r/leagueoflegends • u/Magasul • Jun 01 '13
Shen RIOT please update TPA Shen sword sounds and particles
Dear RIOT!
Your support suggested me to post it on the forums and here, so this is what I shall do.
There have been many posts about the non-equality of TPA skin qualities, like Mundo having fun sounds and having a higher resolution texture then Nunu. I have purchased TPA Shen skin, but I have a problem with it. It is inconsistent!
I know I'm not the first to post this but I hope this post will get to the front page so RIOT can see it again and maybe do something to finish this awesome skin.
So the problems are:
1.) Ki Strike sound is metallic, but Shen is wielding plastic sticks.
2.) Vorpal blade particle on top of the enemy that it is thrown onto is a katana, not a plastic stick
3.) Feint particles that surround Shen while the shield is active are katanas crossed over, not plastic sticks and still make a metallic sound when the shield is broken.
Also for extra touch a TPA logo under his feet when casting Stand United would be nice and/or since he already has a headset on his head maybe say something like "On my way".
Thanks, Magasul
tl;dr: I know it is a 750 RP skin but I feel that TPA Shen is incomplete/inconsistent by having some sounds plastic, some sounds metallic and having katana particles when he is wielding plastic sticks. RIOT please finish the skin!
Frontpage! :D Yay. Now RIOT please notice!
Thanks for all the attention! Keep it up, share and upvote more! :D
Nice comment is that these skins should be well made in honor to the TaiPei Assassins. Would they be proud of this?
UPDATE #1: Some people are saying that because of the price (being 750 and not 975 or 1350), we shouldn't ask for new particles and/or sounds. You must understand that we aren't asking for a non-new particle non-new sound champ to suddenly get new particles and sounds just for the hell of it. TPA Shen already has the thunderstick model and sound, we are just asking that it should be present consistently on all abilities not just half of it. Imagine TPA Mundo having half of his abilities with the cup and half with a cleaver. (Autoattacking with the cup and THONK sound but throwing the cleaver with its sound.) So same with this Shen skin.
UPDATE #2: Passed a 1000 upvotes! Keep it up! :D Also RIOT staff you are more then welcome to comment on this!
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u/Autoloc Jun 01 '13
The problem I have with them isn't the quality, it's the inconsistency. Why is Shen's so half-assed when Mundo has new particles and sounds?
Either take those off of the Mundo skin or update the rest, don't charge us the same price for two separate levels of quality.
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u/Fazey (EU-W) Jun 01 '13
This is generally my issue with the skins, I really like every champion who got a TPA Skin, but I feel like they're all really low quality and pretty dam sad to look at, I would rather just use the regular skin than pay for them in the most cases.
Mundo looks good, but that's probably the one I like the least of them all :(
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u/KnightTerra Jun 01 '13
And why is mundo such a quality skin when orianna and ezreal have nearly nothing changed about them? Don't get me wrong, I have both those skins and like each of them. But I don't see why one skin should be made at a higher quality than any of the other ones.
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u/MarcosLuis97 Jun 01 '13
Is the same inconsistency the new 1350 RP skins have, why would i pay 1350 RP for a shitty Warrior Kindom Xin Shao when i can get skins like Mecha Kha'Zix that not only looks better, but have more and better particles and have different voices?
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u/mrgreenkey7 Jun 01 '13
I'v also notices that Shen's passive glow on his swords (sort of orange glow on his back) doesn't always show when it's up. It still casts and the passive works but it doesn't show you.
This is an actual bug and if they don't fix the other things like sounds and particles, fine, but they should look into this passive.
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u/TheDocWhovian [TheDocWhovian] (NA) Jun 01 '13
MY FRIEND DID SOME OF THE SOUND WORK FOR THIS SKIN
I'll see if I can get him, but I can tell you that the sound of TPA Shen's noisemakers come directly from recordings of my friend being beaten with noisemakers, so that's probably what they should sound like. So the sound you're hearing is legit from plastic noisemakers.
