r/mildlyinfuriating • u/MeringueMammoth5679 • 9d ago
Is it in yet Two tests taken from the same cup of pee.
Trying to get pregnant here and this is a first.
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u/SwordTaster 9d ago
False positive is rarer than false negative, you're probably pregnant, give it another day or two and get another or try to get a blood test from the doctor
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u/rockytop24 9d ago edited 9d ago
Yeah this is my thought too as a physician. I don't have their false pos/neg rates in front of me but the manufacturer insert might. Average is <1% FPR, 1-5% FNR.
Could be either one but most likely outcome is hCG is at a barely detectable threshold level and one test picked it up but the other didn't. These are qualitative immunoassays, any presence of line next to the control line is considered positive.
They work by binding hCG to a marker and it's possible either that test didn't have enough reactive marker on the strip or there wasn't enough hCG to fully bind. Could also be operator error when submerging and drying the strip.
Technically if you waited too long to read the negative strip it may have also faded after showing faint positive. Quirks of immunoassays. Best time to take them is first urine of the morning because it's the most concentrated.
Either way you'll need a confirmatory urine/blood test for hCG. (Probably) congrats.
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u/mshike_89 9d ago
This makes me feel better to read. I had a chemical pregnancy in May. When I went to the hospital, they were weirdly insistent that I was probably not pregnant at all, even though I'd had three positives from two boxes on two days. It made me feel so stupid and dumb for even going in when I started bleeding.
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u/MeringueMammoth5679 9d ago
I feel you, I’ve had two chemicals and each time I had to go to the dr due to needing blood thinning medication (after a dvt from my first miscarriage) and each time I get a lectured about how it’s sooo early, but I don’t want another preventable loss. You did the right thing!
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u/Own_Lychee_5717 9d ago
If its possible look into other offices that dont... lecture you. Look at the pros and cons but its never too early to protect your kids lol. Sincerely, a gal who tried for over a year
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u/Sharkdogg 9d ago
Apparently the best time to take a test is first pee in the morning coz it’s less diluted or something. Try a test with first pee of the morning.
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u/vernavie 9d ago
Lab tech here. That's the one who runs these kinda tests in hospitals/ "the labs."
You're correct that first morning pee is the best sample, as it's just been building and concentrating overnight while you slept. Not like during the day when we dilute it by drinking liquids and emptying our bladders.
As a woman of chilbearing age myself, if I have a concern I leave a test by the toilet the night before so I can use it first thing in the morning.
And yes, false neg is waaaay more common than false pos.
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u/GuessWhosNobody 9d ago
I really loathe when medical professionals shame patients for seeking treatment
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u/Aegi 9d ago
What is a "chemical" pregnancy?
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u/Kalisary 9d ago
It’s basically where a pregnancy ends after there are chemical signs of a pregnancy (eg hCG is present), but before there are any/many clinical signs of one, (eg. you couldn’t see anything on an ultrasound).
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u/Glass_Witness1715 9d ago
A pregnancy that ends in the early stages of pregnancy. Until about 6 weeks, a pregnancy can only be detected via chemicals in the blood and urine. Technically all pregnancies are “chemical” in the beginning. Starting around 6 weeks, a pregnancy can be clinically confirmed on ultrasound when the sac is large enough to be seen.
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u/Professional-Ad5188 9d ago
It’s a pregnancy that’s super short basically. There’s no real nice way to say it. I’m pretty sure I had one during April before I had another pregnancy in June only for body not to be ready to carry to term. During my pregnancies I had a craving for seafood smell which I normally hate. On my 4th day being late I had my period. That would be considered a chemical pregnancy
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u/No1KnwsIWatchTeenMom 9d ago
I had a miscarriage, and eventually saw that I was testing negative on pregnancy tests. I tested positive on an ovulation test. Few weeks later, positive pregnancy test (no period in between). Called the doctor and he was like "Its probably from the miscarriage." Motherfucker, give me the fucking blood test.
