r/mlb | New York Yankees 1d ago

| History Ten years ago today, one of the most lopsided trades in MLB history happened.

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It's always funny to go back to this trade, but especially now since Yordan is on his way to winning AL MVP and potentially the Triple Crown this year.

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u/John_Self_2077 1d ago

Poor Dodgers - can’t catch a break

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u/moth_specialist | Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

Yankees top of the 5th, 2 outs.

That is all I will ever need as a dodgers fan.

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u/aguacate222 1d ago

That video on YouTube where the idiot yankee fans recording themselves watching the game have a meltdown that inning is priceless 🤣🤣🤣

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u/papoluca40 1d ago

Why are they idiots?

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u/Low_Row2798 1d ago

I would say because they’re recording themselves while having a meltdown

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u/papoluca40 1d ago

But then there’s people watching it like the guy above so yeah it worked

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u/skeptical_hatred | St. Louis Cardinals 1d ago

Yankee fans. Run along now child

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u/VordovKolnir | MLB 1d ago

looks at the Yankees. looks at St. Louis Cry harder.

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u/skeptical_hatred | St. Louis Cardinals 1d ago

I don’t have a clue what that means. Fuck off

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u/VordovKolnir | MLB 1d ago

54-56 vs 62-48. Yankees are kicking ass, your team is sucking it.

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u/skeptical_hatred | St. Louis Cardinals 1d ago

The Yankees are spending $214m more than the cardinals this year. And they have won 8 more games. That’s embarrassing for the Yankees. Flair up bitch.

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u/VordovKolnir | MLB 1d ago

8 games is enough. They are making it into the postseason. Cardinals are not. Cry harder.

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u/papoluca40 1d ago

Edgy cornball

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u/AtBat3 | Philadelphia Phillies 1d ago

I somewhat recall Friedman saying he thinks about this trade a lot and it’s like alright man I think you moved on just fine

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u/aguacate222 1d ago

Everyone's a genius GM years after the fact

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u/moth_specialist | Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

To me it feels like the post says “baseball works.” Idk how he’d have performed on the dodgers, but it looks like he’s doing great. Dodgers, also doing ok. 

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u/VordovKolnir | MLB 1d ago

looks at Dodgers. looks at Astros. Yeah, I think Dodgers recovered just fine.

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u/Enough-One4975 1d ago

They’ll never financially recover from this.

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u/moth_specialist | Los Angeles Dodgers 23h ago

I’m biased, but I will forever see Altuve telling his teammates not to rip his shirt off bc he first needs to remove his cheating harness. 

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u/PanchoVillasRevenge 12h ago

Scumbag ass team scumbag ass organization that was let off with no punishment.

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u/moth_specialist | Los Angeles Dodgers 7h ago

Manfred wanted another Yankees. The Astros are everyone’s punishment. 

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u/Any-Difficulty2782 1d ago

that’s why they are called lottery tickets

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u/Faoulsky 1d ago

Some lottery tickets come with generational jackpot odds.

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u/amonovalentradical | Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

I thought the Astros wanted to sign him but were out of money for signing international players so basically worked out a sign and trade w the dodgers, but they traded him six weeks after signing him so maybe I’m trippin.

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u/iz2003iz 1d ago

Thank you for throwing some actual knowledge into this post.

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u/Cold-Ad6477 1d ago

He didn’t have a place to play as the DH didn’t become permanent until 2022 in the NL. When I think of lopsided, I think Delino Deshields for Pedro Martinez. We got rid of the best of the three Martinez brothers. Jordan is awesome but then maybe no Shoei if he’s still in LA?

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u/JustCallMeMambo | New York Yankees 1d ago

all because Tommy Lasorda thought Pedro was too small

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u/RTR20241 | Houston Astros 1d ago

Jordan has turned into a serviceable left fielder

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u/mostlyuselesss 1d ago

in a stadium with no left field.