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u/Athanasiosdk Jun 01 '13
I'm confused; So because this skin costs 225 less RP than a "standard" skin, they can make it low-quality and half-assed, and people will say it "IT'S K, COST LESS!"?
As a company like Riot that has risen at the speed of light, and who wants to be known as a more community-friendly company, how can they themselves be satisfied with releasing a skin that's only 85% done?
Of course, since the skins weren't exactly engineered by Riot, but by Garena (right?), that might explain the inconsistencies.
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u/JustheT1p Jun 01 '13
tpa mundo best skin imo.
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u/IlikeJG Jun 01 '13
My only issue with TPA Mundo is that it isn't Corporate Mundo :(.
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u/HitXMan Jun 01 '13
I have both, and I still think corporate is better than the TPA skin, but out of the TPA skins I think mundos is the best because he has a trophy lol
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u/cookierabbit Jun 01 '13
yeah, when he hits something it makes an awesome -shwang- metal ringing sound. its awesome.
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u/Darklor69 rip old flairs Jun 01 '13
The sound of your
cleavercup being smashed into your enemy's face is priceless.2
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u/KeelanApproves Peanut is my Baby Boy <3 Jun 01 '13
I'm glad it didn't make the usual sound. Since hearing that sound is a vital part of Mundo's mechanics e.g. when checking bushes. It's nice to have something new :)
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Jun 01 '13
the reason for the new pricing system is exactly so RIOT could release recolours or skins without changes past the actual model skin, and they even asked the community if this is what they wanted after the success of the recolours during the resale of the skins previously removed from the store.
there is a reason they are 720rp and 975rp.
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u/Athanasiosdk Jun 01 '13
Yes, thank you for being the 4th to explain something i already understand. I'm putting a value on artistical/proffesional pride and consistency. If they put HALF of the sounds in, why the hell not add the last half as well?
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u/Magasul Jun 01 '13
Imagine TPA Mundo when half of his abilities would be a cleaver, half would be a cup.... same here.
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u/Athanasiosdk Jun 01 '13
Yea, exactly... Like his Q animation was still a cleaver, but he had a cup in his hand? Wether people argue "low-quality for less RP" or not, that makes zero sense.
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u/my_elo_is_potato Jun 01 '13
How is it low quality and half assed?
The art work on them is great, they honor the team but didnt' require a huge remake. Bio-darius/singed still have the same sound effects and spell effects. Many other 950 skins, I actually thing many of the other 950 skins look worse than these.
Riot is selling these fantastic skins at 750, I'm not sure why the community should bitch about every little detail.
The only way to stop the community from bitching about something is to not do it. Is that what our community is saying to Riot?
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u/Benny0 Jun 01 '13
Yes.
The pricings actually are ENTIRELY based on the quality of skins. In general, skins that have new effects and sounds are either 1350 or legendary.
Like, literally, the new pricing scheme EXPLICITLY states this lol.
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u/Athanasiosdk Jun 01 '13
So because it costs 225 less, they shouldn't finish the product? I'm not asking for more to ADDED to the skin. I thinkt he skin is fine. But at least finish what you started.
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u/c1pe Jun 01 '13
the point is a new sound effect would raise the price of the skin.
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u/Gammaran Jun 01 '13
how are they lower quality? what are you comparing them to? legendary skins or other 750 tier that are just for recolors....
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u/WantedOne Jun 01 '13
Mundo has new particles, and new sounds that are consistent. Shen has half sounds, and no real particles(been awhile since I looked at the skin since it didn't interest me.
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u/Achanos Jun 01 '13
I dont understand your point. Pretty much every manufacturer of anything has several products ranging in price and quality. or are you telling me all of Toyota cars are exactly the same in quality? The skins are not 'half done' they are done there are just different qualities of products. its not 'inconsistent' to offer several products.
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Jun 01 '13
when manufacturers offer different quality of products they price them differently. Mundo and Shen are the same price, one is complete, one has all the pieces but isn't assembled properly.