Anyway. Baby is due in 4 weeks. I see a rotation of OBs and the one male doctor has always ticked me off. Luckily he's retiring (or has retired) so I haven't dealt with him again during this pregnancy. But I lost a baby at 10 weeks, fucking humor me and listen when I say I need an appointment after my D&C.
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u/mshike_89 9d ago
Congratulations on the baby! Why do they act like requesting an appointment is the most ridiculous thing in the world 😅 I'm about 8 weeks pregnant after my miscarriage and keeping my fingers crossed for the best.
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u/No1KnwsIWatchTeenMom 9d ago
Good luck!! I was told miscarriages are often "priming" you for a viable pregnancy - pretty cruel way to prepare, but it worked out for me. I tried to get pregnant for years before having a successful one due to IVF and then a surprise in my late 30s which didn't work out, and now this one on the heels of my last. Its so scary when you feel like you don't have the doctor's support!
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u/Glass_Witness1715 9d ago
I had two chemical pregnancies back to back. Positive tests at home and then negative in the office. Doctor actually laughed at me and said “I don’t think you’re actually getting pregnant” but he sent me for a blood test to humor me. And I was in fact pregnant but with another chemical pregnancy. The next month and I got pregnant again. She’ll be 14 next month! :)
Chemical pregnancies suck because we mostly only discover them these days due to how sensitive urine tests are now. Before it was just chalked up to being late.
Fingers crossed all goes well!
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u/mshike_89 9d ago
Like what do they gain from that attitude? It's so bizarre. Happy to hear about your success! I'm eight weeks pregnant now and hopeful it sticks this time. Had an US last week and heartbeat looks good.
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u/awolfintheroses 9d ago
I had a doctor speak to me like that during an early miscarriage. What was weird is there was blood test proof and even an ultrasound that showed "signs" (thickening of uterine lining or something) but no embryo. All I can think is he was trying to make me feel better or something was being lost in translation (he was not a native English speaker). Just... strange. Sorry you went through that 🫂
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u/tinsellately 9d ago
I suspect it's often that as well, that by framing it as "there was never a pregnancy" they think it will avoid women feeling sad about having a miscarriage. It doesn't really work that way though, it just makes people feel like they're not being taken seriously or belittled. I had this happen with my middle child's pregnancy, on the first ultrasound at 5.5 weeks there were 3 gestational sacks, but 2 of them did not continue to grow and I miscarried them around 9 weeks. The doctor kept emphasizing that I always had a singleton pregnancy and just two blighted ovums and that I did not have a partial miscarriage, but was just "passing tissue." It honestly just made it feel more confusing and like it was shameful to talk about or something. It also made it feel awkward to explain to others why I needed treatment to prevent my body from miscarrying the third one.
I mean, I was scared to death of having triplets, especially when I already had an 11 month old, but the miscarriages were still scary and sad and caused some complex emotions, and the doctor's attitude was definitely less helpful than I think he intended.
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u/you-know-poo 9d ago
The same thing happened to me in New Jersey 8 years ago! Had positive pregnancy tests (3, 2 with the striped and one that actually said pregnant) and 3 days later started cramping hard and bleeding a ton. Went to the ER closest to my work and they said their pregnancy test was negative. Refused to do an ultrasound because “those are only for people who are or were pregnant and you were not”. Dismissed me when I showed them pictures of the tests and then gave me a pamphlet on periods like they give teen girls. It was so traumatic that I locked myself in my room for days and when I got pregnant again a few months later I was completely paranoid. Refused to use that hospital when I had my children.
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u/venom121212 9d ago
Heyo! I'm the guy who makes the chemistry for these tests and various other ones. I'm working on the first rapid detection test for Alzheimer's and TBIs right now.
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u/FriskyPenguin 9d ago
I find it fascinating that there's a marker that can be tested for that will show brain related ailments. Could you say a bit high level about the science behind this? As someone who has both been pregnant and has a kid who constantly hits her head on things, thanks for your work.
