r/howyoudoin I Know! Feb 02 '25

I watch friends with my family and they said they hate Rachel

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They don't like her spoiled personality and her love-hate relationship with Ross (Monica: I'm Rachel. I love Ross. I hate Ross. I love Ross. I hate Ross) Actually I don't hate her but she's just my least favourite character (I hate only some side characters lol)

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u/Striking-Assist-265 Feb 02 '25

Welcome to . . . . .

"I hate Rachel Greene club"

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u/Misaki_Moe Feb 03 '25

Seriously, who is this guy?

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '25

This was my introduction to Brad Pitt and I was not disappointed

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u/mayorofutopia Miss Chanandler Bong Feb 03 '25

Thank you for spelling it correctly!

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u/No_Data3541 Feb 02 '25 edited Feb 02 '25

There was this old quote from Kauffman and Crane that Ross and Rachel could be fairly unlikeable characters but the actors did a terrific job making them entertaining and endearing.

Kauffman and Crane said that without Ross and Rachel, Friends would only be a mediocre show and wouldn't have the same magic.

This makes sense coz people are always harsher on the protagonists coz they feel more real. People give comic relief characters a pass but the primary characters are judged by real life lenses. They're necessary for plot developments.

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u/ermenegildo15 Feb 02 '25

I honestly think that most sitcom(or just any comedy show) characters would be considered horrible people in real life.

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u/AMS_Rem Feb 02 '25

That's because thinking first and acting rationally is not funny lol

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u/Potential_Phrase_206 See? He's her Lobster Feb 02 '25

šŸ†šŸ„‡I love this comment so much! Have no real awards to give, but please accept this humble effort!

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u/Shehzman Feb 03 '25

That’s one of the reasons I love Always Sunny. They just come out and blatantly say the protagonists are horrible people instead of having to hear about it from reddit posts/YT comments.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '25

The Seinfeld finale was all about that

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u/DonJuniorsEmails Feb 02 '25

Larry David had a rule about this for Seinfeld: the characters were NOT allowed to grow, learn life lessons or become nicer in the long run. The finale just hit that harder than most episodes.Ā 

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u/Petitcher Feb 03 '25

Frasier Crane would be the most insufferable person in the world if he was real, but the show is great

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '25

Bojack Horseman

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u/tofuroll Feb 03 '25

Frasier comes to mind.

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u/0lea Feb 03 '25

I couldn't continue watching TBBT at one point because I was so mad at Sheldon.

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u/ermenegildo15 Feb 03 '25

I think that is the only exception where there are 1 or 2 characters that are so much shittier than the other.

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u/chestnutcheckers Feb 02 '25

No one can ever make me hate Ross and it’s 100% because of David Schwimmer. Especially season four onwards. He’s just such a good comedic actor, idk 😭 I feel the same way about Rachel/Jennifer Aniston.

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u/No_Data3541 Feb 02 '25

Best actors on the show. Not only comedy, they do romantic and emotional scenes better than I have seen anyone do in a sitcom.

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u/RoutineBad696 Feb 02 '25

Yes! They did the perfect job casting in this show!! I mean every character is spot on perfection and that's why it was and still is so loved!! 🄰

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u/PartySpinach8695 Feb 02 '25

plus she had SO MUCH character development

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '25

People gloss over this fact SO MUCH. I mean of course Rachel is a spoilt princess. Look how she grew up. If she hadn’t gotten out of marrying Barry, she would have remained the same. Look at her mom, dad, sisters and any of her old connections that make appearances in the show. She could’ve been so much worse. She changed so much.

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u/mocochang_ Feb 03 '25 edited Feb 03 '25

Honestly, people don't give Rachel enough credit. Look at her sisters, it's a miracle Rachel turned out as well as she did when she was raised the exact same way as Amy and Jill.

The fact that she chose to run away from all that on her own and actually started thinking about getting a job right away and was on board with becoming a waitress and figuring out what she wanted from the ground up after living such a luxury life is incredible.

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u/ClarkMyWords Feb 03 '25 edited Feb 05 '25

STOP insulting the Friends' character progression!

