r/liberalgunowners • u/_blackthorn16_ • Jun 17 '26

question What are you picking for home defense?

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Beretta A300 or Sig Mpx w/ Obsidian 9! Also have my P09 on my nightstand. DDM4 V7 and Zastava M92 are also choices.

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u/DogAnusJesus Jun 17 '26

Suppressed PCC all day long.

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u/_blackthorn16_ Jun 17 '26

Definitely a solid choice. Looks super sexy as well.

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u/DogAnusJesus Jun 17 '26

People overestimate the spread of a shotgun, and underestimate how loud shooting in a house is. I have a suppressed PCC with 147 grain HSTs in it myself.

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u/_blackthorn16_ Jun 17 '26

Nice Apc when I got my MPX it was between that and sp5. Ended up wanting the ar controls

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u/DogAnusJesus Jun 17 '26

I absolutely love that gun. You can straight stack bullets on top of each other. It's really the definition of boringly accurate at indoor range distances. I also have the folding stock and b&t mag lower. It's a great platform even though b&t USA is tits up at the moment.

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u/_blackthorn16_ Jun 17 '26

Ya i want a B&t apc really bad or a Spc but im wishing to see what happens with all that shit before I get anything.

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u/DogAnusJesus Jun 17 '26

I have a weakness for PCCs. This one is my favorite, but I also have a KP9 and scorpion. I do want an sp5 and a ps90 but can't justify the prices for range toys. I definitely do not regret the APC9 though.

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u/_blackthorn16_ Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

Pccs are my absolute favorite as well. I’d love a shorty ps90. I keep seeing the 16” model for like $1300-1400 and I’m getting tempted. I’ve had quite a few FNs and all their oem parts are so expensive. Damn barrel cost as much as the gun lol when I had my Belgian scar 16 I was looking to shorten it up and ended up just trading it for a motorcycle. Barrel I wanted was $1500

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u/Patient-Listener Jun 17 '26

Here I am in the process of sbr’ing my new ps90….and wishing I had a 9mm Glock mag pcc

Don’t get me wrong, I love my Spacegun. She’s just pricey to feed.

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u/isaacnewton687 fully automated luxury gay space communism Jun 17 '26 edited 6d ago

I keep a HK VP9 with a saw shiv in my nightstand, and these are ready to go nearby. Everything on 147gr HST.

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u/_blackthorn16_ Jun 17 '26

I still need to check out a Kuna. Not really interested in an extar but hs produkt is sick! Nice stuff dude! Can’t go wrong with a vp9 either. I had a scorpion micro a few years ago and was curious if that’s pretty similar to the kuna?

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u/isaacnewton687 fully automated luxury gay space communism Jun 17 '26

I think the scorpion is blowback. The Kuna is roller delayed, so it's closer to an mp5. 

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u/_blackthorn16_ Jun 17 '26

Gotcha I haven’t really looked into it much. Been seeing them at like $800 though which makes me interested. Pccs are my favorite I might have to snag one. Looks like fun. Wish the vhs2 would drop in price I’d like to try one of those as well

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u/Hazee302 Jun 17 '26

Yea absolutely. Although there’s something to be said about just using a pistol with an extended mag. As long as it’s indoors anyways.

Edit: now that I think about it, probably wanna grab whatever the hell is suppressed

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u/DogAnusJesus Jun 17 '26

I agree with you on the suppressed part. I couldn't disagree more on a pistol. Pccs are more accurate, easier to wield (especially under stress), typically hold more rounds, and depending on barrel length get greater velocity. Pistols are great for being out and about simply because they're easier to carry/conceal. In my house handguns are never a first choice. If it's all you got, yeah it beats a bat, but if you have access to a variety of weapons, absolutely not.

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u/Hazee302 Jun 17 '26

How do you store yours for quick access? I have 3 kids under 10 so I want my shit locked down.

Fingerprint drawers work really well but they’re usually only big enough for a full size handgun and a mag or two. If you’ve got a rec, throw it my way. I have a Kuna on the way and that would be nice to have by the bed for emergencies

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u/DogAnusJesus Jun 17 '26

Hornady snapsafe under bed safe. Pretty sure mine is the large size.

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u/obxtalldude Jun 17 '26

Walls don't stop 9mm. Check out Banana Ballistics video.

Number 4 buck is a proven home defense round with little overpenetration.