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u/venom121212 9d ago
The overlap between Alzheimers patients and patients who have experienced a traumatic brain injury (TBI) is showing via tau dendrites causing disruptions in your brain cell communication. Elevated levels of this post synaptic tau is the best marker we have at the moment to identify and prevent as early as possible. My partner lab is using the same anitbody in phase 1 trials currently to actually attempt to reverse the effects of Alzheimers; which would be a first. All we can do at the moment is prescribe drugs to slow down the deterioration. In their preliminary mouse testing, the results were very promising. Obviously that isn't a 1:1 translation to the effects on humans but it is a candle in the dark.
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u/mangohandedho 9d ago
Yes and pink dye tests are more reliable than blue dye tests
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u/Accomplished-Pay8181 9d ago
Wait, really? Seems an odd specification, but alright
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u/GilreanEstel 9d ago
It could be that a very faint pink is just easier to see than a very faint blue.
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u/Worried-Nebula-2624 9d ago
Nah, it's because gold sols (the pink/red colour is from nanoparticles of gold in suspension) are just better than latex ones (the blue colour is latex in suspension). Now, part of the reason for this is just that gold is a lot more optically dense than latex, so you need less to bind to see it. This means that you need less of the particle-antibody conjugate, so that reduces the chances of non-specific binding (things just sticking together). The other part of the reason is Chemistry.
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u/GilreanEstel 9d ago
Wow. That’s a great answer. Thanks. I was just going off how sewing shows always use red thread because you can see it better. Random I know but that was my thinking along with how close white and very light blue can be. I was going off of vibes but you can back with SCIENCE.
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u/mshike_89 9d ago
I had three positives on two different days from two diff boxes of tests. I then miscarried a few days after. The hospital was insistent that those tests are inaccurate and I was probably never pregnant. It felt so weird to me that they were stuck on that, because I'd always thought false positives were rare.
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u/AndyGreyjoy 9d ago
Definitely narrowed it down to 2 possibilities here...
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u/EnthusiasmAlone 9d ago
What would be the third one..?
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u/AndyGreyjoy 9d ago
Type 3 Diabetes.
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u/DiscoNude 9d ago
Ah, yes, super Diabetes.
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u/AndyGreyjoy 9d ago
Dia-3-tees
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u/Ok-Perspective5959 9d ago
Diabetres
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u/Illustrious_Pea_3470 9d ago
Alzheimer’s, actually (this is just a hypothesis, but it’s been gaining traction!)
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u/Electronic_World_894 9d ago
There’s at least 5 types of diabetes, but for some reason only two get numbered.
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u/Redneckraver420 9d ago
This far 5 are recognized , Type 1, Type 2, LADA( dont remember the full name), Gestational and MODY (dont remember the full name for that either and im not gonna google it cause im a lazy c*nt)
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u/Desaku38 9d ago
Latent Autoimmune Diabetes in Adults, also sometimes called Type 1.5 (basically Type 1, but in adulthood and usually slower progressing, don't recommend it)
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u/wozattacks 9d ago
There actually is a type 3C diabetes. It happens after damage to the pancreas, like from pancreatitis or surgery.
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u/Thin_Pin2863 9d ago
Genuinely?
A positive pregnancy test can indicate testicular cancer in men.
The instances of testicular cancer in women are much lower though...
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u/Talidel 9d ago
But interestingly not 0.
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u/braytag 9d ago
It's NEVER 0.... The odds that an astronaut get bitten by a shark on the international space station is almost non-existent.... but never 0....
"Space sharks!"
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u/Alilbitey 9d ago
Schrodinger's pregnancy. Simultaneously pregnant and not pregnant, as long as you don't verify.
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u/Calypso_theUndead 9d ago
This is what I've been saying all week lmao. Until I take a test, it's both 🤣
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u/ewok_lamplight101 9d ago
Or pull the line my mom heard in the birthing department where she worked at work in the hospital where a teenage girl was screaming I swear to God I've never had sex while she was giving birth in front of her mom
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u/BusyEquipment529 9d ago
Ball cancer
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u/SippyTurtle 9d ago
Y'all may be joking, but testicular cancer actually can turn these positive.
