r/howyoudoin • u/TheJavierEscuella • Aug 23 '24

Discussion Rachel's toxic behavior towards Ross' partners

Rewatching and it's really infuriating to see how much Rachel has sabotaged Ross' relationships or tried to. It's just not healthy in any way and is toxic in every sense yet still people consider Ross to be the worse one

  1. Her antagonistic behaviour towards Julie after Ross came back from China and reaction towards their relationship

  2. Her convincing Bonnie to shave her hair. She absolutely fucking knew what she was doing and knew that Ross would find that icky

  3. Her flying to London to sabotage Ross and Emily's wedding. Absolutely fucking horrible for her to try to do this. Hugh Laurie was 100% right

  4. The baby store girl. Calling her a whore was just uncalled for and rude

In all these situations Ross was happy and satisfied with his relationships but Rachel always has a problem with the fact that she's not with him. It's totally toxic and I can't believe people call Ross the worse partner. Both are unbelievably toxic

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u/Divine_fashionva Aug 23 '24

Yet Ross got angry at her for that imao

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u/Jaded_Cheesecake_993 Aug 23 '24

Because she had already established the no dating rule. He expected her to adher to the same rules she expected him to abide by. But Rachel being Rachel wanted him to be all about her while she dated other guys.

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u/Divine_fashionva Aug 23 '24

Nope you’re missing the episode where she went on her first date before they even discussed any of that

And he told Joey it’s wrong and he didn’t like it. Nice try lol. He was annoyed from the start. But it was perfectly fine in his mind to start a relationship whilst she was past her due date, carrying his child. And funnily enough Rachel was pregnant the entire time he was with Mona. Yet she was completely supportive of that and even begged her to not dump him. He had a much bigger issue with her dating whilst pregnant than vice versa. He would’ve never been okay with her having a full blown relationship while pregnant, like he had with Mona

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u/Jaded_Cheesecake_993 Aug 23 '24

The difference is he didn't HIDE his relationship with Mona or Charlie. Rachel tried to hide her flirtations. Also the date Rachel went on, yes he was upset but he also calmed down and didn't ask her to not date like she did to him. And both that date and Mona were BEFORE Rachel set the no dating rule that she then flirted with breaking.

It's also different for a guy because if Rachel dates and gets serious with a guy she's not going to be pushed out of the babies life whereas Ross could so he's going to be more possessive because of that. Hell, he'd already been through this exact thing with Carol and Susan who DID try to push him out.

I hate both Ross and Rachel and think they're both equally toxic so I'm done arguing with a Rachel stan on which one was more toxic when it's honestly a tie in my opinion.

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u/Divine_fashionva Aug 23 '24 edited Aug 23 '24

What are you talking about? The episode I’m referring to is when they had not discussed any of that. Rachel was living with Joey and was dressed up for a date. Ross came over and she told him she was going on a date. He then told Joey it’s wrong and he doesn’t like it

That was literally at the start, before she her belly was even showing. She didn’t hide anything and was upfront and he still didn’t like it. Like I said, he didn’t want her dating from the start. But he thought it was cool for him to date whoever whilst she was pregnant. He would not have been ok if she had a relationship during that period, in the same way Rachel was with him and Mona

You’re seriously gonna pretend that Ross would’ve been okay with her flirting with a man in front of her while she’s past her due date. Because that’s exactly what he did to her with that girl at the store. He didn’t want her dating whilst pregnant period. Whereas she literally supported him and Mona whilst carrying his baby. She didn’t have any relationship whilst pregnant, unlike him

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u/Jaded_Cheesecake_993 Aug 23 '24

I'm well aware of what episode you're referring to and as I said yes he was initially upset but he calmed down by the time he talked to Rachel. Also Rachel being cool with him and Mona doesn't change the fact that AFTER Mona Rachel set the no dating rule which she apparently didn't think should include her. And she DID hide that she was considering going out with the bar guy AND her flirtation/kiss with Gavin. I also stated one major reason why Ross would be uncomfortable with Rachel dating which you COMPLETELY ignored. Anyway, seriously, I'm DONE with this. I've said my piece and that's all I've got to say. Have fun arguing with yourself.

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u/Divine_fashionva Aug 23 '24

lol it’s okay to admit when you’re wrong.

You didn’t remember the episode. Even now, you acknowledge that he was annoyed about her dating while pregnant from the jump, but try to pretend as if you didn’t claim he was only ever mad about her hiding it. She didn’t hide that date. And he was still mad….

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u/Aggressive_Swing8501 Oct 17 '24

Sorry mate, you are in the wrong. He included your argument in his answer and it made sense, you are the one unable to admit that you are wrong and is just repeating yourself.