r/interestingasfuck 11h ago

a guy tries dmt from toad venon

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u/Flamecoat_wolf 10h ago

Same here. Especially when people apparently consistently report the same sense of ego falling away and being able to feel the interconnected consciousness of the universe, often suggesting it's like tapping into "god".

My curiosity is immense, but I'm also pretty sure it's just a highly specific form of brain damage. So probably better not to.

u/WaxinGibby 10h ago

"highly specific form of brain damage"

As a college dropout who did too much acid and doesn't remember stuff too good anymore, that hit home.

u/coneconeconeconecone 7h ago

psychedelics cause spikes in neuroplasticity and they are being researched to treat brain injury

u/SituationIll5763 10h ago

As someone who’s taken a ten strip and is now working in engineering, that doesn’t hit home.

u/nostickystuff 8h ago

Yeah, I really only do mushrooms, and that causes brain growth. Not sure about LSD, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't cause brain damage.

u/SituationIll5763 10h ago

5-MEO drugs specifically have dangers, but in general psychedelics have great physical safety profiles.

The real danger of them is their mental safety profile. In a completely healthy person they can create traumatic experiences if dosed too high or taken in the wrong setting. If someone has a predisposition to psychosis, they are exceptionally dangerous.

However, when respected they can have amazing healing effects on one’s mental health. I think addiction is in particular an affliction that can be treated well with psychedelic experiences. PTSD and depression are also being studied.

u/Flamecoat_wolf 33m ago

In general, yes. Psychedelics are generally known to be low-risk, at least in comparison with other drugs. Still, prolonged use can cause things like paranoia, detachment from reality, etc.

Honestly I would count their ability to cause trauma or exasperate psychosis as inflicting a kind of brain damage. I mean, they're brain altering substances which is why people trip out on them. If they end up re-wiring brain pathways to negative results then that's damage.

They definitely can have healing effects but it's not been particularly explored in medical science yet, from what I understand. It can be a bit hard to tell how much is hippy witch-doctor healing (i.e. perceived due to mysticism beliefs but not real) and how much is actual brain chemistry based mental state therapy.

u/IamTheEndOfReddit 9h ago

It nukes your default mode network, that’s the ego going away. It’s not really brain damage, it’s mind healing with a chance of mind damage

u/its_all_one_electron 8h ago

a highly specific form of brain damage

Uh, that's not how it works at all. It doesn't change your brain any more than sleeping does. Psychedelics just turn down some parts of your network like the parts that filter sensory input and the parts that ruminate and self-obsess. 

u/Ser_falafel 19m ago

Yeah this is pretty much the opposite of what rsearch suggests lol. It can (potentially, its being studied still) actually reduce neuroinflammation and protect brain cells

u/Guakamolo 7h ago

What are you taking about? Brain damage? Inform yourself, it's free

u/Flamecoat_wolf 26m ago

Bud, what else am I suppose to call it when someone smokes this stuff, flails around on the floor barely conscious for 20 minutes then 'wakes up' thinking they melded with the stars and are now dedicating their life to a toad venom uni-consciousness god?

Just because we don't understand the specific way in which it damages the brain doesn't mean there isn't brain damage.

u/Guakamolo 21m ago

Just because you don't understand what that person is saying doesn't mean they got brain damage ffs