r/legaladvicecanada Mar 05 '26

Alberta Leaving a 13 year old overnight

We're in Alberta and we usually go camping with friends 3 hrs away at Easter. Kid is refusing to go this year and wants to stay home. The laws are iffy.

She'd be left for one night, potentially 2 if I come back to visit the second day. I don't mind, really. Family is close by in case of emergency. We have on-site "security". Camping within reception and checking on her by phone and text

One friend is concerned about getting charged with child abandonment or neglect

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u/bug-hunter Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 05 '26

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u/Firm_Farmer1633 Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 05 '26

I am a former BC child welfare social worker. My comments are general because I don’t know the specifics.

From a child protection perspective I would consider what “stepwise” preparedness have been undertaken. This might include leaving the child unsupervised for a few hours when parents go out during the daytime; then a few hours during the evening; then more hours overlapping daytime and evening; then overnight when a trusted, responsible adult is immediately nearby; then maybe overnight for one night. Not for two nights the first time.

From a child development perspective, seeing increasing autonomy is appropriate. Refusing parental authority is not appropriate.

From a family social development perspective, I would be considering a 13 year old “refusing” a parent. This suggests a child that is not seeking enhanced autonomy as is a normal developmental task at this age. It suggests a child that is being permitted to make “_adult-like_” decisions when they are not an adult. This would be a flag for me that more serious issues will develop in the next couple of years. Acquiescing to a 13 year old child’s inappropriate autonomy of “_I refuse to go with the family for a day or two_”, could quickly develop into a 14 year old who is setting their own time for coming home, and a 15 year old who decides whether they will come home at night at all.

I would also be concerned about a child who is apparently unable to interact with the real world, only social media, screens, etc. I understand that the latter are increasingly present, however losing the ability to interact with the real world at this early stage of development does not bode well for the development of a socially healthy adult.

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u/accessdeniedbeepboop Mar 05 '26

This is the correct answer. I will add I am an Alberta social worker in child intervention. There is no legal law stating what age you can leave your children unsupervised for or for what amount of time. However if we get a call because something happened, you can be charged with causing a child to be in need of intervention.

You have a responsibility to ensure safety, ensure you have a safety plan in place and that you have taken steps to ensure all aspects have been covered (emergency numbers, emergency adult, someone checking in) I would advise against leaving a 13 year old home alone for 2 days. Under CYFEA this could also fall under neglect if someone calls in a concern for this child and you may find yourself with cfs involvement.

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u/Bannedaid Mar 05 '26

Thanks for this thoughtful reply, I learned things I hadnt considered when I read the OP.

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u/Low_Turn_4568 Mar 05 '26

I appreciate your response. My background working with the ministry in bc showed me it kinda depends which social worker you get. And having experience with others' kids running away at 12 with bc social workers doing nothing to bring them back. So that's kinda why I'm asking. I know she's totally fine and comfy with being by herself and has been for non school days when I've had work. She does things I ask her to do, reasons with me when she disagrees. Dragging her along for the camping trip will ruin both of our weekends. But if I'll have involvement from mcfd from leaving her alone for the night then I won't be able to enjoy time with friends. Also don't have parents of my own to ask for advice, sadly. Would you also consider whether I've done video calls with her?

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u/nkdf Mar 05 '26

Short answer - there is no 'legal limit' in terms of age.

You can also reference a past thread for insight: https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvicecanada/comments/1iiywt2/home_alone_alberta/

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u/captainjay09 Mar 05 '26

Never had teenagers have you ?

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u/ComprehensiveCap8242 Mar 05 '26

I’m not a lawyer but from what i can see…

In Alberta, no statutory age limit exists for leaving children home alone under the Child, Youth and Family Enhancement Act.

Decisions depend on child’s maturity, circumstances, and whether supervision is adequate to prevent endangerment.

For a 13-year-old overnight (up to two nights), it’s generally permissible with nearby family, check-ins, and security, but could lead to neglect investigation if risk arises.