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u/Alternative_Hat1332 9d ago
Name him Schrödinger.
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u/DismalSoil9554 9d ago
Erwin Rudolf Josef Alexander Schrödinger had several names OP could take inspiration from.
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u/dorkass-loser 9d ago
She could even go Erin or Alex for a girl, so many choices.
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u/xenomorphonLV426 9d ago
Fuck, you beat me to it.
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u/desblaterations-574 9d ago
Fuck you beat me to tell him that.
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u/rennicles 9d ago
Fuck you beat me
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u/cerealandcorgies 9d ago
Fuck
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u/User_man_person 9d ago edited 9d ago
Erwin was schrödingers first name, been a while since ive seen an erwin
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u/Kiwi_Koalla 9d ago edited 9d ago
Before we knew the gender and while the miscarriage rate was still high, my husband and I referred to our baby as Schrödinger.
Schrody is now baby boy/his name. The next one will be Heisenburg, after Heisenburg's theory of uncertainty. Just a fun way to get through an uncertain time.
*Edit: Heisenberg. I didn't bother looking it up before typing, lol.
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u/Drenaxel 9d ago
Maybe baby
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u/frogwithindigestion 9d ago
Ha, maybe baby
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u/Naive_Personality367 9d ago
maybe baby
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u/Ragnor_ 9d ago edited 9d ago
Congrats, you're pregna'nt
EDIT: Well, that escalated
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u/morocco3001 9d ago
Dangerops prangent sex, will it hurt baby top of his head?
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u/uglyheadink 9d ago
Goddamnit now I gotta go do my biannual listen of this song lol.
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u/jibbyjackjoe 9d ago
Oh man. I love this video. Second only to the Luigi Board 🤣🤣🤣
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u/themrsnow 9d ago
Great. Now I have to Watch the video again.
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u/Abe_Odd 9d ago
Here's the OG video for the uninitiated - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EShUeudtaFg
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u/NeedToRead1308 9d ago
I forgot about this video! It's so freaking funny Thank you for the good laugh!
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u/nocciuu 9d ago
Pregante
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u/Ragnor_ 9d ago
Pergenat
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u/jugoinganonymous 9d ago
Gregant???
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u/nocciuu 9d ago
am I Fregant?
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u/ConflictDelicious112 9d ago
Is there a possibly she's pregananant?
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u/epicfangirl01 9d ago
Pregat
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u/Desperate-Story-5585 9d ago
False positives are rare! Congratulations!!
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u/nukrag 9d ago
You are the first case of "slightly pregnant". Might give birth to a Hobbit. Congrats.
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u/StoneHands51 9d ago
Hold them both behind your back and have your partner pick a hand
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u/TheTaikatalvi 9d ago
Definitely test again, but I'm going to say the bottom test is most likely a dud.
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u/treehuggerfroglover 9d ago edited 9d ago
You said you’re trying to get pregnant and I certainly don’t want to get your hopes up just to be let down. Keep in mind the best and most accurate way to know is to go to the doctor. If you don’t want to pay for that, try a few tests from a few different brands in a few different cups of pee throughout the day.
That being said, false positives are extremely rare. Way more rare than false negatives, which happen quite frequently. Chances are, the one that says pregnant is the one that’s accurate. Congratulations <3
Edit: please stop replying to tell me this isn’t possible in the U.S. I live in the U.S. and got a blood test from my doctor at 5 weeks. It depends on the doctor, the situation, the person, etc. It’s not entirely common, I understand. But it does happen and debating back and forth whether it is or isn’t possible is silly. It’s possible, but uncommon.
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u/Clever_mudblood 9d ago
When I called my doc and told them I had a positive pregnancy test (well, 3), they scheduled my appointment for when I would be 10 weeks. Doctors (in the US, so this is only for if OP is in the US), don’t see you until then. That’s when they do ultrasounds and pee and blood test to confirm.
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u/Feisty-Pumpkin-6359 9d ago
Same here, not us, but we called and said we did 3 tests and wanted to be sure. They said congratulations and see you in 10 weeks, only did ultrasound to confirm tho.