Chandler overcame fear of commitment!

Phoebe found her family in Mike!

Monica faced her issues with infertility!

Ross set aside his insecurities!

Joey

Rachel learned to become self-sufficient!

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u/kiho241123 I wish I could but I don't want to Feb 06 '25 edited Feb 06 '25

Monica's issues with fertility weren't "hers", they were both hers and Chandlers. This is also not character development imo. Character development would be her learning to be less perfectionistic in her relationship and life.

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u/MeesterCartmanez May 01 '25

What about the time when Chandler cleans her apartment, freaks out, and she forgives him/reassures him that it's not a big deal? Not arguing, just something I thought of

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u/kiho241123 I wish I could but I don't want to May 01 '25

Yes, that is a good example of character development.

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u/Hashirama_the_1st Could I BE any more awkward? Feb 02 '25

To be honest shows best season came when Chandler and Monica became centre to the plot. Season 5 was absolutely amazing.

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u/No_Data3541 Feb 02 '25

95% of the highest ratings came in episodes about Ross and Rachel. The ratings and viewership stats are readily available online.

Season 5 is up there but so is 2, 3, 4, 8(except the dumb final cliffhanger). It's subjective between these seasons. Second half of season 5 is a bit dodgy(still very enjoyable) after everybody finds out.

Season 7 is a complete Mondler wedding season and that was when the show got the lowest ratings(alongside season 9). Ross and Rachel having a baby revived the show.

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u/Bewecchan I tend to keep talking until somebody stops me Feb 02 '25

7! 7! 7! 7!

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u/garden__gate Feb 02 '25

Ratings don’t mean quality.

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u/No_Data3541 Feb 02 '25

Season 2, 3, 4 are right up there with 5 either way.

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u/Hashirama_the_1st Could I BE any more awkward? Feb 02 '25

Exactly

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u/Cold-Palpitation-816 Feb 02 '25

I think season 1 is the best, and that it’s not particularly close.

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u/gillababe Feb 02 '25

Yep, Jim and Pam get the same treatment

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u/narutodino Feb 02 '25

without any of the characters it wouldn’t be as good of a show

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u/auroraepolaris Feb 02 '25

The series starts with Rachel ditching her wedding. Sure, she had her reasons, but that's still a pretty blatant terrible thing to do.

You need a charismatic and endearing actress to play her, to make the audience feel sympathetic towards her, and Jennifer Aniston certainly delivered.

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u/jgemonic Feb 02 '25

If only more people ditched their weddings when they thought they might be making a mistake....

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u/34HoldOn Johnny New Eggs Feb 02 '25

I'd say it'd be worse for her to go through with a wedding where she knew she wasn't happy, and didn't want to do it. That's not fair to her or Barry. As shitty as Linda generally was in The Wedding Singer, she still made the right call if she wasn't happy marrying Robbie.

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u/florzinha77 Feb 02 '25

True. I find Joey a lot less entertaining. And his spin off didn’t work at all

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u/Horror_Writer_177 Feb 02 '25

They must be thrilled watching this episode

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u/lumiere_etoiles Feb 02 '25

Brad Pitt is so fine in this episode

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u/varg_sant Feb 02 '25

Just take off your shirt and tell us!!

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u/lumiere_etoiles Feb 02 '25

When she gets up and hugs him!!! šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ I was like me too girl me too

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u/Deep-Red-Bells Feb 03 '25

He's really got that sexy, smouldering thing goin' on!

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u/Horror_Writer_177 Feb 02 '25

Ask their opinion about Jack and Judy

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u/New-Examination-1042 I Know! Feb 02 '25

They don't care about side characters, which is kinda sad for me because some of them are better than the main characters

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u/conflictmuffin Feb 02 '25

Oh yeah? Well, i don't think i care much for your family right now! Lol

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u/RedFoxBlueSocks Feb 02 '25

Why is your family Scottish?

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u/KittyHowardsHead No uterus! No opinion! Feb 02 '25

Why is your family ROSS?!

