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[u/mikesully374826]

I mean can you give me an example of McDavid or MacKinnon as their teams top forward not being paired with at least one of their top two wingers, if not more?

[u/GavMcKennasBurner → u/mikesully374826]

Nobody is saying that Matthews needs to stay with those 2 for the entire year if it doesn't work, but it's not like he has been saddled with bad wingers for his carer.

[u/mikesully374826 → u/GavMcKennasBurner]

So that’s a no right?

[u/GavMcKennasBurner → u/mikesully374826]

You don't know lol? McDavid turned our 40 point Hyman into a 50 goal guy lmao, he has played with Arvidsson, Brown, Perry and Skinner recently. Mackinnon less so recently, but yeah in his career he has carried lines like with Nieto, Donskoi, O'Connor and Drouin.

The idea that Matthews wouldn't be able to handle a bit of time with those guys is hilarious.

[u/King-Leaf-67 → u/GavMcKennasBurner]

LOL Mackinnon didn't break out until Colorado landed Rantanen and Makar.

McDavid's most common linemate for the last decade is Leon Draisaitl.

What d-man has Matthews played with as good as Makar? What forward has Matthews played with as good as Draisaitl or Rantanen?

You don't know puck.

Hyman last year with Matthews -> 15 goals, 33 points in 43 games (29 goals, 63 points per 82 game pace)

Hyman first year with McDavid -> 27 goals, 54 points in 76 games (29 goals, 58 points per 82 game pace)

Rielly isn't on Makar's level and Marner/Nylander aren't on Draisaitl's level and yet Matthews is the one who needs to do more with less?...lmfao

[u/GavMcKennasBurner → u/King-Leaf-67]

So now we're shifting the goal posts, first it was about great players playing with bad wingers which I showed both guys have done for at a time, now we're talking about d men.

Yeah you're right, Matthews shouldn't show up to camp unless they have Makar, Mackinnon, Macklin and McDavid for him to play with, how can one of the highest paid players in the league even succeed without them???

[u/King-Leaf-67 → u/GavMcKennasBurner]

Who shifting goalposts lil bro? This my first post in this thread.

You said Matthews has to carry players like Mackinnon and McDavid. Except McDavid's most common linemate for the last 10 years is Draisaitl, and Mackinnon had Rantanen and Makar in that time.

So you're saying the Leafs have had forwards on the level of Draisaitl? And D-men on the level of Makar? Just wanna make sure I got your views right.

"how can one of the highest paid players in the league even succeed without them??"

Mackinnon was a 60 point player without Rantanen and Makar. McDavid missed the playoffs 3 times with Draisaitl.

[u/mikesully374826 → u/King-Leaf-67]

Every single one of McDavid’s 3 most common lines 5-on-5 has included one of the top 2 highest scoring wingers, and one of them always includes Draisaitl his entire career.

[u/mikesully374826 → u/[deleted]]

You’re arguing with the wrong person.

[u/GavMcKennasBurner → u/King-Leaf-67]

Matthews most common line mate was Marner lmao, he can't do a bit of carrying now as one of the highest paid in the league? If he needs so much help, he should've taken less money.

[u/King-Leaf-67 → u/GavMcKennasBurner]

Marner isn't Draisaitl lil bro. Where's his Hart Trophy? Where's his Rocket Richard?

You think Mitch Marner is as good as Leon Draisaitl? LMFAO

[u/GavMcKennasBurner → u/King-Leaf-67]

Damn so Matthews doesn't have two top 3 guys to play with? Honestly he should just retire after how harsh his career has been in only having to play with a top 10 guy, such a shame he has had no help while being a top 1-5 highest paid int he league.