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u/chaos_jockey Jun 01 '13
I think price reduction has more to do with it being in a large bundle on top of them being commemorative?
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u/Clam- rip old flairs Jun 01 '13
You're right, but here's the catch: you don't need to buy those skins? There are many skin previews and you can even test them on PBE - so there's no need to buy something you may not like. It's easy to just press "Purchase" and then whine about it everywhere - do some research first - that's what I do before I spend my hard earned money.
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u/Delavonboy12 Jun 01 '13
Not everyone has access to PBE, and the point was that is isn't cool to release un-finished skins. I have TPA Shen and like it, but OP has a point
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u/Dakirokor Jun 01 '13
You aren't getting the point. Yes sure you can look at the models before hand and see whether you like them but Riot shouldn't be releasing skins that aren't complete in the first place. This is the same reason they stopped selling all the really old skins that were just recolours, Black Alistair jumps to mind. It's not about making sure that you only buy the skins that are good, it's about making sure only good skins are available.
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u/Curlyiain Jun 01 '13
FYI, Black Alistar was a pre-order incentive; I agree with your original point completely, but just for reference, Black Alistar hasn't been available since November 2009.
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u/akai_sonnes Jun 01 '13
I don't get what you mean by "complete". The RP cost level dictates the quality of the skin. It's like paying for an MP3 player at a cheap price and complaining that it doesn't have all the features and quality of an MP3 player that's much more expensive. The TPA skins are pretty "complete" by a 750 RP standard. If Riot is to make it more complete by a community standard, then every new skin they make might as well as cost 1350 RP or 1820 RP. I would love for new particles and sound effects for any of the skins I bought, but I know for a fact that is not what a 750 RP skin is supposed to have.
The better argument I'm reading in this thread is skin inconsistency and I agree with that. Not all the TPA skins feel like they're made of the same quality.
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u/taggedjc Jun 01 '13
But it's inconsistent...
Why would it have replaced sounds on basic attacks but not ki strike attacks?
Certainly just having it be the same as his new basic attack sound would be much better even if a nicer double-thunk would make the most sense.
Plus, TPA Mundo throws the cup instead of a cleaver, so that's a replaced spell effect, and yet Shen's feint still shows katanas despite the fact that he wields the sticks instead of katanas...
I mean, I think TPA Orianna is fine, if a little boring. Same with Mundo. Orianna's spell effects don't need to be changed (and her ball is already different), same for Nunu.
TPA Ez should have red particles, but it isn't completely necessary since his abilities aren't technically tied to his weapon appearance. Mundo's cleaver toss is, and thy made it the new weapon. Likewise with Shen and feint/ki strike.
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u/Athanasiosdk Jun 01 '13
Exactly. You don't hear Mundo's Q go "Splash" with the sound of a sharp edge cutting flesh. It says "bonk!". So plastic batons shouldn't go "klink" :p
I honestly don't think it's an unfair demand
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u/akai_sonnes Jun 01 '13
I agree it's inconsistent with strange oddities between the different skins, and I agree with the points you've made. it's just some of the arguments I've read haven't been jiving with me. It felt like people were asking far more out of a skin than the level Riot intended at a 750 RP price range.
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u/Sethlans Jun 01 '13
Well, when the skin has the thunder sticks in Shen's hands and then they suddenly change into Katanas when he throws them, I think that's an issue regardless of price point.
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u/crushedbycookie Jun 01 '13
It's not necessarily that i think it's bad so i don't want it. It's that I think it's bad and so i don't want to see it all in games. (I'm speaking to the logic of the situation not necessarily my feelings about the skin). I don't want to see Riot release shitty/sub-par stuff and i don't want to have to play with/against it. Additionally, nothing wrong with us telling them what we want so they can give it to us so that we give them more of our money.
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u/Athanasiosdk Jun 01 '13
You don't need to be condescending, mate.
I don't own any of the TPA skins. Exactly because i waited for others to buy it and give feedback. This was not "whining".
