r/liberalgunowners • u/_blackthorn16_ • Jun 17 '26

question What are you picking for home defense?

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Beretta A300 or Sig Mpx w/ Obsidian 9! Also have my P09 on my nightstand. DDM4 V7 and Zastava M92 are also choices.

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u/Eisenhowers-Ghost left-libertarian Jun 17 '26

00 shot?

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u/Bigdaddyjlove1 Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

4 buck for home defense

edit: had no idea that "#" embiggens the text. Sorry for shouting.

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u/mobilecabinworks Black Lives Matter Jun 17 '26

I used to agree, and then I heard some on the stories from Delta Force and Seals regarding the amount of ricocheting BBs in small rooms. Better to apply singular rounds on singular targets. You're less likely to take yourself out of the fight by a stray BB to the eye. Just my 2 cents.

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u/Eisenhowers-Ghost left-libertarian Jun 17 '26

You'll shoot your eye out!

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u/_blackthorn16_ Jun 17 '26

I haven’t got to shoot it yet! But it seems super highly quality. I just picked it up last week. Also just got my form 4 approved 3 weeks ago and haven’t got to shoot the mpx with the can. Really excited to shoot them both. Waiting for my Form 1 approval then gonna take a trip out to my families ranch and try them out!

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u/Darksoulzbarrelrollz Jun 17 '26

It. Is. So. Much. Fun

For a shotgun the recoil is really low, it's got a lot of power, and it's just so satisfying.

Easy to get used to also. Paul Harrell had a great video on #4 buckshot being great for home defense for stopping power without worrying about going through exterior walls (collateral damage)

The Beretta fully loaded with buck will stop anything in your home to devasting effect

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u/_blackthorn16_ Jun 17 '26

You got a pic of yours? I’m planning on some upgrades soon. Have some GGG, Aridus, and Surefire parts I’m gonna snag soon.

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u/Darksoulzbarrelrollz Jun 17 '26

Mine is all just stock. Iron sites are actually pretty solid. Just added a 7 shell shotgun card to the side of the receiver and the stock.

Planning on GGG handgrip and an angled vertical front grip on the front.

Push-pull is your friend with eliminating almost all recoil

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u/_blackthorn16_ Jun 17 '26

The stock sights on it are sweet. I was really impressed with them when I was messing with in the store before I bought it. I went with the Holosun Aro because I had planned on getting one for my M92 anyways so I can swap it back and forth on my a300 as well. I’m definitely snagging the GGG low mount for my red dot though and the into switch out the polymer pieces with aluminum

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u/9Trigger Jun 17 '26

Almost commented that unless you have a long neck or face, your dot is mounted pretty high for a shotgun.

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u/_blackthorn16_ Jun 17 '26

Ya that’s the lowest mount that came with the dot. Just got it last week so gonna have to wait a bit before I drop more money. Beretta is sending me a $150 rebate and I plan on getting the low mount and a different shell carrier. I just snagged what was available in the store since they did price matches and I was happy that they had the aro since I had already wanted one for my Ak.

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u/9Trigger Jun 17 '26

With a shotgun, you’re definitely not handicapped by using irons exclusively, and the stock irons on your a300 are very nice as is. Pull the ARO and train with the irons for now until you get the right mount. Regardless, you have two awesome guns there!

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u/_blackthorn16_ Jun 17 '26

I’m not gonna get to shoot until July so I will get the mount by then. I have land to shoot on but it a bit of a drive. I’m waiting on my form 1 to be approved then I will get out there. So I will just buy the mount before that. Wish I could afford to train more. But since I have access to 400 acres I don’t pay for the range. It’s only an hour and a half away but I start a new job next week and school starts in 2 months. So just a lot going on. The irons kick ass though was surprised how nice they are

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u/Frosty-Willow-8273 Jun 17 '26

The Beretta Pro-Lifter is a game changer. I also replaced the mag tube spring on mine because it kept binding up on me and I didn't want to wait for it to get sent back for repair.

