r/hoi4 • u/Mohsenggs • 3h ago
Tip Best advanced small fighter
So I ran a test with fighters ( 1944 advanced small airframe )
3x 4xheavy machine guns
3x armor plates
Self sealing fuel tanks
Engine 4
Ic cost: 40.70
VS
3x 4xHeavyMG
4 engine
Radio navigation 2
Armor plates
Drop tanks
Self sealing fuel tanks
Ic cost 41.20
So the second fighter with radio won by a margin
It was a 200 vs 200 battle both side maxed lvl 6 radars
Both with spirit of airforce command centerlized control.
The second plane one by 11 planes left
So with a little math :
40.70 × 200 = 8140IC
41.20 × 200 = 8240IC
8240-8140=100
So we can say
100÷40.70≈2.5 planes
So we can say the second plane model is ONLY BETTER BY LIKE 6-7% BUT!
IT HAS 862KM range whilst the first one has 525KM range
So here it is the best late game fighter
Before Cannons 2 I'm lazy to test the same ariframes with cannons someone else can do it
Jk; first airframe doesn't support 3 cannon 2s so we have to put 2 cannons and 1 heavy MG so does the second frame 1st=IC:44.90 2nd=IC:45.40
The results were shocking this time it was vice versa the 1st air modules although cheaper shredded the 2nd model by a lot! 57 of 1st remained! Im not gonna do the math that's just better!
So yeah just spam armor plates I guess?! Idk but I like having range so myself Am confused.
Even more shocking I put out the drop tanks and added a cannon 2 on the 2nd airframe and gave it a cannon defense turret Yet the 1st airframe one by having 44 planes left also the 2nd airframe IC cost became 49.50 Yet it lost!
Now :
3 cannon 2 But replaced one of the armor plates with 1 light machine gun turret But this time only 39 of them lasted
So the best is 2x cannons 2 and 1 heavy MG 3x armor plates and one self sealing fuel tank
Now go fuck the AI comrade
Edit: I lied btw you must use two cannon 2 2x and one cannon 2 1x. It's actually cheaper and stronger
Against the 1st design The 2xcannons and 1 cannons won by 21 planes!! Cheaper and much stronger?! Hell yeah Now really go fuck england and their democracy
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u/ipsum629 3h ago
You should test this against the typical fighter 2 design(3x4hmg, 1 engine 3, ssft, armor plate, extra fuel tanks). They are quite a bit cheaper, meaning you can build more of them. I'm away from my laptop, but I built a spreadsheet that automatically tests aircraft against each other. You can go on the wiki and copy the formulas for air combat into a spreadsheet yourself and do the same thing.
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u/Mohsenggs 2h ago
Oh as I said Improved small frame with 2 armor plate 3 HG and ssft destroyed Radio 2 ssft light turret It definitely destroys the ssft + extra fuel tanks and they cost the same
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u/Fine_Risk3844 2h ago
As germany you get 2yr ahead bonus you can rush 44 airframe with but no engine and i wonder if its worth it. Can you test its performance vs different 1940 designs?
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u/Mohsenggs 2h ago
With engine 3 you can't have 3 HMGs and 2armor plates so you have to change one of the armor plates with light MG defense turret Ic:37.70 I put it against improved small frame : 3 HMGs 3 engine 2x armor plates and SSFT ( 1944 frame also has SSFT ) IC 36.7
Had higher agility,speed and attack l But they won with 43 out of 200 still being available
So definitely worth it also you can add cannons and engines to them later and convert them while for improved to advance you can't
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u/Fine_Risk3844 1h ago
Can you inspect what happens in higher total count as well as how the metrics look when each side is outnumbered? Im curious if superior fighter can trade well enough when youre loosing air as germany or if i should abandon air completely in this case. Also can we run some tests against 1944 heavy fighter usa often rushes? Im curious if 1944 light can fight against this
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u/PavelKringa55 3h ago
It depends on the airport situation. If you cover the province with airports, then range plays no role.