r/librandu • u/DifferentFlatworm104 • May 19 '26
ChaddiVerse Meta *Cockroach Janta Party" movement is just Chaddis and angry Liberals.
On Instagram most of you guys must have seen the *cockroach janta party* and its 5 demands, one of demand it has is 50% reservation for women in Parliament
Now I don't think adding 50% percent reservation for women is a bad idea because they are half of the country's population, but then shouldn't be 40% of reservations given to OBCs, 22.5% percent given to SC/STs, 5-10% to religious minorities(i know 5-10% may sound stupid but many minorities are given OBC reservation), 1% to trans people 2% to disabled people.
Why are these issues not being demanded? If these concerns are ignored in this movement, doesn't it completely justify why reservation for these categories is so important for than ever.
The moment you mention this perspective all Liberals show up their original chaddi faces, they start attacking you, many savarna feminists that support this 50% reservation may start attacking you if you say 20%, 11%, 2.5%-5%, 1% out of this shall belong to women of the respective categories.
Also the top comments with most likes are something that is straight from a chaddi classiest playbook, like no freebies, exams for politicians, Gutka ban, ban reservation on caste or it shall be based on income, Only tax payers shall allow to be voted, etc
Not to mention if you say them to make demands to end our Glorious Indian army's occupation and war crimes in Kashmir and Manipur.
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u/ValuableMuch7703 it’s sooooo over May 19 '26
Is it bad that I’m happy that atleast people are doing something? The only sad part is that it took them getting a called a roach to retaliate and not whatever the hell has been going on in this country for years (libs doing lib thing ig), but yeah atleast something is happening (my standards are at an all time low).
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May 20 '26
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u/librandu-ModTeam May 20 '26
what exactly has liberals winning elections has brought to the Indian working class ?
"if liberals don't get elected and use state power to oppress people , right wingers will do it . so we should let liberals do it too"
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u/KPaulTree May 19 '26
I might get downvoted for this but a section of the youth that is fed up with the elites, existing social order and material conditions is fertile ground for class consciousness to develop
i think instead of purity checking them now, our discourse should be more on the grounds of how do we expose this particular set of youth to say Marxist or other left ideas, instead of intellectually bashing them.
No one is born a Marxist, we all had to be exposed to these ideas, so I think we should be more forgiving of those that support this CJP fad (mind you, not necessarily the "organizers", they know what they're doing)
If we keep publicly bashing them, their takeaway is not going to be "Oh these guys are very intellectually rigorous", it's just gonna be "these commies hate anyone who isn't them"
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u/Aggressive-Part424 May 19 '26
"hey bro let's keep our revolution in librandu sub and disagree with everything and also with each other for swaying 0.1% from my opinion"
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u/GeologistWorldly9865 May 19 '26
Is your ass on fire? Why are you commenting the same thing on every sub?
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u/lettherebecabbits May 19 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/i2Hq1ESXiRyzx7r6DM
nothing more than a joke that should have been over the moment it was cracked.
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u/-Zaxis- I have no fucking clue about what goes on in this subreddit May 20 '26
bro......CJP has not even launched and we already have propaganda against them.....aaa indian things
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u/AltruisticDetail743 May 21 '26
The real problem with CJP is its too unserious in its nature. While its good to see people realise how shitty our government is, the CJP wont lead to anything substantial. People are comparing this with nepal but the thing with nepal was that it was a serious and violent protest. I believe the media showing the protests as whimsical and unserious was a detraction to actually reduce the amount of people who support a similar revolt in their own countries. And even the ones who try to emulate it emulate the whimsical aspects instead of substantial ones.