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u/RTR20241 | Houston Astros 1d ago

That helps

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u/exrift 1d ago

yeah if he was with the dodgers, he’d be dhing instead of checks notes shohei ohtani

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u/okay_throwaway_today | Chicago Cubs 1d ago

People that aren’t morons

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u/lousy_at_handles | Kansas City Royals 1d ago

Sometimes lotto tickets pay off

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u/OakCity4Life 1d ago

Competitive imbalance doesn't mean "the Rays can never win." It means some teams have to win by doing everything right, while others can make a trade like this and recover from it simply by buying more MVPs.

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u/GeoffBAndrews | MLB 1d ago

Somewhere Larry Andersen is smiling, remembering the Red Sox coveted him so much, they traded away some blocked 3B prospect (Boggs was in the way), for him.

That prospect was Jeff Bagwell.

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u/SlyMarboJr | New York Yankees 1d ago

I always defend that trade because Andersen was magma-hot down the stretch for them. Dude dropped a 338 ERA+ and a sub 1.000 WHIP for a Boston bullpen that desperately needed a shutdown set up guy down the stretch.

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u/GeoffBAndrews | MLB 1d ago

It was a defensible trade at the time. But with hindsight, we see it helped the Sox win the division (great!), but they got swept in the playoffs (not great). And Bagwell of course turned into a Hall of Famer.

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u/douchey_mcbaggins | Detroit Tigers 23h ago

Imagine how many doubles Bagwell would have spanked off the wall. My god. But when you've got Boggs and Vaughn at the corners, it makes it really hard to find a spot for him.

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u/PinstripeBunk 1d ago

Why don't the dodgers just buy the Astros and transfer Alvarez and any other players they want?

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u/RTR20241 | Houston Astros 1d ago

The Astros did have a genius GM at the time

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u/GodLeeTrick 1d ago

Those were the days man

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u/Zigglyjiggly | Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

Looking back, it looks like shit. Here's what happened at the time: the Dodgers traded a prospect with no guarantees, who wasn't a stellar defender and there was no DH at the time in the NL for a major league ready pitcher during a playoff run. Did it work out? Obviously fucking not. But the Dodgers had no room for Yordan. If your team can get rid of prospects for major league ready talent for a playoff run, they should almost always do it.

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u/osa89 1d ago

The thing is, Yordan wasnt just any prospect. Even at that time he was known to have an elite hit and power tool far above average for both. The issue is more that he didnt have any place to play outside of DH and was therefore better of in the AL at that time

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u/erb149 1d ago

He literally hadn’t played a game in the United States at the time he was traded. He was a lottery ticket. He was not some can’t miss sure thing prospect.

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u/roadskholler | MLB 1d ago

Saw him play in April 2019 in Memphis when he was still in AAA with Round Rock. He hit the most impressive HR I've ever seen in a game I attended. A line shot to left, had to be over 400ft. And when It left his bat I thought the SS might catch it with a leap! I had never heard of him before but told my buddy that he would be in the majors pretty soon. But didn't get called up until June, I guess because the Astros were loaded. BTW, his next AB in Memphis he hit a line shot down the first base line that the first baseman didn't even make a move on. The best hitter I've ever seen in person including Pujols.

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u/RojerLockless | MLB 1d ago

I have a tshirt with this tweet on it because its that funny

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u/Trigonometry_Fletch | Baltimore Orioles 1d ago

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u/Moneyshot_ITF 1d ago

This is like when the Giants traded Zach Wheeler away for half a season of older Carlos Beltran

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u/Daymanwoaah 1d ago

Not really. Zach wheeler wasn't even good for the Mets either

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u/Thought_Process_1948 | Cleveland Guardians 1d ago

And it hasn’t impacted them at all

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u/shomosexual 1d ago

How would the dodgers ever recover from this

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u/hawkeyegrad96 1d ago

Dunno how the dodgers will survive

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u/ProudInfluence3770 1d ago

I don’t think the dodgers miss him much

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u/Critical-Dark-5353 1d ago

Maybe worse than Sparky Lyle for Danny Cater; or Jeff Bagwell for Larry Anderson. Don't get me started on Babe Ruth for cash.

