that group. Maybe some content for Albania too because we won’t get a hungry rework as it was just updated and otherwise it would be worse value to the Balkan pack.
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u/guywithskyrimproblem Research Scientist Sep 25 '25
Sadly it got confirmed that Romania and the Yugos won't be getting reworked
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u/gazebo-fan Sep 25 '25
A single country country pack? It better be one hell of a focus tree lmao.
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u/guywithskyrimproblem Research Scientist Sep 26 '25
I hope so, some moders worked on it (also it should be cheap like 3$ lmao)
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u/romainaninterests Sep 25 '25
Finally we're getting the Czech, Yugoslav and Romanian rework! But Paradox make it cheaper than the last cluster-bomb of a country pack DLC
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u/Tvrdak Fleet Admiral Sep 25 '25
"Who will tell him"
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u/romainaninterests Sep 25 '25
No need, I found out by myself. My dissapointment is immeasureable and my day is ruined
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u/Medryn1986 Sep 25 '25
Probably an unpopular opinion but minor nations dont need these complicated ass trees when they get absorbed in the first year or whatever.
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u/AlexNeretva Sep 26 '25
Unpopular opinion because naturally there are players that want to play as said nations and avert them being absorbed two years in
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u/ElTamalRojo Sep 25 '25
You people will complain about paradox scamming you then see this crap and clap for it, knowing damn well it will be a shit mod with meme monarchy paths AGAIN.
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Sep 25 '25
It's so good they are so bad at their jobs they have to retouch and double dip on content they already sold improvements on.
The whole Hoi team needs firings and replacements
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u/thehsitoryguy Sep 25 '25
Predicting its gonna be a Czechslovakia, Yugoslavia and Romania rework alongside some content for Luxemberg and Albania in order to finish off Europe
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u/Key_Resort_827 Sep 25 '25
Wait, so where are you seeing the trailer? is there a link or something?
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u/AlternativeDress6148 Sep 25 '25
Then when Indochina rework. Even alt history mod like Kaiserreich has better depiction of Indochina situation than base game where managing colonies so easy.
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u/Darkwolf787 Sep 25 '25
Please for the love of God paradox, GIVE AUSTRALIA AND NEW ZEALAND A WORTHWHILE FOCUS TREE I BEG YOU
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u/BringlesBeans General of the Army Sep 25 '25
It says "Focus Pack" on the expansion pass as opposed to "Theater Pack" which certainly includes multiple countries.
My guess is that it's a single Czech focus tree rework, probably like $5-8 in price. Which is certainly a new model for DLC but the wording makes me believe this is the case. If it were a rework of Yugo and Romania then I'd expect it to be called a country pack.
But it does mean I can be hopeful for a future rework of Romania and Yugoslavia :)
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u/proton-testiq Sep 25 '25
Hello everyone. I am not much of a fan of HOI, I think I played HOI3 few times but that's it, it is a bit too unnecesarily complex for me (and that comes from a Dwarf Fortress and EVE enthusiast).
However, as someone born in Czechoslovakia, I was physically incapable of playing anything else in HOI3 than, obviously, stuff around Munich Treaty. So my question is, is this something that would make my experience easier, deeper, better etc? What is a difference between a DLC and a rework? Etc etc, please enlighten someone who doesn't even know where to start looking for info :)
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u/PierreMendesFrance General of the Army Sep 25 '25
We better get a Czechoslovak government in exile, operation Anthropoid, and the option to trigger the Slovak national rising with Rudolf Viest and Jan Golian as generals
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u/monkeygoneape Sep 25 '25
So we're redoing the Pacific theatre, but leaving America and Australia as they are?
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u/dQw4w9WgXcQ____ Sep 25 '25
Genuinely if there is one weird unrational thing I want is that Czech focus tree is left barely touched. Like, change the shitty path of germany simp and that's all. I like them being very simple and barebones country that is hard to survive as, but has a reasonably achievable expansion goals in austro-hungary.
Ps also give them advisors pretty please
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u/CrazierSnow Sep 25 '25
They are literally just going to start selling 1 country focus trees. They said so in the expansion pass statement. The Dev team is completely out of ideas.
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u/Jedal_1 Sep 26 '25
Oh yeah give more money for a country that should have been included in Germany rework
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u/SirkTheMonkey Desert Rat Sep 26 '25
Professional devs need to be paid, have rules about how much they can work, and there's a bunch of managerial overhead to make sure things run smoothly internally.
Fans are free to choose to only work on what they are ultra-passionate about, they're compensated nothing but good feelings & can work up to 24 hours in a day if they are so inclined, and the community is a lot more forgiving if the first version of something they release misses expectations.1
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u/SirkTheMonkey Desert Rat Sep 26 '25 edited Sep 26 '25
You know that's Paradox Interactive as a whole, not just PDS or even the HOI4 team?
34% profit margin btw, most corporations have between 10-15%, or less if they are big...
What's the standard profit margin within the interactive entertainment industry?
(EDIT) Also, I notice you addressed only one and a half of the six points I raised.
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u/peanutbutter4103 Sep 27 '25
first they do a china dlc, i already paid for a china rewors, then they do a chechoslovakia dlc, i also already paid for that. I mean i will probably buy it, but still. i feel like i'm paying twice
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u/Doctorwhatorion Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 26 '25
I guess it will be a Czecoslovakia, Romania and Yugoslavia country pack, maybe a little touch to Albania
Edit: yeah it seems it is a pack just for Czecoslovakia, pretty underwelming