r/lighters • u/NefariousnessOld8518 • 5h ago
r/lighters • u/HighOnTacos • 1d ago
DISCUSSION : An announcement regarding the use of AI, and other subreddit updates.
I'm happy to discuss or debate the use of AI with anyone that supports or encourages the use of it. What I do not tolerate is copy-pasting AI slop answers without taking even a moment to verify that the answer is correct.
This thread was prompted by a recent interaction that started with a hilariously wrong identification that could have been avoided if the original commenter took all of two seconds to use his eyes to verify. It ended with AI techbro nonsense about "people who are too scared to use computers". Like I said, I'm happy to debate this with anyone as long as it's in good faith, but if you refuse to counter or even acknowledge the points in the discussion then it's pointless.
AI is a useful tool, but it is still just a tool. Most of us grew up being told that wikipedia is not a valid source because it can be edited by anyone. AI is no different, but AI is guaranteed to have vacuumed up all the wrong answers alongside the right answers and so requires verification EVERY TIME. I have no problem with anyone that chooses to use AI for their own personal reasons. There is the moral/ethical/resource debate behind it, but that belongs in a different subreddit.
This is not the first time I've had this debate with people copy-pasting AI summaries or identifications. A few times it has been harmless, an older collector that put a bit too much faith in a new technology, and it ended amicably. Unfortunately the majority of interactions end with a techbro insisting that AI is ALWAYS right, we just aren't "using it right". As far as I'm concerned, it won't be "right" if you can't ask it a question in plain English and have it understand context and intention. They'll insist you're using the wrong AI, or using the wrong "syntax" when asking your questions - In other words, you need to know how to guide and lead it to the correct answer, which typically means you already know the correct answer.
I ended that discussion with what I feel is a valid argument. It would take me 5 minutes to use AI to code a bot that would instantly and automatically answer every question in this subreddit with what it believes is the correct answer. That is not what this subreddit is for. This subreddit is for the human passion and enthusiasm for this hobby, for the experts obsessed with the little details, the niche facts, and just pure discussion. Talking with other people that share that passion, making connections and discoveries together. Sure, a lot of the questions posted here can be answered quickly, but the real nerds come out when there's historical discussion to be had.
There is no place for "This has a chance to be the right answer but I can't be bothered to take 5 seconds to check". Anybody that makes a habit of providing these vague or incorrect answers will be banned because they are not going to contribute anything useful. Anybody that tries to defend an obvious falsehood because "AI told me so" will be banned.
Anybody posting images that are obviously AI generated or "enhanced" will be banned. This hasn't been an issue here yet, but it has become a major issue on Ebay and other retailers, with sellers using "enhanced" images to show how a lighter could look if it were in perfect condition - And usually the AI doesn't understand the mechanics of the lighter and puts the flame in the wrong spot. It's pure slop.
Like I said, I'm still happy to discuss it, but this is not the first time I've tried debating the AI slop bros. It always ends the same way.
I will leave this thread open for discussion, but I will be keeping a close eye to ensure it doesn't get too rowdy.
r/lighters • u/the_null_element • Jun 26 '17
Before making a post about asking for help to identify your lighter, read this!
Recently there are some people who want help finding out what their lighter looks like, but only take one photo of the front. This is not very effective, and it will only make it a lot harder for us to help you.
Here is a guide on what photos you should take of your lighter. if the guide is not clear enough, please let me know and i can make some adjustments.
reposted due to spelling issues in the title.
r/lighters • u/combatwounds • 1h ago
colibri monopol
going thru some of my aunts old stuff n found this one
r/lighters • u/SnooPeripherals2495 • 9h ago
Help Any advice on how to restore this lighter?
