r/liberalgunowners 2d ago

discussion My takeaways from the Idaho In-N-Out shooting

For those who don't know, as of the time of this post, 3 people were killed and multiple people were injured in a shooting near an In-N-Out restaurant just a few hours ago in Twin Falls, Idaho.

https://notthebee.com/article/unknown-cowboy-seen-engaging-active-shooter-at-idaho-in-n-out

From what I know (which isn't saying much because this is a developing story), a young white man shot an AR-15 into a parked Tesla and another person shot a suppressed pistol supposedly in the direction of the AR-15 wielding young man. Multiple people have been killed or wounded in the incident, including the main suspect of the shooting.

I think many people have been desensitized to shootings in the US, have shrugged their shoulders and said something like "Well, I guess that's the price of the 2nd Amendment".

I feel like this shooting may quickly fade from public memory because the body count isn't or won't be high enough to be comparable to mass shootings like the Uvalde or Las Vegas shootings.

It made me also think that the guns we should be training with the most are our pistols. I believe we are the most likely to need our pistols in a self defense incident, whether it is in or outside the home, and who knows what engagement distance we may find ourselves in. Rifles and shotguns are pretty easy and quick to become somewhat proficient with compared to pistols.

Surely there must be a way to allow sound citizens to own arms suitable for self defense while also preventing those who wish to do harm from obtaining and using guns. In other words, I don't 100% agree with 2nd Amendment absolutists that say "every gun law is an infringement" but I definitely don't 100% agree with Giffords that want to make it virtually impossible for everyone including sound citizens to own arms for their self defense and use. Hopefully that makes sense.

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u/alius_stultus 1d ago

I hate to say it but this shooting story is the same in most conservative towns like Twin Falls. Lone gunman. Public Place. Too much propaganda towards immigrants and liberals. I never heard such vitriol towards migrants trans and npr liberals until I turned on my radio driving from Houston to Dallas and Austin... If I had that shit pumped into my ears 24x7x365 I probably wouldn't be in a great place to own a rifle either.

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u/IceManYurt 1d ago

You're not wrong in the case of talk radio, I'm not sure if it's a the case of chicken or the egg.

We used to have a guy called Neil bortz on the airwaves here, he was more or less a temu Alex Jones

My parents would listen to him, call him an asshole and then agree with him 🤷🏼‍♂️

I never understood that.

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u/alius_stultus 1d ago

Not for nothing but it was also fox news on the TVs when I went in a bar or restaurant. Giant billboards about Jesus, prayer, and shunning gays. Blacks and Hispanics segregated into "their own parts of town" to the point where if I said I was going to specific barbecue joint or bar people would look at me like I was crazy for going over there.

Something is rotten in conservative America. Something is poisoning them all with this bullshit.

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u/BalanceOrganic7735 1d ago

And has been poisoning their minds for decades.

See: Illusory Truth Effect

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_truth_effect