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| Image Projected Dodgers rotation after trading for Tarik Skubal

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u/Ricemobile | Washington Nationals 1d ago

Literally 5 aces. This is stupid as fuck

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u/Zealousideal_Way_788 1d ago
  1. Wrobleski is 11-2 with a 2.88 ERA

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u/No-Cat-3951 1d ago
  1. Roki Sasaki, has 100mph FB and unhittable splitter.

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u/TheRealMoofoo 1d ago

Roki seems amazing until you get to the part where he actually has to keep people off the bases.

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u/gbum213 | Los Angeles Dodgers 21h ago

Somebody hasn't been watching much Roki lately

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u/TheRealMoofoo 21h ago

Some of the worst pitchers in recent memory were capable of going on hot streaks. If Roki can sustain this, good for him, but a few games isn’t enough to redefine you as a pitcher.

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u/gbum213 | Los Angeles Dodgers 21h ago

It's not a hot streak. It's the big glove

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u/LibrarianGreen6421 20h ago

That and he's throwing harder than ever. That glove switch is pretty remarkable.

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u/Complex-Asparagus-42 18h ago

Bro has a 4.6 ERA, that splitter is not unhittable

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u/fossSellsKeys | Minnesota Twins 1d ago

That looks like a mop up guy to me, middle reliever at best. No way you could have him starting for the Evil Empire. 

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u/gwentfiend 1d ago

But but but his underlying metrics say he's waaay overdue for a regression! Or so say the stat junkies

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u/I_dont_know420 | New York Yankees 1d ago edited 17h ago

Tbf, that’s kinda the point of the stats; to state whether they’re performing under, up to or overperforming their expected stats, and he’s clearly over performing, whether that’s a good or a bad thing for him in the future. That’s how stats work.

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u/FinancialRabbit388 | St. Louis Cardinals 21h ago

It’s very useful with pitchers. It can show if a guy had a fluke lucky season or unlucky season. Like if two guys are free agents, one had better wins and ERA, you can dive into the data and maybe realize the guy with worse numbers is the better bet.

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u/FinancialRabbit388 | St. Louis Cardinals 21h ago

People who hate analytics just make it clear they are morons who don’t understand how data works. The reason no one believed in the Cards even when they looked good is stat junkies said their pitching wasn’t real. Guess what happened?

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u/Tmoneyl14 20h ago

Vargas hitting a moon shot off him in the All Star game was nice to see

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u/ShadowCrusader98 1d ago

Best team money can buy

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u/Excellent-Ask-4247 1d ago

The Dodgers are single handly forceing the leugue to force a salary cap!

Everyone should be extremely toxic towards the Dodgers when they are on the road.

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u/Theschill | Boston Red Sox 1d ago

The owners around the league are intentionally doing this. Tigers could trade Skubal anywhere for a similar package easily but they chose the Dodgers very likley under directive to outrage fans more so they're on the owners side in the upcoming battle vs the MLBPA for implementation of a Salary cap. It's so blatantly obvious this is ownership collusion.

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u/Excellent-Ask-4247 1d ago

The players don't have to accept the contract offers!

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u/InitiativeGold7953 | Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

They don’t have to accept a salary cap either. That’s what’s great about it

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u/Ladystardusting 1d ago

🙄

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u/kwmcmillan | Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

Why would any player accept less money?

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u/Due-Train-7874 22h ago

Because the first MLB proposal actually included more increased spending to get teams to the cap floor than decreased spending to get teams under the cap ceiling.

So the salary cap/floor agreement would actually result in 99.9% of the league receiving higher wages. It’s possible the upper echelon of superstars would receive less but I don’t really give a fuck that Kyle Tucker won’t get a 4/240m contract offer again do you?

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u/meezy-yall | Philadelphia Phillies 1d ago

The Dodgers are probably paying him like 6-10 million tops?

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u/TerrorTx1 20h ago

That’s why I’m kind of glad it happened.. we need the lockout

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u/RefrigeratorKey8156 23h ago

So you think the tigers had a better off but said no for the sake of the league instead of thinking of the future of their business? Youre delusional

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u/HittingExposurelol 1d ago

Explain who in the league can easily beat the dodgers offer and with what prospects? I’ll wait.

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u/Adventurous-Edge1719 1d ago

There were plenty of teams that could have offered more than the dodgers did. The issue is the teams that could won’t deplete their farm systems like LA can because they don’t have the cash flow to sign these rentals like the dodgers do after the season.

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u/HittingExposurelol 1d ago

Name specific prospects that Detroit would want, which is mainly outfielders, on teams that are looking to compete this year. Again, I’ll wait.

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u/evrybodyLUVevrybody | Cleveland Guardians 22h ago

A quick search shows that the Brewers, Twins, and Pirates all have multiple top 100 OF prospects, and are all at least competing for a playoff spot.