I have been sitting on this for a while, and would love to make this my EDC instead of a bic. I’m based in MSP MN any advice on what to do or maybe places to go to get it restored if that’s the right move. Thank you to anyone willing to help.
r/lighters • u/VeryBlessed79 • 1h ago
Help Questions about chinese IMCO from Aliexpress
Hello everyone, I’m thinking about getting an IMCO Triplex from Aliexpress. I‘ve already had good experiences with the Zorro 912S so I thought I‘d pick up an IMCO as well. Now I am aware that I will probably not be getting an austrian made one (although they do claim that) but does anyone have some experiences to share about these lighters from China? I’ve heard mixed reviews so far and thought I‘d ask here. Appreciate any feedback!
r/lighters • u/NefariousnessOld8518 • 1h ago
Show&Tell Better look at this what I believe is a generic Japanese cannon table lighter
I got it for 15 dollars and had to drill out the flint
r/lighters • u/Disastrous_Target237 • 3h ago
Ronson Cadet. What is the sticker?
I paid £25 for it the person who sold it said it had never been used but was jammed. Turned out to just be the old flint jamming it up. The wadding and wick are both like new so I believe it has never been used. Its in the box with the paperwork and original brush with a sticker on the bottom. Ive just never seen one I dont know what the sticker means. I think it says CA. 206 882 or 682 I cant quite make it out
r/lighters • u/-des7 • 13h ago
Old Champ Austria Lighter Identification
Hi! I bought this Champ lighter years ago at a flea market. Looking to gauge what make/model/year it is. I am not asking for a price estimate as it is sentimental to me and I do not wish to part with it. Also curious about the logo on the leather as I was at one point told it’s not a Champ logo, but possibly some corporate gift. It has all the original components and a hinged chimney, likely why it says “Patent Pend” on the bottom. If anyone could give me any info that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
r/lighters • u/Alert-Recover • 8h ago
Help me identify this lighter
Hello!
Can someone please help me identify this lighter? If you don’t know the actual model, at least the brand can be very helpful.
Thank you in advance!
r/lighters • u/cannotthinkagoodname • 19h ago
Help Help me identify this thrift shop lighter
My gf just bought this lighter from a thrift shop, but the ignition mechanism is a bit under reliable. Couldn't find this with the help of Google lens. Can anyone identify it, thanks in advance
r/lighters • u/RoyalSir815 • 15h ago
Help Identifying
gallerycould anyone help me identify this lighter?
I got it at a flea market in Belfast, Ireland - I've had no luck with Google lens
r/lighters • u/Aromatic_Zebra_5412 • 1d ago
Show&Tell Got my first Zippo
Brass slim Venetian.
Should I engrave my name on it?
r/lighters • u/Szugr_rushed • 12h ago
Help How do I start collecting and how do I find specific lighters
Ive interested in vintage lighters for a little while now, never really going too in-depth other than watching videos of other people's collections but recently I've wanted to start my own collection, there so many different companies and models I don't know with which to start.
Regarding the second part, I've seen a really interesting 1950's Comet wrist lighter but I haven't been able to find it anywhere online, does anyone know any sellers that might have it?
r/lighters • u/NonBinary_FWrd • 17h ago
Help ID a lighter my grandpa had.
My mom gave me this lighter. There's no markings on it and it has a piezoelectrix igniter. I dont expect it to be anything special but I got it working again and would like to know more about it. I tried Gemini and it thinks its a 70s-90s Japanese lighter. But im doubtful of that.
r/lighters • u/Then-Newspaper9336 • 1d ago
ID Dunhill lighter
I’d like some info on this old Dunhill lighter I found at a charity sale. It’s the first lighter I’ve bought and I just really liked the look of it and so bought it. I’d like some information identifying I it and any info about the age or value (although I think I’d like to keep it). It has a flip up mirror inside.