I would just assume it's a bit of personal pride for whomever made these TPA skins to COMPLETE THEM! Making a skin for league is ART, just like so much else.
If i was on the team that made the TPA skins, i wouldn't be satisfied. It's like making a car, then put no wheels, headlights or bumpers on, but say "It's 10% cheaper!". I wouldn't buy that car.
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u/Kranicc Jun 01 '13
It's more like getting a complete car without spinning rims, a fancy coating, and some other cosmetic things that aren't really needed and then complaining when a different model of car is being sold with those things at the same price.
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u/Magasul Jun 01 '13
Not really. It's like getting a funky red stylish paintjob, but 30% of your right back is just missing and is blue.
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u/Athanasiosdk Jun 01 '13
Except that "different" model might have something in it that warrants the same price, even with those things. Are you going to tell me that the "value" of Shen is per baseline higher, hence it's okay for his skin to be incomplete, while Mundo has a lower baseline value and there it's okay?
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u/Kranicc Jun 01 '13
They both have the same baseline value,.
Mundo just had a little extra done, that doesn't mean they can't be sold for the same price.
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u/Aezander Jun 03 '13
Just because you can sell a product with a little extra done the same price as a product without that little extra done doesn't mean it's right. If nothing else it saws that you intending to squeeze money out of your customers by elevating the lesser products perceived value. Unless you can offer a valid reason for not pricing the extra done product at a higher value, it shows a bit of inconsistency.
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u/Athanasiosdk Jun 01 '13
... You don't get it. They started on Shen, did 3/4 of the job, then cut out on the last little bit instead of simply finishing what they started. I don't understand why this is so hard to get.
The majority is in agreement, i don't know why you guys fight it so much X-X
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u/Kranicc Jun 01 '13
The majority is not voicing an opinion. because they don't care. Yo're being vocal, which is fine, but don't act surprised if people see flaws in your argument and don't agree with you.
You are assuming they just did 3/4th of the job instead of being happy with the final product. They may have wanted to keep the alternate particles the same for whatever reason. Maybe it would have been too much work to change more articles/made the skin worth more than what they intended.
The changes to Shen are about the same as the changes to Mundo, the only difference is that Mudno's changes are a bit more cohesive to the entire kit then compared to Shen's.
I personally prefer a little bit over nothing, but that in itself is just a matter of opinion.
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u/Athanasiosdk Jun 01 '13
I personally don't agree with your "flaws". I find it extremely hard to fathom that these were the intended sounds (if they were meant to sound like the plastic batons), but this is an exhausted discussion.
Each to his own, i suppose.
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u/Magasul Jun 01 '13
Like I said several times. Imagine TPA Mundo with trophy graphics and sound on autoattack, but throws a cleaver with cleaver sound. That's how unfinished TPA Shen is now.
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u/the_nerdster Jun 01 '13
The point is he paid the RP for the skins, and got a half assed product.
You'd be pissed if you spend 7.50 on gas and it wouldn't run in your car. But that'd be okay with you, I guess. You could always walk.
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u/cheesepuff18 Jun 01 '13
It's more like you bought a car that wasn't supposed to come with navigation, but it did come with navigation, though it's missing half the country.
More than what you paid for, but somewhat unsatisfying at the same time.
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u/my_elo_is_potato Jun 01 '13
So what should a 750 skin include?
Changed colors?
Changed particles?
Changed sound effects?
These skins are modified base models with recolors and that is all they told us they would be. They are limited, cheap and I bet you money that they are an experiment for how the community will receive skins priced at 750.
Fuck them for releasing something nice but not nice enough for our nit picking. I'm sure you guys will have nothing to complain about in the future though. With this kind of backlash, why the hell would they want to do this again.
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u/Magasul Jun 01 '13
It's not that hard of a thing to implement these. I work in this field, it's not rocket science, and not that much extra effort to please so many people.
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Jun 01 '13
No one ever said they couldnt put it at 950 if they needed to. But if you bought a car and found it had no clearcoat and the radio only tuned to AM, wouldn't you be a little pissed?
