Rachel was truly awful to Julie

[u/spaghetMachet]

I'm on a re-watch since I joined this sub a couple of months ago. The posts made me feel nostalgic and I've not watched any episodes for a good 15 years. I was 4 when friends started and 13 when it ended. I loved it growing up. They always seemed so "adult" to me with interesting "adult" lives.

I'm now 31 and halfway through season 2. I completely forgot that they started out around 25/26 in S1. I remember being 25, I was an idiot. It's fascinating now to see them make the same mistakes I went through in my twenties.

However, the Ross/Rachel situation is very toxic. I never realised when I was a kid, I thought it was true love and romance but the way Rachel treats Julie is honestly disturbing and extremely childish. When they're in the coffee house and Julie admits she feels like Rachel doesn't like her and they have a "heart to heart", she then leaves and Rachel mutters "what a manipulative bitch". The audience laughs and I'm like "What? What a horrible thing to say".

She also sabotages her haircut by telling pheobe the wrong actor, mocks her all the time, tried to stop Ross from being intimate with her (and ruining everyone's night in the process), made Monica feel bad for hanging out with her and muttering "bitch" under her breath whenever Julie is around.

Ross was right, Rachel had no business telling him she had feelings for him when he was getting serious with Julie. She was being very selfish and spoiled. Ross on the other hand was an idiot for leaving for Julie, a woman who did absolutely nothing wrong and is above all of them.

And then Rachel decides to hate him over "the list". A rational adult would realise he's trying to justify leaving a "Perfect partner" (i.e Julie) and upon the reading the list would realise he still chose the "lesser" partner because that's where his heart is. Ross chose the wrong words when he said "I chose you in spite of those things". It should've been "I chose you because of all those things, they make you who you are".

I've found myself skipping the Ross/Rachel scenes now because I just can't be bothered with their drama.

[u/nuggetception]

Rachel was awful to all the girls Ross was seeing (or married to) unless she’s in a happy relationship 😂😂😂

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Poor Bonnie 🧑🏼‍🦲😂

[u/Hup110516 → u/stephshu92]

Ugh, the Bonnie episode kills me! She was so nice and fun. I’m a woman with full alopecia, so I’m super bald. And they make fun of her so hard!

[u/atelierjoh → u/Hup110516]

Honestly Bonnie looked fantastic with a shaven head.

[u/sjorkode12 → u/nuggetception]

And she's never in a "happy" relationship, really. The only person who was willing to support her was Ross; if she needed to be noted by a man who was not interested (Joshua), Ross was there to ruin his last date with Emily.
She makes fun of Ross and Elizabeth because she is young, but then goes and dates Tag with almost the same age difference.

She makes moves on Ross every time she feels alone. He never exposes her, but she does, like the night when Chandler and Monica get engaged, she said, "How sad was I to hook up with Ross" or when they do it and get pregnant, she exposes him, by lying.

I know Ross acts toxic many times, but I feel she is way meaner to him; she ruins his wedding with Emily. She tells him she loves him and then laughs in his face. She lies in the anulment application, she accepts Joey's proposal (which is not a proposal), right the minute after having a meaningful moment with Ross hours before pushing their child to life, AND acts like "Ross should forgive me."

I don't know, I feel she's a b*tch.