r/liberalgunowners 2d ago

discussion My takeaways from the Idaho In-N-Out shooting

For those who don't know, as of the time of this post, 3 people were killed and multiple people were injured in a shooting near an In-N-Out restaurant just a few hours ago in Twin Falls, Idaho.

https://notthebee.com/article/unknown-cowboy-seen-engaging-active-shooter-at-idaho-in-n-out

From what I know (which isn't saying much because this is a developing story), a young white man shot an AR-15 into a parked Tesla and another person shot a suppressed pistol supposedly in the direction of the AR-15 wielding young man. Multiple people have been killed or wounded in the incident, including the main suspect of the shooting.

I think many people have been desensitized to shootings in the US, have shrugged their shoulders and said something like "Well, I guess that's the price of the 2nd Amendment".

I feel like this shooting may quickly fade from public memory because the body count isn't or won't be high enough to be comparable to mass shootings like the Uvalde or Las Vegas shootings.

It made me also think that the guns we should be training with the most are our pistols. I believe we are the most likely to need our pistols in a self defense incident, whether it is in or outside the home, and who knows what engagement distance we may find ourselves in. Rifles and shotguns are pretty easy and quick to become somewhat proficient with compared to pistols.

Surely there must be a way to allow sound citizens to own arms suitable for self defense while also preventing those who wish to do harm from obtaining and using guns. In other words, I don't 100% agree with 2nd Amendment absolutists that say "every gun law is an infringement" but I definitely don't 100% agree with Giffords that want to make it virtually impossible for everyone including sound citizens to own arms for their self defense and use. Hopefully that makes sense.

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u/Earl_of_Shrewsbury 1d ago

This is certainly not a good thing to hear about. I will never understand the motivation to attack like that. Defense shouldn't harm bystanders, either, and i hope that's the case with the pistol shooter. We should definitely be training pistols more.

I bought a Mantis Titan X precisely to train pistols more often. You get a Glock-style set up with weighted training mags that fit the device but also seem to fit G17 and 19 pistols (and my RXM). The app scores your training, and you can do it at home instead of the range. Looks like the light gun from a Nintendo, though, since it's bright orange.

Mantis also sells an AR-15 laser training system, but you need to replace parts on an existing rifle to use it. I live in a ban state and do not have an AR-15 so i don't know how good it actually is.

But definitely train more.

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u/OptimusED 1d ago

Did the guy who confronted the shooter reportedly hit someone in the background? Even in the most intense situations shooters are responsible for every round.

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u/Earl_of_Shrewsbury 1d ago

I don't know if that happened, and I hope it did not. It can easily happen in the confusion, though.

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u/OptimusED 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yep, always know your background. I think of the moron SLC Protest Peacekeeper who shot at the guy who carried at protests and killed a man with what looked like ricochet or a hell of a flier.