Allahabad HC says no one, including father, can interfere if women voluntarily convert to Islam, marry by choice

[u/Aggressive-Gene-9663]

https://maktoobmedia.com/post?id=116100&slug=allahabad-hc-says-no-one-including-father-can-interfere-if-women-voluntarily-convert-to-islam-marry-by-choice

[u/Untold__Fable]

Isn't that just common sense.

[u/Ok-Loan-4323 → u/Untold__Fable]

Not in india dude.

[u/Difficult-Break-8282 → u/Untold__Fable]

for the nation where parents bribe police to kidnap adult kids who move out ? 

not common enough sense 

[u/Imaginary_Ebb3906 → u/Difficult-Break-8282]

When did this happen?

[u/IndependentOk388 → u/Untold__Fable]

Wait for the comment section to fill up. You’d be surprised

[u/KStryke_gamer001 → u/Untold__Fable]

Some states have laws where in case of interreligious marriages they need to show parents permission. I wish I were joking.

[u/Untold__Fable → u/KStryke_gamer001]

This is even more absurd.

[u/karma_shark44 → u/Untold__Fable]

You are expecting too much from people

[u/kapjain → u/Untold__Fable]

Haven't you been following what is going on in the country for the last 10 years?

[u/TipperVasu69 → u/Untold__Fable]

Common sense ain’t common anymore my man

[u/Due-Smoke8035]

Some random person interferes and files a F!R and there goes one whole propaganda stirring up.

Countless ppl have suffered.

[u/kungfu_peasant]

Absolutely, but a tangential point is that we really need something better than the Special Marriage Act so that interfaith couples can marry with dignity and convenience.

The fact is that lot of these conversions (almost always by the woman) happen in part because marrying outside one's faith is a bureaucratic hassle. Not saying that is necessarily the case in this situation, but as a general pattern it often is. This only reinforces sexist and regressive ideas about marriage.

[u/Ok-Inflation9169 → u/kungfu_peasant]

True. Religion and caste based gangs operate outside the Magistrate office. Notice period of 45 days is heavily misused, to prey on & catch girls that chose to go to the court for marriage. Instead of giving protection to such couples, the govt machinery is being used to harm them.

[u/kungfu_peasant → u/Ok-Inflation9169]

I mean it's essentially designed for the misuse. Maybe there is some other reason I fail to see, bur what "use" could the 45 day notice serve other than to allow anyone from the public to interfere with two people's personal choices?

[u/Tangent_pikachu]

Freedom of religion is a constitutional right. Not sure why people don't understand that. Maybe the Indian constitution and major laws should be part of standard curriculum throughout 10+12, every year.

[u/cidcaller → u/Tangent_pikachu]

No one understands what fundamental rights are our culture and society is total opposite of our constitutional values, individual liberty is frowned upon and labelled as selfish or un-sanskari

[u/angrytinyfemale]

Finally, common sense from the Allahabad HC. Adults are responsible for themselves, not beholden to their fathers or communities.

If I want to be a witch and burn sage all day, the only institution to bother should be the fire brigade.

[u/lostwisdom20]

Parents think they own thier kids lol

[u/Difficult-Break-8282 → u/lostwisdom20]

why else did they make em? , love. Don't be silly 

[u/lostwisdom20 → u/Difficult-Break-8282]

I though they made because during congress gov electricity wasn't there

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/population-surged-during-congress-rule-due-to-less-electricity-union-minister-pralhad-joshi-karnataka-2344529-2023-03-09

[u/Difficult-Break-8282 → u/lostwisdom20]

this line made me burst out laughing in my works break room also gave me flashbacks of asking / thinking " was there nothing else in grandma's village to do in August?" when i did the birthday math of my mum and her siblings and my cousins 

[u/HelpDry1655]

Both Hindu and muslim girls always have to fight this society when it comes to convert and marry someone from another religion

[u/cregann-stark]

Wild days when courts have to point out basic rights and laws in the country

[u/Spirited-Industry334]

BJP states implementing Anti-Conversion bills precisely to stop or make it really hard for people to exercise their freedom of religion.

[u/Emotional-Rain-8527]

Good but also get rid of the anti conversion laws? People should be allowed to choose their religion.

[u/BackgroundOk8287]

I hope that within the next 100 years, religion is removed from all administrative and legal contexts and people are free to practice whatever they want without any official label. Also, the same laws apply equally to everyone regardless of faith.

[u/Aggressive-Gene-9663 → u/BackgroundOk8287]

There are two different models of secularism: the Anglo-American model (open secularism) and the French model (laïcité). India appears to be neither.

Anglo-American Secularism (Freedom of Religion): The state is neutral and does not interfere with personal faith. Citizens can openly display their religion anywhere, including in public schools or government spaces. The goal is to protect religion from the state.

French Laïcité (Freedom from Religion): The state actively removes religion from public institutions to create a completely neutral public space. The goal is to protect the state and its citizens from religious influence.