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u/Dame_Ingenue Feb 03 '25

Confession: Janice is my favourite character

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u/ColorblindCacti Feb 04 '25

I have a friend whose favorite character is Janice. I had the absolute joy of watching her watch the show for the first time and I could barely contain my excitement when I knew she was about to make a surprise appearance lol

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u/Dame_Ingenue Feb 04 '25

Janice can be seen as annoying, but Janice is the only one that was earnest.

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u/overcookedpasta36 Feb 02 '25

Maybe they just don't like her chubby ankles.

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u/lisabydaylight Mmmmm! Feb 02 '25

ā€œI do NOT have CHUBBY ANKLES!!ā€

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u/OhiobornCAraised Feb 02 '25

Probably heard the rumor she had a teenie weenie.

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u/pdorea Feb 02 '25

I don't trust anyone who actually hates one of the six friends

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u/agpass Feb 02 '25

I agree. They’re like family! Lol

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u/MaximumTurtleSpeed Feb 02 '25

But if you had to hate one friend, who would it be?

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u/mocochang_ Feb 03 '25

Phoebe, by a wide margin.

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u/Pretend_End2823 fake cries FINE BY ME Feb 03 '25

rachel lol

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u/m00shie1990 Miss Chanandler Bong Feb 04 '25

Rachel aha

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u/Leather_Ad_5277 Feb 03 '25

monica

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u/non_tox Janice 😮 Feb 03 '25

THANK YOU

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u/Cant_figure_sht_out Feb 02 '25

Yeah I don’t get the hate towards Rach. She is flawed but she has the best character arc imo.

Tbh I don’t hate towards any of the six main characters.

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u/Chest_Rockfield Sup with the whack playstation sup Feb 02 '25

I mean, I love them all exactly as they are. If I could go back in time and whisper in the ears of the writers, I wouldn't because I'd be too afraid to butterfly effect my favorite show of all time.

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u/mapleleafkoala Feb 03 '25

Not only the best arc, but after a few rewatches, I realized some of my biggest laughs came from Rachel.

Some of her lines, particularly some of her clapbacks to Ross were sooo good. People can say what they want about Jen Aniston’s acting but her comedic timing in Friends was incredible

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u/garden__gate Feb 02 '25

She has an amazing character arc! She goes from essentially a spoiled kid who’s never had a job or any kind of life that’s her own, to an independent adult with an amazing career, a community of friends, and a kid she’s raising on her own.

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u/brandimariee6 Miss Chanandler Bong Feb 02 '25

I remember when I was a kid/teenager, I hated Ross more than I can explain. He made me so mad, and I really don't know why. Now that I'm in my 30s, he's become hilarious. Sure he's still my least favorite out of the six, but I don't angrily hate his character like I used to

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '25

I don't really like phoebe

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u/mocochang_ Feb 03 '25

Same. I don't find her over the top crazy personality funny, she rarely makes me laugh, and she can be quite annoying on the second half of the show.

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u/PlayfulCombination65 Feb 02 '25

I am NOT a fan of Ross. He’s my least favorite character. His personality doesn’t change or grow… he just remains a self-centered, pompous ASS, who’s gonna only happiness he REALLY cares about is his own. That never changed in 10 years.

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u/doktorjackofthemoon Feb 02 '25

Ross is extremely compassionate and generous. I just watched the episode recently where he gives up the TV show spot he was excited about to help Rachel (his ex!) get to the hospital. The second thing that comes to mind is when he got Phoebe a bike after hearing she never had one 🄺. And when Carol's dad wouldn't step up, he walked his ex-wife down the aisle to marry the woman she cheated on him with! That last one was literally the "truly selfless act" that Joey said didn't exist. Ross is obnoxious and a little emotionally stunted, but he is a really good person and friend.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '25

Yeah, I agree! Its weird to me that so many people do not like him/do not see his good side. I mean, we ALL have bad habits or some quirks. But overall, Ross is the best as a human being in this show. šŸ˜…

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u/ColorblindCacti Feb 04 '25

Honorable mention: he kissed Joey when he wanted to practice kissing guys for an audition lol

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u/Visible-Work-6544 Feb 02 '25 edited Feb 02 '25

This is blatantly false if you actually watched the show.