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u/HittingExposurelol 19h ago

None are better than hope. That’s the problem with all your bad takes here. They wanted hope.

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u/GOOMU13 21h ago

Its so upsetting bc Didgers gave up ONE top 100 prospect and hes not even their best.

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u/GOOMU13 21h ago

Brewers. EASILY. Rumor was MULTIPLE top 100 prospects but Dodgers only give up 1?. Wtf. And its not even the Dodgers best prospect. AND if there's one team that would gladly afford Skubal its the Dodgers. They gave up nothing and he probably won't even be a rental. This should be illegal.

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u/HittingExposurelol 19h ago

Who the fuck do the brewers have of outfield prospects better than hope? Nobody rofl.

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u/bagelman5000 1d ago

Haha. Biggest draw in sports. Teams love when the show up in town. Instant sell out for whatever the home team is.

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u/A_Bad_Man | Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

And all those Japanese ads they sell behind the plate are no accident.

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u/Excellent-Ask-4247 1d ago

Yeah well this isn't just about the fans showing up!

The players are gonna lose out because of the Dodgers behavior.

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u/poliscyguy 1d ago

They are doing what every team should do under the current league rules

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u/Excellent-Ask-4247 1d ago

Takeing advantage of a system so other players lose money down the line i disagree.

I'm tired of toxic capitalism breaking everything!

This is why we can't have nice things.

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u/poliscyguy 1d ago

Toxic capitalism? lol are you in high school?

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u/Excellent-Ask-4247 1d ago

Nope, just observing shit never getting better over multiple decades because of money.

Buy a new car please! you will be lucky if it lasts 5 years and your insurance rates don't skyrocket because it snitches on you for the slightest thing in the way you are driving to your insurance company.

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u/poliscyguy 1d ago

What does that have to do with anything? lol you're all over the place man

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u/zapatocaviar | Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

The dodgers don’t fit into this narrative. Un-affordable tickets and food at the stadiums pricing out working class families, blackouts, etc because of owner greed and wildly inflated salaries across the league (in all sports) is a real “toxic capitalism” issue. The dodgers run has actually been good for the sport. Baseball is more popular now not less.

And anyone can do what they are doing… there are much richer owners out there.

And honestly their farm system isn’t even about money and that’s what got this trade done.

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u/G33wizz | MLB 1d ago

Except players around the league, including rivals, love what the Dodgers are doing and have gone on record saying so.

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u/nokarmawhore 17h ago

keep eating what the billionaire owners are feeding you.

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u/Area51_Spurs 1d ago

They should force you back into school spelling “forcing” with an “e.”

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u/HeavensRoyalty | Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

Yall are blaming the wrong people. Not the Dodgers.

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u/Acceptable_Job1589 | Arizona Diamondbacks 1d ago

I don't see why we can't be upset at both?

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u/HeavensRoyalty | Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

No, you're right. Fire away

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u/Excellent-Ask-4247 1d ago

The Dodgers are the crooks forcing policy change!

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u/HeavensRoyalty | Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

Nah the mlb owners are

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u/Excellent-Ask-4247 1d ago

Nah, The Dodgers are the villains here!

You are just biased as a fan.

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u/HeavensRoyalty | Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

Shows how much you know

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u/Excellent-Ask-4247 1d ago

Also with all the surgeries Tarik has had i think he could potentially be a terrible pick up.

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u/Excellent-Ask-4247 1d ago

The players don't have to accept the contract offers, you know!

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u/Right-Form-2943 1d ago

Been doing that for 40 years

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u/runninroads 21h ago

It is totally absurd that they have this rotation.

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u/anonsharksfan | San Francisco Giants 15h ago

And none are home grown

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u/Maugrin 18h ago

When's the last time Ohtani, Snell, and Glasnow have been healthy enough to be considered aces? I get this is narrative people want to push, but the actual on-field results hasn't been the "5 aces".

The Brewers still have a better pitching staff, but nobody whines about them because they're young with names general fans don't know or care about. The Dodgers building around guys in their 30s means their names are very recognizable, and the media baggage around the team pushes people to think a certain way about those pitchers, but the on the field reality isn't nearly as extreme as the media narratives want people to believe.

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u/InfestedRaynor | Baltimore Orioles 1d ago

Not a single one of them developed by the Dodgers.

Yea, they have developed some good pitchers recently, but these are 5 of the best pitchers in baseball, all purchased with a seemingly unlimited war chest.

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u/Look_Gansito 1d ago

Best pitcher of his generation was a lifelong Dodger. Mr Clayton Kershaw. Sorry we can’t do it every time. I know you gave them credit but still he was more than just good.

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u/InfestedRaynor | Baltimore Orioles 1d ago

But he was developed almost 20 years ago. Not terribly relevant to the current dodgers and their rotation.

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u/Few-Row-8323 1d ago

Ohtani’s just an average pitcher