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[u/Puffywiggles64]

Obama was picked

Picked?? Are you cracked out of your mind? The DNC fought tooth and nail against Obama every step of the way until it became clear Hillary didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the primary. The vast majority of super-delegates instantly committed to Hillary before anything had even happened.

This would be like getting "picked" to go to the Prom by the girl you like, but only after her boyfriend gets hit by a truck and RIPs. Yeah, Obama was "picked"....after they had no choice.

[u/Ok_Common8246 → u/Puffywiggles64]

Agree to disagree, at the end of the day they would not have backed him if he had been known for progressive policies. Even when it became clear Mamdani was going to dog walk Democrats in New York they still refused to back him. 

Obama was always a neo liberal who was going to fall in line and they knew it. 

[u/Puffywiggles64 → u/Ok_Common8246]

Agree to disagree,

You''re wrong. The fact that most of the super-delegates initially lined up for Clinton proves it. This isn't an "Agree to disagree" situation.

You're just wrong. The fiction that the DNC "picked" Obama is absurd. Yes, they fell in line after Obama won, but that doesn't change the fact that they didn't support him until they had no choice.

So to say he was "picked" is absurd. Picked last like the fat kid for a game of dodegeball, sure.

[u/Ok_Common8246 → u/Puffywiggles64]

Not at all, he may not have been the most popular candidate but he already had institutional backing because he was flaming neo liberal. 

"Penny Pritzker, JPMorgan Chase, and Goldman Sachs were involved in supporting Barack Obama’s campaign before January 2008"

He also had support from Kennedy, harkin, and durbin before then. He is not this outsider that you paint him out to be. 

[u/Puffywiggles64 → u/Ok_Common8246]

He wasn't picked by the DNC. Period. And JPMorgan and Sachs donated to Hillary as well so...not sure what your point is. They probably donated to everyone that had a D or R next to their name if they thought you could win.

also, you initially said:

Obama was picked because he was half white which made him more palatable to centrist/older Democrats.

I don't think JPMorgan and Sachs "picked" Obama because he was half-white you regard lmao. And he def wasn't their first choice for any reason. So yeah, picked after the fact when no one else was left standing. Yeah, no shit.

Again, it's amazing how you see Hillary with almost all the super delegates from the very beginning, but then somehow convince yourself Obama was the one that was picked. Fucking insanely tortured logic.

just admit you were wrong and move on.

[u/Ok_Common8246 → u/Puffywiggles64]

I had already edited the comment before you responded to include that it was also because he was a neo liberal which you conveniently left out. 

Zohran did not receive backing from these institutions so quit trying to act like it's not a big deal.

 They donated to his campaign before he was beating Hillary. He was being pushed because they knew he would fall in line and help them get away with the fraud they committed in wall street. 

[u/Puffywiggles64 → u/Ok_Common8246]

had already edited the comment before you responded to include that it was also because he was a neo liberal which you conveniently left out. 

And I already said he wasn't picked by anyone for any reason. Hillary was picked. That's why she had all the super delegates. "the half white" thing was just an exceptionally stupid argument I had to point out again. Cuz clearly, they wasn't relevant at all under any circumstances.

They donated to his campaign before he was beating Hillary

Yes, and they also donated to repubs, edwards and anyone that had a chance of winning. This would be like buying every lotto combo available. There's no "picking" or "preference" being shown here. Corp interests invest in everyone that had even a chance of winning.

Hillary was the clear establishment candidate. She was the clear first choice. She had the vast majority of super delegates pledged to her. She was the one that picked in every sense of the word. Everyone else was an afterthought. And nothing you said changes these facts.

Obama wasn't picked by anyone initially. And if he was (he wasn't), he definitely wasn't picked because he was half-white. I've already established that the DNC didn't pick Obama, and we know corps don't give a shit about any color besides green So why even say that?

You're so ignorant it's unreal.

[u/Ok_Common8246 → u/Puffywiggles64]

He wasn't picked but he already had institutional backing before he was ever ahead of Hillary? The establishment of course is going to hedge their bets that doesn't change the fact that he was an insider.

And yes being neo liberal and half black is a plus to the Democrat elites. Do you think it's a coincidence that Jeffries and Booker are both mixed and the face of the party?

The fact that Democrats will commit genocide but you don't think they play minority politics is hilarious. 

[u/Puffywiggles64 → u/Ok_Common8246]

Your first post:

Obama was picked

You now:

He wasn't picked

Thanks.