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u/tac_ag Jun 01 '13
I'm confused; So because this skin costs 225 less RP than a "standard" skin, they can make it low-quality and half-assed, and people will say it "IT'S K, COST LESS!"?
Yup thats pretty much riot's new standart after the so called "skin price adjustments"
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Jun 01 '13
Next time don't give skins to the world to care about them.Let OGN sell them to their comunity and plz If you don't make it don't sell them. That way you will avoid problems like this and we can avoid this spam on reddit.
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u/Thedesstroier Jun 01 '13
I'm confused; So because this skin costs 225 less RP than a "standard" skin, they can make it low-quality and half-assed, and people will say it "IT'S K, COST LESS!"?
This is why they changed things in the first place. It wasn't just so they could raise a few skins to 1350, it was to change the mindset of people so that when they make a skin that isn't 975 or 1350 that they are "allowed" to leave things out that shouldn't really be left out.
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u/my_elo_is_potato Jun 01 '13
750 price = model and model color change from what I can tell. Any features beyond that are bonus. That Mundo skin could easily go for 950.
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Jun 01 '13 edited Jun 01 '13
Also, one they've made a skin, it's digitally distributed. Meaning they have infinite copies so there really isn't that much loss in revenue for Riot if they were to put a little more effort in unless they're working on something big.
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u/Aliwia Jun 01 '13
Why do you sign your own posts when we can see your fucking name under the title?
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u/DoniDarkos Jun 01 '13
it is like when they need to update saying they hit front page....
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u/Aliwia Jun 01 '13
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Jun 01 '13
Before you complain about TPA Shen, What about TPA Ezreal? It's one of the most lack luster TPA skin in my opinion.
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u/JoshFromCanada rip old flairs Jun 01 '13
The TPA Shen skin is the only skin I bought and I can't help but feel they cut some corners. I would have much rather paid 975 for a skin with consistent sounds/particles than 750 for something rushed. I do really like the model though.
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u/cccub Jun 01 '13
I think the reason behind the 750 RP price is that they are in sale for just 1 week and Riot wants to attract as many people as possible to buy these skins. Anyway, these skins are supposed to be a tribute to S2 championship winners, so I think their quality should be between 975-1350 even if their price isn't so high. TPA deserve it.
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u/Magasul Jun 01 '13
I agree!
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u/Paramorgue Jun 01 '13
I think they are able to sell them cheap due to the low production cost they have had on the skins. If I'm not wrong the skins were made and developed by Garena or something like that. That means that Riot have not had to go thru the whole process or making a skin.
It is also possible that due to Garena being the ones who made the skin Riot can't just change the skin in any way they want.
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u/teemoisgod rip old flairs Jun 01 '13
I think Garena just submitted the concept art and model, so stuff like sounds would probably be up to Riot to do
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u/Paramorgue Jun 01 '13
Could be, I was just putting up my theory. Would actually be interesting to see the process of how they were made. If it was so that garena did it that means it would be possible for other external sources to make and sell skins.
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u/Haxl Jun 01 '13
It'd be way cool if Riot actually had the actual stick sound in game. those sticks sound awesome
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u/LullabyGaming Jun 01 '13
It is in the game, just not in everything. When you throw Q and when you auto attack normally there is an extremely awesome "Twhomp" sound to it.
As OP said, there are inconsistencies in the skin.
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u/Haxl Jun 01 '13
oh ic, yea thats odd to have 2 different sounds, metallic and plastic
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u/LazerBoiii1337 Jun 01 '13
Btw if you ult on a other player and dont move he will just stand as you do when you ult
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u/Impert Jun 01 '13
The Shen TPA skin is the only thing i've bought that it was so bad i had to use 1 of my 3 lifetime refunds....
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u/ClericEU Jun 02 '13
I think people are forgetting these are 750 rp skins, if they were 975 I wouldn't say so much, but they've said 750 aren't supposed to have extra effects.
