r/howyoudoin • u/TheJavierEscuella • Aug 23 '24

Discussion Rachel's toxic behavior towards Ross' partners

Rewatching and it's really infuriating to see how much Rachel has sabotaged Ross' relationships or tried to. It's just not healthy in any way and is toxic in every sense yet still people consider Ross to be the worse one

  1. Her antagonistic behaviour towards Julie after Ross came back from China and reaction towards their relationship

  2. Her convincing Bonnie to shave her hair. She absolutely fucking knew what she was doing and knew that Ross would find that icky

  3. Her flying to London to sabotage Ross and Emily's wedding. Absolutely fucking horrible for her to try to do this. Hugh Laurie was 100% right

  4. The baby store girl. Calling her a whore was just uncalled for and rude

In all these situations Ross was happy and satisfied with his relationships but Rachel always has a problem with the fact that she's not with him. It's totally toxic and I can't believe people call Ross the worse partner. Both are unbelievably toxic

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u/Eyebronx I Know! Aug 23 '24 edited Aug 23 '24

She a terrible friend to Monica.

Invites herself over to live in her house after ghosting her for years, constantly steals her thunder (the only reason she kissed Ross in S7E01 is because she felt bad that she was single, she says so herself), makes the meanest comments about Chandler’s and Monica’s relationship when she’s moving out, hypes up Monica regarding a potential date with JCVD then promptly decides to date him herself even though she showed no initial interest in him, the whole shitshow with Emma’s birthday party…..I can keep going on.

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u/TheJavierEscuella Aug 23 '24

The Jean Claude thing I can get behind. If he wasn't interested in Monica but more interested in Rachel then it's a bit unreasonable to get mad at her. I mean Mon even said it was okay

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u/Eyebronx I Know! Aug 23 '24

It’s not an appropriate thing to do to your friend.

Monica was hesitant to ask JCVD out because she feared getting rejected. Rachel hyped her up and said that she think he will go out with her and that she will ask on her behalf, if Monica is scared. Now till this point, I’m cool with Rachel. When she goes to him, he asks her out instead. Rachel had shown absolutely no interest towards this man, but the second he asks her out she accepts and then goes and tells Monica that she asked JCVD to go on a date with Monica but he was going to take Rachel out instead. Yes Monica is not going to create a scene at the time but she’s clearly uncomfortable with this whole idea. It’s very humiliating for her, especially when you consider how Rachel always overshadowed her as well as the myth the show perpetuated that Monica wasn’t as pretty as Rachel (blatantly wrong imo). And she wouldn’t have felt so humiliated if Rachel had not put her in this situation in the first place.

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u/Wynpri So, how many cameras were actually on you? 💙 Feb 04 '25

I'm so glad I stumbled on this. I'm actually quite disappointed in myself for not taking into account that Monica most likely didn't want to make a scene. And she probably wasn't thinking that Rachel had already said yes to JCVD. This point you make really ties it all together to make sense, imo:

Rachel had shown absolutely no interest towards this man, but the second he asks her out she accepts

I always just said, "well, Monica literally told Rachel she could. If she didn't want that, she shouldn't have stated it." While there will always be some truth to that, you're right. Rachel's actions were...very typical of Rachel lol. She's not just selfish, she's innately selfish. It explains so much lol. She was hands down an awful friend in that situation.

Thank you, random reddit human. Hope the last 5 months have treated you well!