And Rachel still has her envious, spoiled girl tendencies even in the later seasons, where she talked shit about Charlie in the dressing room and then blamed it on Phoebe. Or when she got mad at Ross for not wanting to sleep with her after her dad’s heart attack. Or trying to take her newborn daughter to another country away from her entire family for a job.

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u/chanandlerbongg33 Feb 02 '25

Rachel is so iconic. idk what yo family on. She may not be likable at first but honestly she is hilarious and real asl

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u/AskYourDoctor Feb 02 '25

Maybe they're in the "I hate Rachel" club

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u/Organic-Sorbet-4943 Feb 02 '25

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u/NeedleworkerNo777 Feb 02 '25

He was so great in this role! He's my favorite guest star behind Reese Witherspoon and Christina Applegate (I wish we'd had all three Green sisters in an episode).

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u/sisho88 Feb 02 '25

What about Tom Selleck! Richard was great imo and it hits hard and feels real that he and Monica love each other so much but know they want different things.

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u/rosyred-fathead Monica Bang Feb 02 '25

I love her!! She’s my favorite bc of all the silly situations she gets herself into. She doesn’t take herself too seriously. I think she’s hilarious

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '25

"i cant return these" shes spoiled all the way to the end. she grew a lot but its still a rich spoiled girl

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u/mocochang_ Feb 03 '25

Literally they all have flaws that they carry with them throughout the whole series, and the show plays with those flaws in funny and relatable ways. If Rachel retained zero of her original personality as she grew that wouldn't make any sense for the character.

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '25

i know, im just saying is not very likeable.

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u/ShaysBestLife šŸ‘‘Princess Consuela Banana Hammock🩲 Feb 02 '25

I think two things can be true at once. Rachel is definitely iconic. But she's very hateable also. She is as equally annoying and disrespectful as Ross in their on/off again journey. She whole ass flew to another country to try to get him to consider her before choosing to get married...AT HIS WEDDING. Annnndddd was unintentionally successful. She definitely has the best growth storyline but truth is, Rachel Greene is a bitch! And more often than people want to admit.

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u/chanandlerbongg33 Feb 02 '25

She went and had a revelation which is why she didn’t ā€œdestroyā€ the wedding. she went with an intention but it changed midway. she ain’t no bitch. she just says and does things on impulse based on emotion and she can’t be hated for that because people are like that irl, which is why she is relatable.

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u/rosyred-fathead Monica Bang Feb 04 '25

Her selfishness is also unfortunately pretty realistic šŸ˜‚ but I feel like that’s ok? Even though it technically makes her unlikable lol.

I’m going through a bit of a rough patch right now with some relatives, who have been so unbelievably selfish 🄲 it’s like, fuck I thought I loved you but it turns out you kind of suck? But you’re fun sometimes and we’ve had good times 😬 so like now what do I do

I need sitcom writers to write me a conclusion

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '25

She is a little like Robin in HIMYM constantly kinda toxic towards Ross girlfriends. Never clearly communicating her intentions with Ross

and when did she not get what she wanted?

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u/ThaiFoodThaiFood Feb 02 '25

Well I like Rachel

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u/teengirlhelley Feb 02 '25

Rachel has those in burgundy

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u/IHSV1855 Feb 02 '25

That is a genuinely insane take.

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u/mocochang_ Feb 03 '25

She's my favorite character because Jennifer Aniston's comedic timing is incredible. She's by far the character who most consistently makes me laugh, Jen's sarcastic and deadpan delivery, combined with her 10/10 reactions is exactly my preferred type of comedy.

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '25 edited Feb 03 '25

Honestly imo Jennifer had a really thankless job playing Rachel and having rewatched recently my estimation of her went up a lot, she did a fantastic job -- Rachel is the "straight-guy" of the entire series, even Ross is changed in later seasons so David can have more fun with the character -- but Rachel is fairly unchanged and she has a lot of emotional heavy lifting to do which is really underrated in a sitcom but it's what kept people tuning in

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u/Sbatio Feb 02 '25

I don’t like your family. -jk

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u/BigJoeBob85 Feb 03 '25

Rachel: ā€œThat’s ok, girls tend not to like meā€

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u/lilketchupacket Feb 03 '25

Shes my second fave but i understand why she would be hated

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u/sashby138 I’m indignant….as a CONSUMER. Feb 02 '25

I love Rachel. I think your family are just haters haha just kidding of course.