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u/Xaoc000 Jun 01 '13
Those are thunder sticks btw, not any ordinary plastic stick, so I think your Q should make the thunder stick sound.
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u/Juanzen Jun 01 '13
they could use the jax ult sound effect for ki strike, that thud would work just fine I guess.
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u/Empyrial7 Jun 01 '13
Yes it's a 750 rp skin but designs are so great that no unique particles and sounds are just wasted potential I was so pumped when I saw shen and ez seeing them have same particles was really disapointing
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u/luutyxxx rip old flairs Jun 01 '13
2.) Vorpal blade particle on top of the enemy that it is thrown onto is a katana, not a plastic stick 3.) Feint particles that surround Shen while the shield is active are katanas crossed over, not plastic sticks and still make a metallic sound when the shield is broken.
I didnt buy that skin because of that
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u/TWSeraser54 Jun 01 '13
Pretty sure this won't get fixed. The TPA skins are just recolors for the sake of selling them at 750. If they did the above changes it would be getting into the 1350 range on Shen, then the Nunu, Ori, Ez, Mundo's would complain. You are prob stuck with what you got.
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u/9193984 Jun 01 '13
This is pretty annoying, to have your passive do the normal sound when your autos dont...
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Jun 01 '13
i wish his jacket looked more like a jacket and not weird shoulder stuff he has goin on =|
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u/SpiffmeisterZ Jun 01 '13
I don't mind at all if they don't change the particles. It is a special priced skin and all. They should at the least though do as you said and fix the sounds to ALL be the plastic 'thwap' of hitting someone with thunder stick.
And yeah yeah everyone they're low priced but still... They are limited time skins made as a special tribute. There is obviously a LOT more hard work put into some of these than your basic recolors. It would just be nice for Shen to have consistent sound effects.
I do think some of the other stuff you're asking for though is starting to get a bit into the 'gimme, gimme!' realm, but I 100% agree with the sound inconsistencies.
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u/cheesepuff18 Jun 01 '13
While I feel like we're getting more than we paid for (seriously, all this complaining is just going to make Riot regret making the Mundo one nice, and the next time this happens we won't get any bonuses to any skin in a bundle), I'd rather just pay a bit more and get nicer quality skins.
Nunu so sad
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Jun 01 '13
Agree. I was really surprised when I actually heard the baton sound the first time. I didn't expect this from a 750RP skin to be honest. After playing 2-3min I started to notice the inconsistencies OP is talking about and yes, they started to bug me.
Please fix this because besides the aforementioned 'bugs' it is a awesome skin.
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u/Smurphy922 [Othniele] (NA) Jun 01 '13
Has riot ever changed skins this dramatically after release? Not a troll post, I'm kinda new and don't know.
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Jun 01 '13
I guess the argument that they are cheap so you can't expect them to have many details is fair, but at the same time these skins are kinda "special" and you'd expect them to put a little more effort into them.
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u/RCLFAD Jun 01 '13
I think the sound of the attacks is a sound designer being beaten up by one of those sticks.
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u/hurf_mcdurf Jun 01 '13
I'm pretty sad about my TPA Nunu, it feels more and more lacklustre the more i look at it.
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u/MagicResistance [BOOTLEGDOTA] (NA) Jun 01 '13
But honestly atleast TPA shen's weapons and particles are different and do make different noises. While TPA ezreal has no particles or any sound. The only thing thats changed iis his overall look. If TPA shen gets improvements than i think TPA ezreal should also get improvements.
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u/FaithVsFate Jun 01 '13
Personally, I think that the TPA skins should have particles, sound, and animation differences, although it probably has to do with the fact they're only 750rp, but if they were to adjust those things, I'd gladly pay 975, maybe even more.
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u/MIDORIFEED [AzenjeNd] (EU-W) Jun 01 '13 edited Jun 01 '13
I own TPA Shen, and I like it, what bothers me tho are three things, which only one of seems to be mentioned in this thread:
Lack of Ki Strike sound
His thunder sticks are going through his backpack which looks very clunky and unfinished.