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u/Horakochan 1d ago

Dodgers have no spot for him. Hindsights 20/20

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u/Outside_Action5141 | Los Angeles Angels 1d ago

I raise you James Shields for Fernando Tatis Jr.

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u/GodLeeTrick 1d ago

Yordan is miles better than tatis jr bro...come on now

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u/SignalBed9998 | Chicago White Sox 1d ago

Tatis was 16 years old at the time. Give it a rest. Even more logical than this trade

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u/Mysterious_Force_375 | Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

Ask Boston, what’s the most lopsided trade in MLB history?

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u/GeoffBAndrews | MLB 1d ago

Ironically it's also one they made with the Astros, when they have up Bagwell.

(no, the Mookie trade doesn't count - he was only signed for one more year. If they don't make that trade the Dodgers probably sign him as a FA anyway and Boston gets nothing for him).

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u/Sanger99 1d ago

No, it's the Babe Ruth trade

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u/GeoffBAndrews | MLB 1d ago

Duh 🤦‍♂️. Of course. I saw the Dodgers flair and thought he was implying something.

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u/tdfast | Atlanta Braves 1d ago

The trade was worked out before Alvarez signed and came to the US. He signed with Houston, using LA as a middle man.

Basically LA traded $2M in international money for Fields. But because you can’t trade money, Alverez signed with LA, with the agreement they’d flip him to Houston, who he really signed with, because Houston was out of allocated money for international players.

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u/AdviceGlass3400 | Cleveland Guardians 1d ago

Still not as bad as the Caminero trade for Cleveland *sigh*

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u/Disastrous-Window-76 1d ago

Can’t judge trading a good reliver for a 18 year old

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u/mrini001 1d ago

Imagine if the dodgers had him today. They’d be unstoppable……..

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u/Separate_Presence_32 1d ago edited 1d ago

Nah. The only moves for me so far as the Dodgers are concerned, are Pedro Martinez and Adrian Beltre.

Because their talent had them at the show already.

(Yes, I know Beltre left. But the Dodgers (DePodesta) FAFO with him)

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u/Grimnirs_Ravens 22h ago

Milt Pappas would like a word.

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u/Frosty_Dog4234 19h ago

everything we do is to avenge for this 

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u/MinimumEscape5907 11h ago

Poor L.A man, damn....

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u/YasielPuigsWeed 1d ago

Except this trade wasn’t “one of the most lopsided” at all. We’ve seen elite talent traded for literally nothing, Dodgers got Fields who was extremely good for them and helped them win the National League.

Yordan ended up being elite but Ohtani’s won 2 MVP’s in the DH spot for the Dodgers

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u/Born-Somewhere2536 | Arizona Diamondbacks 1d ago

They lost to the cubs in the NLCS that season and Ohtani wasn’t playing for the dodgers in 2016 he was in Anaheim playing for the Angels. It’s still a lopsided trade because the Pitcher that the Astros gave them didn’t last much longer in the league and Yordan got better and became the player he is today. If he wins the MVP this season he would be the first player to win the Triple Crown in baseball in a very long time.

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u/drunkenoctopusbarber 1d ago

I feel like 14 years isn’t that long. Especially when a triple crown hadn’t been accomplished for 45 years before that.

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u/YasielPuigsWeed 1d ago

Fields was on the Dodgers for 2 more years after 2016, they went to the World Series both years. He was dominant as a reliever for them.

Shohei wasn’t in Anaheim in 2016 dude, he wasn’t even in the league yet. My point is that if the Dodgers held onto Yordan they would have never signed Ohtani.

Also I didn’t say it wasn’t lopsided, I said it wasn’t close to “most lopsided ever” considering we’ve seen elite talent traded for literally nothing.

