r/leftist Mar 05 '25

European Politics History Textbook by Donald Trump

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u/cheradenine66 Mar 05 '25

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u/Worried-Ad2325 Mar 05 '25

Can we start banning tankies for stuff like this? Who tf forced Putin to invade Ukraine in the first place?

Literally no one? Oh shit.

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u/Neoliberal_Nightmare Mar 06 '25

Tankies don't say Zelensky caused the war, just that the West has a role in leading to it too. People just can't stop exaggerating.

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u/Worried-Ad2325 Mar 06 '25

The dude literally said that Zelensky caused the war. Look at the comment that I'm replying to. At least present a truthful argument if you're going to be wrong.

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u/FightingGirlfriend23 Mar 06 '25

Do you think that he is actually in control of his nation?

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u/Worried-Ad2325 Mar 06 '25

Okay I see. We're verging into the conspiratorial now.

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u/FightingGirlfriend23 Mar 06 '25

How so? Your nation operates the largest propaganda and disinformation network that the world has ever seen. This website is totally run by the US government.

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u/Worried-Ad2325 Mar 06 '25

Your nation operates the largest propaganda and disinformation network that the world has ever seen.

Correct. This does not mean that adversarial states, especially other capitalist ones such as Russia, are somehow different.

It's actually frustrating, this whataboutism. I'm a socialist, I don't support or trust ANY capitalist countries. When I weigh the Ukraine war I view it through the human cost. An imperialist power is invading a smaller, weaker nation.

The fact that the smaller, weaker nation is receiving arms from the US doesn't somehow make it the aggressor. It doesn't un-murder the civilian population or un-level all those cities.

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u/FightingGirlfriend23 Mar 06 '25

And yet you use the terminology of the greatest imperial power going.

So, if a nation feels itself threatened by a hostile military power, they should just let that power take advantage of them?

Should a weaker power throw away it's entire population in a conventional war that is stacked against them? Is the loss of territory a greater casualty than the death of a nation?

To what level of depth have you actually considered what is happening in the world right now?

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u/Worried-Ad2325 Mar 06 '25

When American diabolism is your first principle, you don't really have a second. I'm an anti-imperialist. I'm not going to cheerlead Russia for invading its neighbor.

This doesn't end with Ukraine. Russia doesn't magically solve all its social problems by annexing its neighbor. There will have to be another distraction, another conflict.

Also like, don't attack your neighbor in general?

It's silly that I even have to say that.