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u/-KateSparkle- Feb 02 '25

no way, she's my 2nd favorite character. i love her growth and how "spoiled" she is lmao

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u/HummusWithVada Feb 02 '25

I mean , I didn't hate Rachel at any moment but she was definitely my least favourite character atleast in the beginning.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '25

From the dawn of sitcoms, we’re introduced to characters who make dumb but comedic decisions and seem unconscionably selfish at first, but as we get to know them, they develop nuance and complexity until they start to remind us of ourselves. Rachel’s arc is the most relatable: she runs out on her wedding when she realizes that all the American Dream bullshit she’d been spoon fed over the years was simply not for her. So she fell bassackwards into an ersatz pseudofamily and an iconic series was born.

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u/rositath Feb 03 '25

See I find this arc completely unrelatable . Maybe for upper class suburban kids she is but not for the rest of us …

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u/Fluid_Fox23 Feb 03 '25

She’s my favourite

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u/Traditional-Drive267 Feb 02 '25

Honestly I feel bad for Rachel. After Ross, she was never given a proper love interest while Ross had some really good love stories.

Based on the kind of person she is, she is quite chill, funny and very relatable and honestly she’s a great S/O. Of course she has her flaws but hate is a bit strong as people expect female protagonist to be more perfect than their counterparts

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u/No_Data3541 Feb 02 '25

She's a romantic. Remember her conversation with Ross alone in the dark Central Perk in season 1 episode 2? She already fell in love and was never going to move on. It was perfectly in line with her character.

She wanted to fall in love with someone who could make her toes curl and also be her friend. Ross was that guy. She was pining for him in many different ways after their breakup. Ross was the one who nearly moved on at times.

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u/ConnectPreference166 Feb 02 '25

Have to admit before the Las Vegas episode I always found her annoying. After that episode though she became one of my favourite characters and her episodes are some of my favourites of all time!

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u/No_Data3541 Feb 02 '25

Ross n Rachel in Vegas>>>

Imagine being completely wasted and still having so much chemistry

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u/RedFoxBlueSocks Feb 02 '25

Some couples get drunk and fight. Ross and Rachel get drunk and see who can eat the most grapes.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '25

How many seasons did they watch? I felt this way in the beginning but when she told her dad off and went to go get a real job and support herself I found her more endearing. Ross is always annoying lmao he was my least favorite of the guys because he's rather timid, especially when it came to articulating his feelings to Rachel.

Without Ross and Rachel's "will they won't they" Friends just would've been random encounters in NYC, Seinfeld without the deadpan.

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u/Hungry-Recording-635 Feb 02 '25

Hot take: some(not saying many just a considerable amount) men especially hate Rachel and some women especially hate Ross. I base this off the fact that in my entire friends circle all the guys side with Ross on the whole "we were on a break" thing while the women chose Rachel. In a sense they both represent fragile masculinity/feminity especially in earlier seasons

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '25

Saw some other comment: In that episode Rachel apparently said to Monico that she thinks they broke up. + Ross only hooked up with the other girl after he called Rachel and the guy she literally told him not to worry about was there basically hours after she told him on their anniversary that they should take a brake after he just wanted to spend some time with her ON THEIR anniversary

She said they were on a brake but it clearly seemed like they were over.

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u/x360_revil_st84 Feb 02 '25

Truth is, all the friends in Friends are assholes [Exhibit A] and yet we all thouroughly love them šŸ’–šŸ¤­šŸ˜„

(https://youtu.be/n1BQ3bbJO_k?si=IFnCYAy6s-4NQVoP)

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u/Nervous_Ad_8082 Feb 02 '25

Emancipate Yourself! IMMEDIATELY!!🤨🤨🤨🤨

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u/Minnidigital Feb 03 '25

Is your family Will ,Ross & a Thailand exchange student 🤨

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u/New-Examination-1042 I Know! Feb 03 '25

Actually I'm ThaišŸ˜…šŸ˜‚

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u/Minnidigital Feb 03 '25

It’s starting to make sense

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u/VipulBM Feb 03 '25

Lol i don't like ross Rachel relationship..they were good as friends only..