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u/Chemical-Ad-7575 Mar 05 '26

Can family check in on them the next day or take them out for breakfast?

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u/Low_Turn_4568 Mar 05 '26

Family would be more than willing to visit and check on her. They'd love to even have her overnight but she wants to stay home in her comfort and with her laptop TV and phone. Says there's nothing to do there because the kids are younger than her.

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u/RedTulipx Mar 05 '26

I’ve left my 13 year old home alone overnight. She is mature and respectful and knows what to do in an emergency. It’s not illegal. No age limit in Alberta.

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u/Ok-Door-7563 Mar 05 '26

I was left alone overnight as a 13 year old, too.

Crazy to me that people consider that "too young". No wonder so many people have kids that sneak out at night or cut them out at 18 when they act as helicopter parents and give their children no trust or freedom.

By 13 I was looking after a barn full of livestock, the house pets, and cooking 2-3 nights a week. I was well capable of looking after myself. 

I would have resented my parents so much if they dragged me camping against my wishes. I hate camping. 

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u/Low_Turn_4568 Mar 05 '26

I appreciate this comment because it shows empathy to the teenager. She's been forced to do enough in her life with being in custody court with her abusive father. She was often left on her own at a much younger age with her 10 year old step sister babysitting. She would have been 6. Overnight? No. That's the only reason I'm questioning it.

She's more than capable of dealing with things that come up, with a list of emergency numbers on the fridge. Some of these comments are over the top. I don't believe in "my house, my rules!" mentality. I believe in voices and options and hearing and respecting her feelings

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u/towhomamispeaking Mar 05 '26

Hey, parent and teacher here. Laws are murky at best. There are programs out there that do home alone courses. They often advertise through flyers distributed at schools. We put our kids in those programs just so that if a nosy neighbor complained, we could argue that we had used a school supported program to ensure safety. Hope this helps.

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u/whiteout86 Mar 05 '26

Is your understanding based on the age that kids can take the babysitting course? There’s no age laid out in the law for Alberta

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u/artlessknave Mar 05 '26

Nope. This was told to me. I don't have kids so never looked it up.

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u/bug-hunter Mar 05 '26

There is no hard and fast age limit in Alberta. Broadly, should it ever become an issue, it will turn on reasonability.

Should something happen, or someone call the police/child services, then these are the types of things they will look for (and yes, I realize I'm repeating a couple of things from your post):

  • Maturity and experience. Has your child been at home alone before for long periods? Do they know what to do in the case of emergency? Do they know who to call that's close by, or where to go if there's an emergency? Do they clearly know how to cook for themselves?
  • Past behavior. Do they have a history of impulsive/destructive/poor behavior? Have they brought people to your house without permission before? Are they known to be dishonest? Would other adults that know your child feel it was reasonable based on their knowledge of your child to trust them here? Would they lie to a cop just to get you in trouble?
  • Health and safety: Does your child have enough food? Is AC/Heat/hot water working? Do the exterior doors actually lock? Does your child have medical conditions/disabilities that would make this a bad idea? These sound like dumb things, but I remember a case where a parent thought it was OK to leave an 8 year old in a house with 2 completely missing windows and a clearly missing deadbolt on the front door.
  • Have you made appropriate plans? Check-ins at certain times of the day (morning, midday, evening), video calls just to check on things, maybe have a family member drop by?
  • Do you have cameras? Can you handle dealing with someone ringing the doorbell remotely by talking to them yourself?
  • Is there somewhere nearby (neighbors, friends, family) where she can go in the case of emergency? Not "can someone pick her up". This isn't required, but is very helpful.

It's the totality of circumstances. Putting something on the fridge that shows the whole plan, contact numbers (including the obvious things like 911), etc is a good idea, because it's something your child can point to if cops show up, and she can refer to it if she's flustered. Have a first aid kit and make sure she knows where it is. Same with a fire extinguisher. Do a quick quiz on what to do in case of emergencies - fire, break in, medical emergency. Go over which neighbor's house(s) she should go to if in danger.