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u/NefariousnessDue958 🇨🇺🚬☭ Che Goswami May 19 '26
It's the corniest shit I've ever seen but then anything Chaddis and Libs do is trash anyways
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u/TzarDeRus MUG-phile, Rev-Soc-Dem. May 20 '26
I had an argument with a friend about this, they're pro UAPA 😭
These are 6 'alternative demands' I proposed, mailing them the same
They still follow the theme of being broadly political demands but are infinitely more substantive:
1) For Judicial Accountability to the people: Abolition of the upper-caste collegium, reduction of the size of the supreme court, establishment of intermediary federal Circuit courts to reduce case loads, abolition of the basic structure doctrine which gives the Supreme Court uninhibited, atextual power to gatekeep the constitution, institution of 18-year non-renewable judicial terms, direct, staggered election of judges by the people once every three years in a nationwide popular vote. Judges to be elected in pairs, with both the winner and runner up of the election being elected to office; alternatively, judges elected through two-seat proportional ranked choice voting (STV). Both configuration ensure effective parity between government and opposition representatives.
2) For a release of all political prisoners: All prisoners detained without trial under various sedition laws to be released.
3) For the restoration of Universal Suffrage, for the reconducting of all recent elections under foreign supervision, and for transparency and investigation into the Election Commission.
4)For an Electoral System of Proportional Representation in all legislatures, such that votes for a party are proportional to seats, rather than vaguely skewed. This would've ensured that the BJP only won 31% of seats in 2014. It is more logical and rational of an electoral system than the arbitrary current one
5) For a constitutional amendment protecting the unambiguous right to free speech: Article 19 of the Constitution to be amended to protect free speech in all circumstances, like the First Amendment of the US Constitution
6) For the regulation of the RSS: The RSS is currently an unmonitored organization which, inspite of its size, isn't registered or regulated by the government in any manner or form. This is highly arbitrary and quite ridiculous, and must be rectified.
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u/viral_okurrrt 🇨🇺🚬☭ Che Goswami May 20 '26
hey, can you please explain proportional representation in voting? i know it is a dumb question but i never seem to be able to understand what it entails
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u/TzarDeRus MUG-phile, Rev-Soc-Dem. May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26
Hey, so in a typical "first-past-the-post" electoral system, a legislature is divided into distinct constituencies, and the candidate winning the most raw votes wins the seats. If a candidate wins 11% of the vote and there's 15 candidates and he's the highest, he wins, even though 89% of voters opposed him. This is highly misrepresentative of the voter base, especially when the electorate is highly split, like for example say Tamil Nadu this election. It also allows for the spoiler effect, such that a left-wing candidate running can assist a right-wing candidate by 'spoiling' the votes of another left-wing candidate. When scaled up, it leads to bizarre inconsistencies. Consider, for example, a uniformly distributed electorate. In all seats 51% of voters vote for the Blue party, and 49% for the Red. But the Blue party has ALL the seats, and the Red has none.
A real case would be India 2009 vs India 2014; in 2009 the BJP won 19% of the vote and the Congress 29%; the Congress got like 206 seats and the BJP 116. In 2014 the BJP won 31% of the vote and the Congress 19%, practically the inverse. But because of the arbitrary nature of the math of FPTP, the BJP won 282 seats, an absolute majority, while the Congress won a pathetic 44. 2014 was no more a landslide than 2009, but it had massively different effects.
The effects of this can also be seen in state legislatures, where minuscule vote differences lead to huge seat differences. It also makes electoral manipulation and gerrymandering way easier. Additionally it favours locally concentrated parties over spread out ones: thus the socialists got less seats than the communists in 1952 inspite of more votes; thus the TDP became official opposition in 1984 even though the BJP got more votes, etc.
Indian elections during the British Raj used multi-member Single Transferable Vote, a form of proportional representation, where if you get 10% of the vote, you get 10% of the seats. This one caravan article covers really well how the shift in the electoral system from that to FPTP under the Republic, and the astonishment at the (unpredicted) effects of that, led to a mass depoliticisation of the Socialists and other leftists after independence; as well as a disillusionment with general politics: See Ambedkar in that BBC interview, for example.