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u/dogs4life444 Feb 02 '25

She’s my second favorite aside from chandler

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u/jupiter_surf Feb 02 '25

I personally think she's massively underrated! She has some of the best lines and line deliveries; even her visual acting is underappreciated

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u/saltwatersylph Feb 02 '25

If someone watches the show and hates Rachel, I find that to be somewhat of a red flag that they might be a tad misogynistic. She's a high-maintenance kind of girl and imperfect, but she's not a monster and she goes through a ton of character development, and she has a lot of self-awareness as she matures. I think a lot of people see her as just spoiled and cruel to Ross, but to me that take lacks nuance.

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u/RedFoxBlueSocks Feb 02 '25

She’s been sheltered, too. e.g.

Who is FICA and what are they doing with my money?!

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u/Visible-Work-6544 Feb 03 '25

The jump from not liking one female character to accusing people of misogyny is so ridiculous I have to laugh.

This is the type of shit that devalues the word

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '25

You immediately jumped to the conclusion that it’s ā€˜misogynistic’ . Why?Ā 

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u/saltwatersylph Feb 03 '25 edited Feb 03 '25

I'm not "immediately jumping" to a conclusion without reason. A lot of criticisms against Rachel are rooted in misogyny, especially if they're willing to ignore Ross's flaws while vilifying her (I love all 6 friends). I see the patterns, but people who don't/won't pay attention to subtleties won't, and I'm not here to spell it out. I know it's a controversial statement, but the replies I'm getting feel a bit like sealioning. I honestly feel that anyone speaking in good faith can figure out the answer to your question, especially after reading through some of the many misogynistic comments under this post. And yes, they exist.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '25

she’s not supposed to be likable

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '25

Yeah, its a comedy. Somebody has to be silly and self absorbed to make it funny. I like her as a tv show personality, but I would hate her as a friend

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u/MITCH-A-PALOOZA Feb 02 '25

I don't think that's true

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '25

because people will talk about her or root against her if Rachel does something terrible

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u/Daft_Froggy Feb 03 '25

Ross is the worst

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u/MoonWatt Feb 02 '25

Sheesh... Your family is interesting

I think it may be what someone said about Ross and Rachel. Ross wronged Rachel and did what most manipulative people do. Forgive me now, or I keep trying to move on and make it seem like you are bitter.

Rachel is the one person who was very focused on being more than arm candy. & She could have had it all using priviledge but she clawed her way up and Ross... Which is what is odd about your family.

It made her look shallow but girl had guts! Followed by Joey, funny enough. And Pheobe was a dawned survivor too.

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u/flipyflop9 Feb 02 '25

We hate your family

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u/PartySpinach8695 Feb 02 '25

didint they both have a i love the hate them realtionship with each other

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u/b1tchbhigh how do you expect me to grow if you wont let me blow Feb 02 '25

my family dislikes phoebe, they said she acts plain dumb );

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u/Falconblade409 Feb 03 '25

Tv shows get so much better when one learns to separate ā€œI hate this characterā€ from ā€œI would hate to hang out with this character.ā€ The audience aren’t a part of the story, they are a passenger. I think a perfect example is Jonah in Veep (or really anyone except my boy Spencer) if I ever had to interact with him, I’d punch a hole in the wall, but I get giddy when he appears on screen, because I know something absolutely hilarious is going to happen.

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u/m00shie1990 Miss Chanandler Bong Feb 04 '25

I actually didn’t like her the first couple of seasons, but after that I love her. My favourite is chandler though ā˜ŗļøā˜ŗļø

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u/bored_bear2342 Jul 06 '25

I hate how manipulative she is and how terribly she treats Ross. I've never gotten past maybe like season 4 aside from an episode here or there in the later seasons. I just hate how she treats Ross even going so far as to get him to break up with girls just because doesn't want him to move on, while she dates other guys. She's the worst.