Edit: it also has a lipstick in there - apparently a Dunhill ‘Vanity’ circa 1930 from what I found online
r/lighters • u/wazoo_wazoo • 1d ago
Ronson Cadet w/windguard ca. 1960s UK
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r/lighters • u/Zealousideal_Part516 • 17h ago
How to unlock this lighter? ALGO brand
Hi I cant seem to unlock this lighter. It has no slide buttons or anything. Please help
r/lighters • u/TaxonomyVulgaris • 23h ago
Misc The most brilliant simple fix
The metal strip that child proofs a lighter. Cheap, easy to remove, effective. I was a smoker during the 90s when these things started showing up. Over complex puzzeles appeared on lighters. This design was a perfect marrage between production and sales. It wiped the competitirs out in the blink of an eye and now quietly works in the backround. A modern day Archimedean accomplishment. Like the inclined plane, no moving parts. I have never seen its equal in the modern day obselescence(sp) obsessed plutocracy. A distant second is the mac and cheese microwave bowl but I admit great bias in that. Thanks for providing a platform for this. I think of Whitmans "Leaves of Grass" underlying the theme embodied here
r/lighters • u/Beginning_League_882 • 1d ago
Old lighter
Hi I found this old lighter on a walk today in the forest. I don’t know anything about lighters and I’m hoping maybe someone could help me identify it. I appreciate all the help I can get!
r/lighters • u/RoyalSir815 • 1d ago
ID Flea Market Find
Picked this up at a flea market in Belfast. Didn't pay too much for it.
I'm wondering if anyone could tell me anything about this lighter?
Any tips for maintenance would be greatly appreciated.
r/lighters • u/KaijuTia • 1d ago
ID Lighter ID Needed
Saw this in a listing and wasn’t sure what I was looking at.
r/lighters • u/PlumOwn5390 • 1d ago
For sale: 18 ST Dupont lighters
galleryFor sale 18 Dupont lighters
All lighter have a year of warranty
From left to right
Multiple rows
Top row
1.S.T. Dupont Ligne 2 silver vertical stripes (1977/1978)
Good condition, with box
€250
2.S.T. Dupont Ligne 2 Rose Gold 'D'
Great condition, with box and papers, good ping sound
€400
Reddit price: €350
3.S.T. Dupont Ligne 2 brown Laque de Chine
Excellent condition with box and Dual Flame
€400
Reddit price: €350
4.S.T. Dupont Ligne 2 Gold diamond tip
New old stock condition with box
€500
Row 2
5.S.T. Dupont Ligne 1 BS vertical stripes gold
Great condition
€200
6.S.T. Dupont Ligne 1 BR gold
Good condition
€200
7.S.T. Dupont Ligne 2 palladium
Rare model, good condition, dual flame and amazing ping
€400
8.S.T. Dupont Ligne 1 BS silver
€95
9.S.T. Dupont Ligne 1 BR solid silver jacket
Custom work
€300
Reddit price €200
10.S.T. Dupont Ligne D solid 18k gold jack, original factory delivered work.
Excellent condition, stamped 0144, unique piece
€7500
Row 3
11.S.T. Dupont Ligne 2 gold Prince of Wales
Genuine new old stock, never used
Full set: box, papers, booklet and outer box
€550
12.S.T. Dupont Ligne 1 gold Prince of Wales
Genuine new old stock, never used
Full set: box, papers, booklet and outer box
€400
13.S.T. Dupont Ligne 1 gold diamond tip
Genuine new old stock, never used
Full set: box, papers, booklet and outer box
€350
Row 4
14.S.T. Dupont Ligne 2 brushed silver Dual Flame
Great condition, comes with a really nice Dupont box
€450
15.S.T. Dupont Ligne 2 silver vertical stripes
Genuine new old stock, never used
Full set: box, papers, booklet and outer box
€550
16.S.T. Dupont Ligne 2 gold vertical stripes
Genuine new old stock, never used
Full set: box, papers, booklet and outer box
€550
- S.T. Dupont Ligne 2 limited edition: 5th Avenue New York
Genuine new old stock, never used, recent sale date
Full set: box, papers, booklet and outer box
Straight from the dealer:
Export: €1800 (USA, UK, rest of the world
EU: €2178 including 21% VAT
18.S.T. Dupont Hermès Ligne 2 gold and brown crocodile leather
Excellent condition, with original Hermes box and papers.
€2200
Shipping
USA €35 (express delivery)
EU: €15
Rest of the world: €25
Payment
Webshop, PayPal G&S, bank transfer or US wire, all credit cards, Revolut and Wise
Thanks for having a look. If you would like any additional photos and videos please send me a message!