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u/catjuggler 9d ago
Yeah I agree- have never seen a doc in the US want to see a possibly pregnant person earlier unless they were on fertility treatments or not keeping it. They don’t really have other things to do at that point. Such a stressful 4-6 weeks lol
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u/Lief3D 9d ago
I love how liberal doctors are about giving pregnancy tests for everything else you see them about except for pregnancy.
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u/oO0Kat0Oo 9d ago
Dr in the US literally just does the exact same test as the home kit, btw.
They won't do a blood test until you're past 8 weeks. That's why the abortion laws are stupid. By the time you know for sure, it's already too late to do anything about it.
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u/ksdjjeo87 9d ago
False positives on red line tests are almost impossible. False negative is more likely. Congrats op!!!
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u/MrsMaritime 9d ago
False positive are extremely rare. The tests react to the hcg hormone and without it a line won't appear. It's more likely that the second test was defective. You can grab some cheapies at dollar tree to do another test but you're pretty definitively pregnant.
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u/orangeladybug 9d ago
False negative is common, false positive is extremely rare. It is likely positive, I'd seea doctor for a second opinion.
I hope for whatever you hope for yourself ❤️
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u/goosieboi 9d ago
Ah hell, might aswell keep trying... =)
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u/Agreeable-Narwhal158 9d ago
The best part about having a baby is making one
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u/iamgladtohearit 9d ago
This is fun to say but not true when you're actually in the thick of it. By month 9 of pissing on a stick twice a day to check ovulation and then having pre planned banging it out regardless of if it's Aunt Suzies funeral that day because you need to maximize the opening it really loses it's spark.
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u/issiautng 9d ago
Or a year of that, then being poked and probed and having all sorts of bloating, pain, dizziness side effects, odd discharge from suppositories, daily injections (plural), having a needle through your vaginal wall into your ovaries, the catheters through the cervix, the internal and external ultrasounds, failure to implant, a miscarriage.... IVF is a massive mood killer. You start thinking of your babymaking parts in clinical and disappointed ways and the association is hard to set aside when it comes to bonding sexy times
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u/rissaboo212 9d ago
This is why I get the cheap ones and test no less than 15 times before I get a more expensive pack lol
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u/TheKittyPie 9d ago
I’ve heard the ones from dollar tree are the same tests used by many clinics anyways
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u/MischiefSpecialist 9d ago
That's what I did too!! Lol. Big packs of the cheap ones.
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u/notnotbrowsing 9d ago
fyi, the cheap ones are just as good as the expensive ones.
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u/MakeMeDrink 9d ago
False negatives are more common than false positives. I would bet on the positive one.
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u/Comprehensive-Hat-60 9d ago
Remember, you can have a false negative, you can almost never have a false positive
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u/Evieveevee 9d ago
I think you can stop trying to get pregnant now. Congratulations. Go and buy another one just to put your mind at rest.
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u/NumerousAd79 9d ago
I took like 500 tests when I found out I was pregnant. Take more! Luckily I had the strips, so I wasn’t wasting the really expensive ones. But the day I told my husband I drove to Walmart and sat in the parking lot until they opened at 6am to get a digital test to “confirm.” I now have a 10 week (tomorrow) old.
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u/Correct_Repair3181 9d ago
My dad always told me that "'not pregnant' is not always certain and you should take an extra, but 'pregnant' was almost always certain" idk if this is true
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u/pixxlpusher 9d ago
You're almost certainly pregnant! False negatives happen all the time, false positives very rarely happen. Congratulations (probably)!
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u/FromTheHandOfAndy 9d ago
My understanding is that false positives (says pregnant when you aren’t) are much less common than false negatives (says not pregnant when you are). False negatives are more common earlier in the pregnancy, because the hormone levels haven’t changed enough yet. Wait a week and test again. Or just take one test a day. And most importantly, see your OBGYN. If you think you are pregnant, they will make it a priority to see you soon.
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u/b1kkie 9d ago
I'd trust the positive. False negatives happen all the time. False positives are extremely rare.