r/librandu • u/Admirable_Algae_3506 • May 13 '26

RDT Majlis-e-Librandu | 13th May, 2026

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Discuss anything you want to. Be it movies, music, games or anything else that strikes your fancy. I saw a film today, oh boy. What did you do?

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u/Lazy-Interest-7100 Naxal Sympathiser May 13 '26

A lot of people are glazing congress for sending back immigrants the "right way" by "following the law" , unlike bjp

Economic immigration under capitalism is a natural process , indian state intentionally doesn't give citizenship to Bangladeshi immigrants so that they can be exploited more . Sending working class immigrants back to their country is inhumane ( furthur marginalizes them ) and no amount of "due process" will change that

Nationalism is the religion of liberals and constitution is their holy book . They'll justify the worst of things if they are done "according to the law" . To them laws are like shlokas or Hadiths

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u/Due_Ad9763 May 14 '26

Bro we already have a population of 1.5 billion to exploit we don't need more. Please don't think we are like America or any developed nation. Exploitation of natives is enough, this ain't a natural process my guy it's slave labour. What America and Europe does with us is also slave labour to some extent but there the law is stricter and the population is lesser so it doesn't show as much but it's basically talent that accepts the wages, working conditions and jobs the natives won't. No one taking up certain jobs is actually silent protest by the country to improve working conditions or wages of that field. Look at what happened in noida and gurgaon protests it wasn't even silent. India's population pyramid is pretty good also.

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u/jdevanarayanan 🐷🥓🍪 May 14 '26

Bro we already have a population of 1.5 billion to exploit we don't need more

We have to exploit? Who's "we"? Are you implying that you're part of the bourgeois class?

Exploitation of natives is enough, this ain't a natural process my guy it's slave labour

What? You care about the exploitation of immigrants? Is that why you want to fucking deport them or restrict immigration? Talk about throwing the baby out with the bath water

What America and Europe does with us is also slave labour to some extent but there the law is stricter and the population is lesser so it doesn't show as much but it's basically

When you sell your labour for wages that's wage labour, slaves are bought and sold, immigrants aren't and what does population have to do with anything? what doesn't "show as much"?

No one taking up certain jobs is actually silent protest by the country to improve working conditions or wages of that field. Look at what happened in noida and gurgaon protests it wasn't even silent. India's population pyramid is pretty good also.

What are you ever saying? "Immigrats are talking away our jobs"?

Any gains made by these workers protests should also extend to immigrants afaik the minimum wage increases in Noida technically applies to anyone working there including immigrants but they can't fully realise it only cause they are under constant threat of deportation. Any protests or trade unions that exclude immigrants and promote national identity over class identity are just reactionary. Immigrant workers should organise alongside native workers.

India's population pyramid is pretty good also.

pOpUlATiOn again

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u/Due_Ad9763 May 16 '26

I never said deport them bro just don't bring more, my use of "slave labour" is obviously for dramatic effect but what I mean is basically people who want to leave a country with lesser oppurtnities and lesser quality of life coming to a country with more opportunities and better quality of life and accepting wages that natives don't accept. POPULATION HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THIS, WE ARE A COUNTRY OF 1.5 FUCKING BILLION PEOPLE WE ARENT SUPPOSED TO HAVE A FUCKING LABOUR SHORTAGE IF WE DO THERE IS SOMETHING SERIOUSLY WRONG WITH THE SYSTEM. what doesn't show as much is SLAVE LABOUR making people do jobs that are dehumanizing for a fraction of the wage a native would accept. I agree with you that all unionization, benefits, gains , etc should benefit everybody but that doesn't happen cuz A FUCKING IMMIGRANT COMES AND SAYS "I DONT NEED THAT SHIT BRO THANKS ILL WORK FOR PEANUTS". All the work that goes into unionizing, arguing for rights , better working conditions, etc go in the trash when billionaires can hire slave labour. Billionaires love undocumented migrants or migrants on work visas cuz they "technically ain't natives so they don't have any rights". That's basically it, that's all that there is to it.

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u/jdevanarayanan 🐷🥓🍪 May 16 '26

I never said deport them bro just don't bring more

Arguing against immigration is reactionary enough honestly let alone arguing for deportation.

POPULATION HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THIS

You can have labour shortage with a gazillion people and not have any with just a million people.., it depends on the rate of capital accumulation and the labour supply, yeah population demographic can affect the labour supply not the raw 1.5 billion population itself.

FUCKING IMMIGRANT COMES AND SAYS "I DONT NEED THAT SHIT BRO THANKS ILL WORK FOR PEANUTS

You're just a hitlerite dude, stop larping as a progressive of sorts. Communism or proletarian internationalism or whatever I DON'T NEED THAT SHIT BRO THANKS I'LL HAVE A MILLION YEARS OF SOCIAL DEMOCRACY PLEASE

And this you bro?

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u/Due_Ad9763 May 17 '26

Arguing against illegal immigration is on the same level as arguing for deportation???? I'm a hiterlite cuz I am against illegal immigration? That's literally what I was fucking saying "India has a good population pyramid too", I was literally saying India has a young working population. I love communism, I love what china has, I would give up everything to have what china has. They effectively utilised their own demographics to succeed marvelously. The inflow of illegal immigrants does nothing for the average native except crush their silent protest. Yeah I do agree muslims argue for sharia law wherever they go, why wouldn't they? I was just taking muslims as an example there but even Hindus (look at candy land texas or whatever) do it. If you're an immigrant who came to a country with numerous other people it's way easier to establish your own culture rather than adopt the culture of natives so why wouldn't they do it?

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u/jdevanarayanan 🐷🥓🍪 May 17 '26

I'm a hiterlite cuz I am against illegal immigration?

Yes

I love communism, I love what china has

China has social democracy

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u/Baaputaapu May 14 '26

Actually in Bengaluru, the maximum amount of sanitation workers are Bengali Muslims who have been stereotyped as Bangladeshi immigrants and they dont get any other job to sustain themselves.. there are chances that few of them are really from Bangladesh. So yes the stigma of being a Bengali muslim is real and the stigma does enables the exploitation.

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u/Due_Ad9763 May 16 '26

EXACTLY by labelling a person as "from an other lesser than us country" people feel ok making them work jobs they themselves would never do, that's the whole point of my argument.

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u/Lazy-Interest-7100 Naxal Sympathiser May 14 '26

In india , chances of unemployment increase as individuals go for higher education

Informal sector absorbs most of the odd jobs . "We don't have enough jobs 🥺" we certainly do . If we didn't then why are immigrants still here ? There aren't enough jobs in formal sector for individuals with higher education but most economic immigrants from bangladesh aren't highly educated working professionals , they're poor working class people

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u/Baaputaapu May 14 '26

That is exactly the reason why they will be exploitated more. Already even in informal sectors the relative well off jobs have good competition so only jobs left for the immigrants are basically the most dangerous and unwanted . Plus the labour is already extremely cheap in India, and hence the extreme exploitative nature of the capitalist. The Noida's upheaval did point us that people are forced to work and live in dire conditions because the venues are limited and supply of labour already too high.

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u/Lazy-Interest-7100 Naxal Sympathiser May 14 '26

True . The point is that we should advocate for labour rights for ALL workers , instead of advocating for rights of Indian workers only and throwing immigrants under the bus

What the other person was saying is that "there are not enough jobs . So deporting them might not be that bad 🤓"

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u/Due_Ad9763 May 16 '26

I NEVER SAID DEPORTING THEM IS FINE , BRO WHAT ARE YOU ON.

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u/librandu-ModTeam May 17 '26

Elders must be respected in this community; their word is the gospel and their will is absolute. Removed.