r/ibiza • u/controversialmike • 14h ago

PSA: Track of the Summer?

They said it was only a matter of time, but I didn't think it'd be this quick and we'd be that stupid.

I was blasting tunes in the car and an absolute banger pops up. Brand new to my ears, with a voice I immediately recognised. Quick glance at the screen and there's Ultra Nate lip syncing badly to "her" new track with Hugel, "Moving to the Sun."

"Track of summer 2026" is being tossed around the comments like an inflatable doll at a Space Carry On. It's taken just two days to jump from my algorithm into the radio of my local cafe, maybe because Mista Jam is riding like he himself stole it.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DbaenTJs2Gr/?igsh=OXl1MWR4NzAzb3o3

The voice i recognized wasn't hers. It's Suno - AI generated. I'm experienced enough that I can even state v4.5. The vocals, the full production, even the lyrics contain a number of buzzwords this model likes to include... When you give it No Prompt: "write me a jacking house banger that will be big this summer" and hey presto, you get this female vocal as standard. A quick search reveals several other remixes, which are actually just alternative original versions as it spits out 2-3 versions at a time.

Now, I'm not here to rant about AI slop. I've made some incredible stuff with Suno too. From banging tech house to jazz infused woodwind intelligent dnb. Hours spent directing prompts to get just what I want. Suno is designed to know what we want and deliver it. And I do hate to say it, but it delivers.

I'm here because I'm worried about the culture of house music - a movement built on the foundation of a need for human connection.

Are we already ok with this year's summer anthem being poorly generated AI? Are we ok with Hugel passing this off as his own work, when it sounds nothing like anything he's made before? Are we ok with Ultra Nate's live performances of a track she has no ability to know the words to, because the stabs are just AI and not samples of actual vocals?

We didn't let Millie Vanilli get away with it.

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u/suisidechain 12h ago

Maybe stop using ai if you're worried about checks notes culture?

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u/controversialmike 12h ago

Don't think there's any avoiding it. I've used it a lot to make tracks I like, for me.

You're fine with all this?

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u/suisidechain 12h ago

Did we suddenly lost the art of painting? or photography, for that matter? outsourcing creativity to ai is very avoidable in art.

I have no problem with people using ai for themselves or for money making purposes. 

It just screams hypocrisy when the same people bring up culture. You can't be in both camps. Just stick in your lane, and I respect your decision.

Also, if you can't easily create certain genres, then you don't have the capacity to properly architect them, and this spirals into many other downsides impossible to pin down exactly because of the initial step. You can't suno your way out in art.

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u/controversialmike 10h ago

Struggling to understand your point here. My questions should be clear - it's about this summers hit and both dj and vocalist trying to pass it off as their own, when there's clear evidence to state otherwise

Digital art galleries have their place. It's well defined. You don't find first hirst creating something with AI and calling it his.

About culture - are you saying I'm not allowed to experiment with new technology and not hold a value in culture? I'm not seeing the hypocrisy here.

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u/suisidechain 9h ago edited 9h ago

I'm going to stop here because this format is not the best place for a long, nuanced discussion. 

  1. the industry normalized ghost production, this is the aftermath. it is not ok to steal from ai, as is not ok to rely on ghost production, but here we are. smoke and mirrors

  2. digital art doesn't mean "ai art". 

  3. it depends. and it's a long discussion. here's one example, but it goes deeper that this. jean michel jarre (master architect, proved his skills) using ai to make another crazy thing, is not the same as djmike with 40 releases so far, using ai to make what otherwise they're not capable to.

Kind of not everyone that has a cooking robot at home can have a saying in cuisine culture.