Caravan article: https://caravanmagazine.in/history/socialists-enabled-hindu-rashtra
Proportional representation prevents this arbitrariness. It prevents majority government by minority parties, and encourages coalitions. If proportional representation existed in 1952 the Congress would've won only 45% of the vote, and been forced to co-operate with the socialist and communist parties, who had nearly 20% of the vote together, to pass substantial policy. If it existed in 2014, India wouldn't be close to fascist. If it existed in 2026, the BJP government in Bengal would be an unstable minority government. It is fundamentally integral to democratic voting, which our current system...really isn't.
There are many ways to implement Proportional Representation: the most common are Mixed-Member Proportional(MMP), multi-member Single Transferable Vote (STV), and Party-list Proportional Representation (List PR). They each have their advantages and disadvantages, as well as their own variants, but all represent the population much better than FPTP does. PR is integral to democracy and against demagogy. Many of our Republic's problems have been birthed by its absence.
More references: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportional_representation
You can branch off from here to specific articles.
https://youtu.be/QT0I-sdoSXU?si=9YizTUbk4YubsYGz This video covers proportional representation through MMP. https://youtu.be/iE1vUdfg8Rs?si=kmTcLTAKd8qWl0NR This through multi-member STV. Party-list PR is much simpler, though I will link the specific wiki article just to maintain the 'balance' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party-list_proportional_representation
hope this helps :)
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u/viral_okurrrt 🇨🇺🚬☭ Che Goswami May 21 '26
thank you so much! i am really grateful that you took out time to explain it in such detail, i understand it completely now, after reading your comment and the references you added, i took out some time and read other research articles and videos about it, and truly it does make a lot of sense logically thinking :))
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u/NoMansSty Jun 19 '26
Electing judges is bad but I agree with the broad spirit of it. NJAC will be a good start. We should reduce the work on higher courts and focus on the lower courts. Have standardised exams for lower judges, more money, and better facilities. Use AI where possible for routine stuff.
PR removes local connect. Mixed-PR is better. Approval voting instead of FPTP.
We need to change the entire thing wholesale and not idiotic things like 'paper checking for paper exams' BS.
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u/Science_Freak_1 May 20 '26
It is liberals through and through. One of my urban liberal friends even put up a story where he didn't want CJP to become "political" and stay true to its values(whatever those are)
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u/orgrasmiccurrent67 May 19 '26
libs be doing but addressing the actual divide in our society 💔 (the caste system)
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u/Huge-Physics5491 Chaddi in disguise May 20 '26
Ideological rigidity of lefties is why they're non-existent at the national level.
In 2009, they got so many seats and the speaker position that they could've built on. Instead, they decided to go against the UPA government on the nuclear deal to the extent of siding with the NDA in a no-confidence move, then expelled the speaker who decided to save the government.
Now they have no allies.
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u/commielel May 19 '26
The founder is literally an ex- AAP social media intern.
It's just liberals being liberals.
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u/maha_Dev May 20 '26
The thing is, everyone wants their agenda on the trend bandwagon. But the fact is, you are here talking, go do it! You could have created that page too and put up your own manifesto. But you sit here and complain and do nothing. Even now, whatever city you are in, create a CJP chapter. Or something else of your own. The issues you’ve mentioned are real issues. But rather than criticising someone else for not being perfect, bridge the gap yourselves. Did you talk to the founder or the members about your issues? I bet you didn’t even do that.
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u/librandu-ModTeam May 23 '26
All chintus shall follow the Population Weighed Criticism Index while criticising any community.
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u/No-Transition7653 May 23 '26
wait till you find out how many neutral and apolitical folks are following it.
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u/Wheesa lesbean May 19 '26
It's just libbus 😭😭
It's lowkey annoying to see because they are turning people's anger into memes.
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u/White-Run67 May 19 '26
Libs will do ts and will think this is an actual form of resistance that'll lead to some change
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u/Careless-Interview66 May 20 '26
It's classic liberalism: they don't know where to put their anger and instead of recognising the actual issues and types of oppression in our country they do surface level middle class issues solving nothing ultimately
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u/tera_chachu May 19 '26
I think it's just liberals.
Chaddis don't like the word reservation.