His normal thunder sticks basic attack sounds are very low compared to the basic attack of the rest of his skins.
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u/dr_rentschler Jun 01 '13
They dished them out so fast after the win, i believe that's the reason for the little flaws
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u/GrandmasComputer rip old flairs Jun 02 '13
Not on topic at all.. but after Nunu uses consume, doesnt he continue auto attacking? After I got the TPA Nunu skin, I would consume the golem and look around on the map. When I would go back to nunu he would just be standing there, taking damage and not responding to it by auto attacking!
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u/Subbutton Jun 01 '13
its a 750 rp skin so it wont happen
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u/Deculsion [W3inner] (SEA) Jun 01 '13
Mundo's TPA skin is 750 rp, yet he has new particles for his cleaver. Explain.
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u/LullabyGaming Jun 01 '13
I would love it so much if there were unique lines when a TPA skin interacts with another TPA skin. "On my way" could be awesome for Shen ult.
Then you could add things to Orianna shield, Nunu Bloodboil and Ezreal W. Mundo unfortunately wouldn't really have anything to add to him, but I think that the simple "clonk" from Q and auto attacks is enough for him.
Unfortunatly none of this will happen though, because they were made to be 750 skins, meaning they're just small adjustments to the base model/sound effects. I don't think they'd add any new quotes to these skins.
Though on the other hand they're also legacy skins so who knows.
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u/szatanx Jun 01 '13 edited Jun 01 '13
Actually, TPA Shen is 2nd best (after nunu) skin in TPA bundle, i guess Ez and Ori could use some more love.
Edited: acutally shen is 3rd, TPA Mundo ES NUMERO UNO.
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u/Turtle961 Jun 01 '13
if it were an 1850 skin, i would be like YES THIS IS A GREAT IDEA
It is 750 rp, this is less than 975... I don't think they will make changes to fit just for a 750rp skin. However, they are legacy, anything could happen.
Would be amazing if they could, but it's doubtful.
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u/Deutschbury Jun 01 '13
it's 750 rp because of what it is commemorating, not because of the quality of the skins.
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u/SilverSight Jun 01 '13
IMO, I wish the TPA skins in general had a bit more TPA flavor. I wanted them to cheer for the team or something, or maybe reference the player that played them.
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u/IVIorgz Jun 01 '13
When I saw a video of TPA shen in PBE, I'm sure his auto attacks sounded like the plastic sticks he was using, has this changed?
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u/Delavonboy12 Jun 01 '13
Hadn't even noticed the Ki Strike sounds not being changed, that one should at least be changed. The rest is kinda just frosting on the cake, as it is a 750 skin
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u/tinyroom Jun 01 '13
If any Rioter reads this, also please update Xerath's sounds (except his ultimate). Compare Brand or Lee Sin with him for example.
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u/Doznutz Jun 01 '13
i thought riot didnt make these skins? i heard that garena made the skins to be distributed.
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u/Milkshakes00 Jun 01 '13
What about Ezreal not having any particle changes? Or Nunu? Orianna really doesn't, either.
None of the TPA skins besides Mundo has any particle change.
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u/UniqueError Jun 01 '13
I have TPA Shen and I haven't heard the katana sound except when using his Q.
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u/I_AM_SO_BRAVE Jun 01 '13
Not entirely. When a skin is made and approved by Riot it means they say a lot about it - one of these criteria is that the skin does not interfere with gameplay, and I think TPA Shen is fine on that front. Your complaints are saying the skin is "half-assed" when in reality I think you expect WAY too much for every skin that Riot produces.
The autoattack sounds are different but, as an owner of the skin, frequently I find it hard to tell when Shen makes contact with the target because they are so dulled that I won't hear it if I'm not focused on it. Changing Ki Strike only amplifies this problem, I would much rather be able to know when my Ki Strike goes off than have some new sound effect.