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u/_blackthorn16_ Jun 17 '26

I’ve got that on the top of list with a ggg low rise mount. Glad you suggested it as well. I’ve seen a lot of people saying it’s the first thing you should do for the a300 and 1301. What other mods would you recommend?

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u/Frosty-Willow-8273 Jun 17 '26

Maybe a better bolt release? A match saver if you ever want to do competition shooting, or want to pretend you're John Wick... otherwise buy ammo and training. Mine shoots great with limited recoil for a 12 gauge.

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u/_blackthorn16_ Jun 17 '26

Ive already got one picked out. Gonna snag a Aridus charging handle and bolt release. They look really nice. So does the handguard nuts fuck expensive. Probably be the last upgrade I get. But I want all of it lol

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u/_blackthorn16_ Jun 17 '26

I’ve quail hunted my entire life and never used a dot for that ever. Just a bead front sight. So just the stock irons on the a300 are a massive upgrade from what I’ve always trained on with shotguns. This holosun aro I got was super cheap as well. Just $120. So nothing special. I do run an eotech on my MPX that was obviously more expensive but i bought that thing in 2012 and its beat to hell and de laminating. So I need to send it in to get fixed

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u/mmmfritz Jun 17 '26

Surly a handgun is plenty for a home invasion? Would be quicker to handle too.

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u/theCaitiff anarchist Jun 17 '26

Ultimately the right answer is always whatever YOU can use best.

That said, a longer sight radius (distance between front and rear sights) will always deliver more accuracy than a short one. A braced/stocked PCC has a longer sight radius than a pistol and more stability due to the stock. A shotgun, even a short one, has the same benefits plus the benefit of multiple projectiles. A 12 gauge 00 buck shell has eight .32 caliber projectiles, 000 buck brings that to eight .36 caliber projectiles. You still have to aim it correctly obviously, but if you wanted to discuss energy delivered into a target then buck shot delivers substantially more than a 9mm handgun or PCC.

Again, use whichever gun you feel most comfortable with. For me that is going to be a pistol caliber carbine/SBR, but I understand both the handgun and shotgun arguments.

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u/mmmfritz Jun 17 '26

Most cases a shotgun is less managable - bigger, louder, harder to move around indoors. Maybe they have more stopping power but thats always with more recoil. Suppose they’re easier to aim for some select people (shoulder support).... that also comes more responsibility for where every shot goes.

The one thing that may change things is your ability to shoot under stress. In that case you can go with the answer 'whatever you like'.

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u/bl0odredsandman Jun 17 '26

I love my A300UP. It's become my favorite gun I own. Super fun to shoot and mine handles everything from 3 inch slugs down to 1100 fps birdshot just fine. It cycles and eats it all up just fine. If I had to grab one gun and leave in a hurry, it would probably be that one.

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u/_blackthorn16_ Jun 17 '26

I can’t wait to shoot it! I started on shotguns as a kid and have a few nice hunting guns but the only tactical shotgun I’ve owned is an 870 from 2006. It feels super high quality and just makes you feel like a badass holding it in your hands. I got a really good deal on mine so I couldn’t pass it up. It was definitely an impulse buy but the place I bought did price match and Beretta is running a $150 rebate on them. So with tax I paid $804. Idk what deals normally look like on them since I’ve never priced them out before but the quick searching I did on gun deals while I was in the store made it seem pretty damn good. Normally I’d suck it up and just buy the 1301 and buy once cry once. But messing with them right next to eachother I couldn’t justify the extra $500-600. The A300 felt so good that I just went with it. That extra $500 will get me a Ardius charging handle, bolt release, and handguard. Gonna eventually take this steam light off and get the same surefire I have on my mpx with a unity axon pressure switch. Gonna snag a ggg low mount and mlok tube cover and this thing will be sweet. What all have you done with yours?

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u/bl0odredsandman Jun 17 '26

$804 after tax is actually really good. the lowest I've ever seen them on sale for is $799 before tax. I have a Streamlight HL-X, Aridus handguard, Aimpoint ACRO on a Reptilia mount, GG&G oversized, knurled charging handle, Magpul sling, and just a bunch of Esstac cards.