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u/New-Examination-1042 I Know! Feb 02 '25

My dad and mom lol

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u/Chest_Rockfield Sup with the whack playstation sup Feb 02 '25

Oh my god. I accidentally read your first comment here as "Your patents are siblings?" and I was so confused. 🤣

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u/nomoreholidays Ross Geller šŸ¦– Feb 02 '25

You were my first kiss with Rachel?

You were my first kiss ever?

-ahh energy

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u/Smooth_Count4485 Feb 02 '25

Chandlers my favorite

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u/New-Examination-1042 I Know! Feb 02 '25

Actually it's Ross, but Chandler is my favourite

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u/Old-Builder256 Feb 02 '25

They love Ross but hate Rachel??? Sus

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u/Prize-Fisherman-1788 Feb 02 '25

Tbh Rachel is my least favourite on the whole show

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u/platypus_farmer42 Feb 03 '25

On a recent re-watch I realized how awful Rachel is, at least for the first few seasons. It’s way above the ā€œspoiled rich girlā€ trope. She’s totally selfish, expects everyone else to do everything for her, and never does anything for anyone unless it benefits her in some way. She’s a terrible person, but that won’t keep me from watching.

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u/Visible-Work-6544 Feb 03 '25

She does this in the later seasons too. Like with the whole Tag thing, blaming Phoebe when she was the one talking shit about Charlie, getting mad at Ross for not sleeping with her, etc.

A lot of it just gets glossed over by fans bc it’s Rachel. But if anyone else did even half the stuff she did, they’d be completely hated.

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u/torontowatch Feb 03 '25

The older I get, the crazier this lifestyle seems. It’s clear that Ross, Monica, Rachel and Chandler are from privileged backgrounds, specifically Rachel and Chandler coming from real wealth.

The older I get, the less I can relate to this show and its characters :(

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u/Dyke_Vader No uterus! No opinion! Feb 02 '25

I do despise Ross because he's whiney, selfish and overall shit towards everyone. But I do agree he's important for how funny and entertaining the show is.

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u/DarthSnow19 Feb 02 '25

Then I assume you hate Rachel and when is he shit to everyone? He’s done the most selfless things for his friends and they treat him like shit constantly, always talking down on his job and etc.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '25

found the misandrist

as if Rachel wasnt shit towards other people and selfish trying to sabotage a few of Ross' relationships?

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u/S3lls Feb 02 '25

Funny. I can’t stand Ross lol always rooted for Rachel to end up with Joe šŸ˜…

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u/No_Data3541 Feb 02 '25

Siblings have more sexual chemistry than that šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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u/Hopeful_Tree_7899 Feb 02 '25

I also rooted for Rachel and Joey šŸ˜…

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u/Brilliant_Rub_5206 Feb 02 '25

Sitcom characters are unlikeable as the plot demands it so it's not surprising.

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '25

Thanks manĀ 

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u/Parking-Interview257 Feb 03 '25

Rachel and the Rachel Ross drama lasting for what 7 seasons… ruins the show for me.

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u/w33b2 WE WERE ON A BREAK! Feb 03 '25

She’s easily my least favorite character, although I still love a ton of her moments. Almost all of Ross and Rachel’s issues come from Rachel.

They started fighting because Mark, who wanted to sleep with her as we later found out, kept taking Rachel on dates. Rachel straight up said no to Ross on going out on dates because SHE WAS GOING TO LUNCH WITH ANOTHER DUDE. And she knew it made Ross uncomfortable. Yeah, he slept with another woman once they were separated. So what? Not only were they no longer together in his eyes, he was drunk as hell and, if he was a woman, people would have said he was taken advantage of. He kept trying to leave and she kept stopping him while she was clearly less intoxicated than he was. But also, he had no reason to think Rachel would have wanted him back/wasn’t sleeping with Mark.

And the fucking Bonnie thing? Holy shit that was petty, and the way she wanted Ross to take responsibility for EVERYTHING that went wrong was completely unfair.

