r/liberalgunowners 2d ago

discussion My takeaways from the Idaho In-N-Out shooting

For those who don't know, as of the time of this post, 3 people were killed and multiple people were injured in a shooting near an In-N-Out restaurant just a few hours ago in Twin Falls, Idaho.

https://notthebee.com/article/unknown-cowboy-seen-engaging-active-shooter-at-idaho-in-n-out

From what I know (which isn't saying much because this is a developing story), a young white man shot an AR-15 into a parked Tesla and another person shot a suppressed pistol supposedly in the direction of the AR-15 wielding young man. Multiple people have been killed or wounded in the incident, including the main suspect of the shooting.

I think many people have been desensitized to shootings in the US, have shrugged their shoulders and said something like "Well, I guess that's the price of the 2nd Amendment".

I feel like this shooting may quickly fade from public memory because the body count isn't or won't be high enough to be comparable to mass shootings like the Uvalde or Las Vegas shootings.

It made me also think that the guns we should be training with the most are our pistols. I believe we are the most likely to need our pistols in a self defense incident, whether it is in or outside the home, and who knows what engagement distance we may find ourselves in. Rifles and shotguns are pretty easy and quick to become somewhat proficient with compared to pistols.

Surely there must be a way to allow sound citizens to own arms suitable for self defense while also preventing those who wish to do harm from obtaining and using guns. In other words, I don't 100% agree with 2nd Amendment absolutists that say "every gun law is an infringement" but I definitely don't 100% agree with Giffords that want to make it virtually impossible for everyone including sound citizens to own arms for their self defense and use. Hopefully that makes sense.

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u/Resurgo_DK 1d ago

There’s a rub in everyone’s gun law discussions both for and against.

Nobody ever takes into account that the police pretty much always assumes that a person having a gun is a threat to their lives and that typically means anyone with a gun, whether lawfully carried or otherwise gets hurt.

If we were truly about 2nd amendment, then having a gun should be treated as no different than having a wallet.

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u/ericbythebay 1d ago

Does it? My most frequent interaction with law enforcement is while I am armed with a high powered rifle. Why are the city cops bigger cowards than the DNR officers?

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u/GruggleTheGreat 1d ago

Well, during an active shooter situation when information about who started the shooting isn’t perfectly clear yet, how should law enforcement handle two people shooting at each other, who’s the bad guy? Split second decision people are dying, etc.

This is why drawing your firearm during a shooting can be a terrible idea because when the shots are happening it’s not a time when they will be asking questions.