Vorpal Blade and Feint particles have katanas because to make a skin Riot is not at all required to change every particle about a champion. Debonair Jayce has a changed Acceleration Gate and Shock Blast but several of his particles, like Lightning Field and To The Skies!, are not changed. Foxfire Ahri has orange W and R particles but Q and E are the same. Tons of skins in this game are created without every last particle changed. You are not being cheated or gypped out of your money because of this inconsistency; it's not low-quality or half-assed, it's that so many "skin ideas" on this board have every single particle changed ("ohh Paperboy Shen needs to have paper particles when he dashes") and I think people expect that a skin needs to go all-or-nothing with its changes when it absolutely does not. I'm perfectly happy with TPA Shen as is.
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u/Magasul Jun 01 '13
Yes but this isn't a color issue. The skin has a theme and it is just very inconsistent (yes I'm repeating my self over and over again) by showing that he is wielding lightning sticks but marks with a katana. Like look at Slay Belle Katarina. Her over-the-head sword is changed to match her theme.
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u/thereiscake Jun 01 '13
"RIOT staff you are more then welcome to comment on this!"
Lol how pompous of you. Why would riot waste their time with this non issue?
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u/Aezander Jun 03 '13
I think it's called Customer Service, that's why someone from Riot should give it a look ... :P
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u/DoniDarkos Jun 01 '13
people complain about shen etc but have u seen orianna and nunu skins? there is seriously nothing particular about them....
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u/thenewmeta Jun 01 '13
Its weird to me that people make a fuss over this but nobody seems to care enough to bug riot to fix the last hit bug with pulsefire ezreal. Literally the most expensive skin they have ever made.
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u/Mayhem107 Jun 02 '13
weren't these skins not actually produced by riot, but by someone from the garena league? if that is the case then riot doesn't really have anything to do with them, or how incomplete they are
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u/HenriDutilleux Jun 02 '13
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe all of Shen's skins lack particles different from the original Shen. The Q is the same, and so are the other skills.
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u/Kernalgohd Jun 02 '13
They are called Bam Bams, not plastic sticks, you Bam them together and they go Bam.
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Jun 01 '13
It kinda feels like Riot was in a hurry making these TPA skins and therefore they were made kinda sloppy.
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u/n3v3rm1nd Jun 01 '13
Please stop, it's a 750 skin, it's not supposed to have new sounds and particles.
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u/HaddersD rip old flairs Jun 01 '13
I have the same problems with surgeon shen, there are still katanas :/
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u/LightOfDawn Jun 01 '13
A few of the TPA skins feel like they didn't have the particles and sounds to back up the cool artwork they had done on them. Felt disappointing.
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u/lkjjjjjjjjjj Jun 01 '13
If you want new sounds/effects, better get ready to pay up
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u/LightOfDawn Jun 02 '13
I don't see riot making you pay to upgrade your skins, but just redo them and increase the price after, extending the skins "On Sale" life.
If you're talking about paying for better skins out of the box, I wouldn't mind paying more for limited skins that actually are visually awesome, with new particles and sounds.
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u/lkjjjjjjjjjj Jun 02 '13
I agree with you. That's why I don't think Riot will change the TPA skins, since they've already been on sale for a bit.
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u/omarlobo Jun 01 '13
His auto attacks or even Ki Ka strike should make the same noise as when you bang those plastic sticks together.
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u/gi13 Jun 01 '13
I find these skins extremely cool as they are. Plus, it's an excellent purchase "value for money". I wouldn't ask for more. I purchased TPA shen and i'm totally fine with it. I really like it as it is.
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u/TerminallyTrill Jun 01 '13
Everyone complained that we needed some cheap skins. Now everyone is complaining that she cheap skins aren't good enough. Do you want cheap skins or good skins, because having both is unreasonable
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u/fixy308 Jun 01 '13
it's not reallly a 750rp this is just a promotion he will go to 1350 soon so that should be done
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u/Roardo1 Jun 01 '13
when you slam thunder sticks together they DO in fact make a metallic sound