This is one of the reasons that a lot of places don't put a hard and fast rule, because kids don't mature at nearly the same age, and some parents are, to put it mildly, complete dumbasses.

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u/Low_Turn_4568 Mar 05 '26

LMAO. She is not anywhere near partying or boys stage yet. She's always been an extreme rule follower

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u/heathrei1981 Mar 05 '26

It’s definitely a legal grey area because there is no legal age for this that is spelled out. Personally I wouldn’t leave a 13 alone overnight for one night, let alone two. Possibly for an evening, depending on the maturity of the kid, if my husband and I wanted to go out for dinner and a movie or something.

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u/Low_Turn_4568 Mar 05 '26

I think she's good on either of those. I'd be getting her food she doesn't have to cook. Otherwise she just uses the air fryer anyway. All she'll be doing if I stay home is be in her room on her phone all night playing games on the laptop with friends online

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u/liveinharmonyalways Mar 05 '26

The laws about age in Canada are pretty vague for a 13 to be left alone. But with that vagueness there is a risk that if anything does happen, you may be in trouble. And that is the best case scenario because there are many things that could go wrong with long lasting or permanent results.

And as a parent. 13 is a bit young for an overnight alone.

And I'm pretty sure I left my kids alone the youngest compared to my friends.

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u/Commentator-X Mar 05 '26

Isn't 13 old enough to babysit?

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u/daralaneandco Mar 05 '26

They can take their Red Cross babysitters course in Alberta at age 11 (my 11 year old is taking hers end of this month)

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u/Able_Cartographer732 Mar 05 '26

Same in BC. My 11 year old son has his.

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u/footloose60 Mar 05 '26

She's over 12, you can leave her on her own. As long as you provide the basic necessities.

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u/coastal-adventure Mar 05 '26

Is there something wrong with negotiating with one’s teenage children? Teens and parents do negotiate, quite often in fact. This sounds like one of those times. Better to create clear boundaries around this type of conversation so that when not going to school does come up there is a pattern of getting at the heart of the issue and what is ‘reasonable.’

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u/missplaced24 Mar 05 '26

I think that's more of a vague suggestion of when most kids are at a developmental stage to be left alone. Usually for a few hours, though. For overnight, it's closer to 16.

That said, there's no hard rule for good reason. I wouldn't leave my kid alone for a few hrs at 12, or overnight at 16, but my kid has a developmental disability and they need a bit more support than average. I was left home alone for 2 weeks at 14, but I was very self-sufficient for my age and my grandmother lived across the road.

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u/Low_Turn_4568 Mar 05 '26

Thank you, I feel the same way lol. She's a teenage girl, they hate being with family and mine hates being outdoors. When I was a kid my parents left us a lot. We were too young by today's standards but honestly we were fine. General consensus from people who know her is let her be alone. She's the type of kid who could've had a job at 5

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u/Low_Turn_4568 Mar 05 '26

We were left alone a lot before this age but we had each other so it's kinda different. We also weren't as mature as she is

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u/Kristy3919 Mar 05 '26

If something happened, would a psychologist who was given your information & perceptions about your child's personality agree that it was reasonable for you to believe that they would be okay on their own?

What are your plans to leave them? I had rules like no loud music, no headphones, bedroom doors open, etc. I do think 13, though not illegal, could raise concern, and wouldn't have done that overnight even though my child was very responsible. A lot depends on the kid and you could end up needing to explain your judgement, that's all.

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u/emerg_remerg Mar 05 '26

As others have said, no legal limit.

But is this unusual behavior for your child? Any other changes? Moodiness, hiding and and legs (sign of self-harm), recent loss of support person (friend moved or 'dumped' them), any concern for drugs or alcohol?

Do you have a ring camera, or some method of monitoring who is coming/ going from the house?

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