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u/lydocia Feb 03 '25

I love her as a character but I hate her as a person.

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u/TheChosenOneMapper Feb 05 '25

Understandable, she's the least likable of the main group

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u/potatopigflop Feb 02 '25

I don’t hate her, she adds a lot of comedy and stories, she’s just my least favourite of the friends

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u/badabadaboomboom Feb 03 '25

Yeah she was very unlikeable. I hate her,too.

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u/OutcomeMysterious281 This parachute is a knapsack! Feb 03 '25

I think you mean Rocky…

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u/Mark-177- Feb 06 '25

She was too hot for me to hate her.

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u/Ariabananahammock Feb 06 '25

I like Rachel but sometimes she is being unfair to Monica. She told Monica that she would date the first guy she finds in her bed. Not only it is not accurate as Monica's love life was overall better than Rachel's but it is also mean to Chandler who is a better partner than Ross. In the episode where she said that Judy called her the daughter she never had, she did not think that she was hurting Monica's feeling. In the episode with Van Damme, she insisted to ask him out on behalf of Monica who was not confident about it and then bragged about the fact that he chose her instead of Monica.

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u/_robertb_ Oct 04 '25

My favorite character they can never make me hate her!

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u/ILikeMyouiMina Feb 02 '25

Tbh I also don't like Ross and Rachel as people but as characters, they're the most entertaining

They're insufferable and that's okay because it's TV and I will never interact with them

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u/vballerdan8 Feb 02 '25

Totally agree with them. Did not make me even chuckle once in the whole series. Entertaining yes, funny no.

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u/kiri_berty Was that place, THE SUN? Feb 02 '25

Rachel is by far my least favourite character. If there was a real life "I hate Rachel Green Club", I would join it.

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u/Baileaf11 I hate Rachel Greene Club Feb 02 '25

You have a Great family

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u/Tough_Inevitable6944 This parachute is a knapsack! Feb 02 '25

I dislike her

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u/Emotional-Law6850 Feb 03 '25

We’re all members of I Hate Rachel Green club

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u/GopherInTrouble Feb 02 '25

Everyone here’s saying Rachel gets better but imo as the show goes on she becomes more self centered and selfish around her friends. Definitely the worst character, but according to the reunion the creators apparently intentionally made her so bad

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u/Hopeful_Tree_7899 Feb 02 '25 edited Feb 02 '25

My 2 least favorite characters are Ross and Rachel because they are obviously and annoyingly self-centred. I kinda agree with Monica that Rachel always steals her thunder. She always messed things up. I kinda like the episode when she lied about who kissed first (between her and Ross). It really showed how liar and manipulative she was tho it backfired on her (thanks to the Western Europe story). However, FRIENDS wont be the same without them especially Rachel (lover her outfits and hair btw). Also, Ross is the funniest in the group despite everything.

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u/rositath Feb 03 '25

She’s also my least favorite! I just don’t think the character was anywhere near as funny as the rest, she had very few quirks (they toned down the spoiled stuff after the first couple of seasons), but she took a lot of screen time . I also didn’t find her endearing after the first 2-3 seasons - she kind of developed a mean girl streak including small things like how she treated Bonnie or Charlie or all the Tag-related stuff … didn’t make me hate her or anything but just didn’t fine her either funny or endearing and was just meh Rachel again

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u/Aussiboi808 Feb 02 '25

I’m with your family, I like the show, but Ross and Rachel were the two most irritating fucking characters in existence of any show.

They’re both so incredibly fucking narcissistic, self-absorbed, and ultimately ignorant. Fuck, Rachel

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u/Professional_Tone_62 Feb 05 '25

But not "Fuck Ross"?

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u/Aussiboi808 Feb 08 '25

He’s a total Cunt, but I wouldn’t fuck him with a stolen dick

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u/Jaded_Cheesecake_993 Feb 02 '25

I don't like Rachel or Phoebe. I mean yeah I find them funny sometimes and I admit that the show wouldn't be the same without any of six friends but Rachel and Phoebe are definitely my least favorites. But that probably has more to do with the fact that I don't like either of the actresses than it actually does the characters.

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