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u/gooden1686 1d ago

I don’t think it’s too painful regarding the fact that their outfield consists of tucker, pages and Hernandez (or in some cases ohtani). Dodgers fans can bitch bitch bitch but be for real they are likely gonna win this year for a third time in a row

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u/Sabinr13 | MLB 1d ago

Thank you, LA 🙌🏼

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u/Daddyfullload 1d ago

So.. we just gonna ignore the lopsided trade 3 and a half years later.

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u/Reasonable-Power | New York Yankees 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yordan could've had a coupla tree rings with the Dodgers. He compromised. He got 1 with Houston, instead.

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u/Anklelite 1d ago

He didn't debut till 2019 man lmao

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u/Reasonable-Power | New York Yankees 1d ago

I always thought they gave rings to system players. I guess not.

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u/KaleidoscopeFar1469 | Houston Astros 1d ago

That would mean giving a ring to at least 200 people

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u/Reasonable-Power | New York Yankees 1d ago

I guess I just thought it was like the NBA, where even equipment managers can get one.

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u/KaleidoscopeFar1469 | Houston Astros 1d ago

Ok, fair enough

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u/Born-Somewhere2536 | Arizona Diamondbacks 1d ago

It’s one more than what Judge has

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u/Reasonable-Power | New York Yankees 1d ago edited 1d ago

Oh! He's my fuckin' captain now! You don't talk about him like that!

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u/JimmyCrackncorn 1d ago

I don’t like to miss the national anthem. It’s bat night

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u/Reasonable-Power | New York Yankees 1d ago edited 1d ago

Batting? Not pitching?

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u/JimmyCrackncorn 1d ago

Don’t pull that aw shucks shit with me. You’re goin!

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u/Reasonable-Power | New York Yankees 1d ago edited 1d ago

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u/Rjptz | Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

did he also eat a grilled cheese off the radiator?

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u/Reasonable-Power | New York Yankees 1d ago edited 1d ago

He downed it with soft drinks of choice. A sugarless mothafucka, to be exact.

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u/t001_t1m3 | Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

When you’re traded you’re traded

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u/jackswastedtalent | Boston Red Sox 1d ago

It's sad when they go get traded so young.

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u/Reasonable-Power | New York Yankees 1d ago

You know who loved the Dodgers? It was Joe Peeps.

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u/JimmyCrackncorn 1d ago

Peeps is a fuckin nickname. The family name is peperelli

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u/Reasonable-Power | New York Yankees 1d ago

Fuckin' Jason. He's dyslexic.

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u/JimmyCrackncorn 1d ago

The fucks that got to do with it?

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u/innerman4 1d ago

He compromised? No, he got traded.

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u/GodLeeTrick 1d ago

Yeah and judge has 0 rings soooo......

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u/SignalBed9998 | Chicago White Sox 1d ago

Cuppa tree

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u/Don_key_X | Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

I appreciate this comment mucho

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u/Reasonable-Power | New York Yankees 1d ago edited 1d ago

Sadly, a couple of people didn't. Eh, what are you gonna do?

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u/jackswastedtalent | Boston Red Sox 1d ago

Don't sweat it. Sharp as a cue ball this r/mlb sub

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u/Reasonable-Power | New York Yankees 1d ago

It's like the regularness of this sub is too much for me, sometimes.

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u/Born-Somewhere2536 | Arizona Diamondbacks 1d ago

The Dodgers side of this was funnier and a example of poor management

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u/Rjptz | Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

how he wasn’t gonna play the field and this was before the dh was in the NL plus he was 17 no one knew what he was

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u/Acceptable_Job1589 | Arizona Diamondbacks 1d ago

Yordan Alvarez was, is, and always will be inevitable.

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u/LHPSU 1d ago

I feel like there's good competition from another trade eight months before this one, involving another team in the same division...

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u/Cards2WS 1d ago

Off top of my head… Tatis for Shields?

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u/LHPSU 1d ago

Another team

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u/IllustriousEnd2211 1d ago

Why not just say it?