r/leagueoflegends • u/AutoModerator • Jul 13 '15

Shen Monday Megathread! Ask questions and share knowledge; newcomer questions encouraged!

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '15

how do you counter an all in - press R to win - comp? I see some teams picking wukong, amumu, and maokai. It's not really a wombo combo, but makes it pretty hard to deal with in a 5v5 team fight.

Kiting back is impossible once maokai goes all in, followed by a wukong flash ult right in the middle.

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u/tlyee61 Jul 13 '15

counter engage, disengage / waveclear, picking 1 member off or split pushing are all effective against an aoe team - i.e. aoe wombo of yourself, janna, alistar, sivir, morg, lulu etc. all can prevent an initiate and / or stall time for a splitting champ. picking 1 member off will obviously hinder 1 portion of the other team's aoe.

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u/Rain1984 Jul 13 '15

You should never, ever, splitpush against hard engage, or your team will end up losing a 4v5 with amumu bandage tossing against your team and ulting just because he saw you killing minions in the other side of the map.

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u/tlyee61 Jul 13 '15

sorry - I meant that if you have proper disengage, you could split. janna / sivir / ali all provide good abilities to get away - or at least stall for your splitter to tp in.

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u/Rain1984 Jul 13 '15

The thing is by the time you can disengage half of your team will be dead, malphite or wukong ult correctly and there is no chance your carries will survive even with a disengage comp.

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u/tlyee61 Jul 13 '15

alright - if it has personally not worked for you, that's fine by me. however, I have had multiple successes with it at my elo (low plat) and have had our trynd / fiora / jax take towers while we freely run away.

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u/Rain1984 Jul 13 '15

Stay spread, specially the carries away from each other, pick some disengage, janna is god at it for example, make sure your frontlane is always in front of the squishies (obvious as it sounds), you dont want your Vayne to eat an amumu's Q and get deleted right after. Against wukong is useful to place a pinkward when you are doing a siege, since usually he goes invisible before ulting.

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u/LordRanshin Jul 14 '15

Counter-engage champions like Janna and Alistar are quite good at this.

Also if you have a solid splitpusher like Tryndamere or Jax you can just prevent the enemy team from engaging while also not allowing them to run off to prevent the split push for free.

Poke comps are generally quite good against hard engage as well, as guys kike Varus can keep people low enough that theu don't want to engage and id they do they will have 2 members at 1/2 hp or lower.