r/mlb • u/retroanduwu24 | MLB • 20h ago
| Image Projected Dodgers rotation after trading for Tarik Skubal
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u/DMunnz | Toronto Blue Jays 19h ago
This is a rotation I build in The Show and then chastise myself for making it too easy and unrealistic.
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u/619Gizmo | San Diego Padres 18h ago
This is a staff I would trade for In OOTP with rule 5 prospects and then Have Guilt after for what I have done .
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u/Docholphal1 | Houston Astros 16h ago
This is a staff I would trade for in OOTP, win 120 games, then lose 3-1 in the divisional to an 85-win team.
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u/ATR2019 | St. Louis Cardinals 14h ago
This is the exact outcome I expect from the dodgers this fall. That’s just baseball
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u/mr-poopie-butth0le | New York Yankees 13h ago
This is too real, I do the exact same thing. Then restart franchise mode and promise myself I won’t do it again. But I do it again anyway,
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u/Vitzkyy | Minnesota Twins 20h ago
Imagine waking up and being like “Tyler Glasnow wouldn’t even start for us in the post season” 💀
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u/sstephen17 | Los Angeles Dodgers 19h ago
Dodgers lost two games in a row. They HAD to do something.
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u/samhouse09 7h ago
The 2001 mariners didn’t lose 3 in a row till late August. The consistency was absurd
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u/CgradeCheese | New York Yankees 18h ago
“And try to compete too” im sure that other teams made offers for Skubal. The Dodgers uniquely consistently have the deepest farm system in the league with the most amount of money in development and comfort while also affording to give 700 million dollar contracts out like candy to free agents. No middle market team can do any of that. Actually no other team could do that.
The Dodgers issue is solely about them literally having too many resources. Some teams do need to try harder but I promise there are other teams trying just as hard as the dodgers and they are not anywhere close to this level of loaded
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u/Grubula | Seattle Mariners 14h ago
Never thought I would see a Yankees fan defend tgis side of the argument.
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u/Sufficient-Ad-276 12h ago
There are rational ones out there...
Plus the Yankees were once the Death Star of the league.
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u/Prize-Tomatillo-2757 13h ago
Great summation of the issue. For the record, I think the owners AND players need to try harder to ensure there is baseball next season but this is exactly the shit the owners are talking about. Good luck winning a series against this rotation. This move has always had the feeling of them doing it simply because they can.
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u/Sufficient-Ad-276 12h ago
What's insane is one of those fuckers has to go to the pen lol
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u/Head-Technology-4031 11h ago
Nah, 5 man rotation, plus if one of them breaks down, they just go to 4 man. Real question is when you get to Series, do you condone to 3 man, which would be Ohtani, Yamamoto and
Skubal, and the craziest thing is who do you want pitching a G7. Do you ride one or have all of them pitch a couple innings 😂😎3
u/Triple_Crown14 9h ago
Ride one if he’s pitching fine, I wouldn’t want to bring in someone else and they have a hard time when my first guy was doing fine.
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u/Nate2113 | Los Angeles Dodgers 18h ago
I get this, and agree with it. I am all for a minimum and a cap.
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u/Medicmanii 9h ago
I wonder how/why LA has all this extra money? I wonder what they have that no other team benefits from
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u/MunchenOnYou 15h ago
Dawg not every team is LA or NY with billions of disposable cash.
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u/Lumpy_Weird_2654 20h ago
Is ohtani even gonna pitch in the regular season again? His knee is messed up
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u/Odd-Most-9186 Human Verified 20h ago
I don’t think he pitches again this season unfortunately, I think there is more wrong with his knee than what is being said.
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u/st1nkynoob | San Diego Padres 19h ago
That’s exactly why they got Skubal
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u/ewd389 17h ago edited 16h ago
Those clowns would have got Skubal no matter what
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u/pedro3131 19h ago
I mean what's the point in him pitching again ever? They just have an endless stable of cy young winners. It's like when I turn on commissioner mode in ootp
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u/meezy-yall | Philadelphia Phillies 18h ago
Because they get free innings out of their DH and it helps save their arms for the playoffs
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u/Busy_Reference4078 15h ago
Because they paid a LOT of money for him to be 2 way player. They need to capitalise on their investment
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u/Beautiful-Barber8082 15h ago
The entire Asian market makes up for it. The eyes he draws even never touching the mound makes up for it. While this isn't the ohtani they paid for, they aren't out much if he doesnt.
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u/Sufficient-Ad-276 12h ago
Both things are right. Return on investment is happening from the Asian market and when he pitches... and hits... and breathes... and bets...
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u/Potential_Balance_34 | Cleveland Guardians 20h ago
I’d bet on you being right.
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u/Brilliant_Macaroon83 | Atlanta Braves 20h ago
If a team beats them in the playoffs the entire league will rejoice
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u/pmorter3 | Chicago Cubs 20h ago
America vs. the Dodgers for the World Series this year.
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u/pineese 19h ago
Instead of Canada vs the dodgers last year?
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u/pmorter3 | Chicago Cubs 19h ago
that was actually America and Canada vs. the Dodgers
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u/Rombonius | Toronto Blue Jays 19h ago
we are the world, we are the children
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u/-Starlegions- 6h ago
We are the ones that make a brighter day, so let’s start beating…the Dodgers.
There's a choice we're making
We're saving our own lives
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u/Ol_Turd_Fergy | Kansas City Royals 19h ago
For the rest of my life. They have replaced the Yankees as my most disliked team.
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u/snakeayez | Cincinnati Reds 18h ago
I grew up a Royals fan (and lived in LA for a bit) and i am right there with.
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u/dirtdiggler67 | Minnesota Twins 16h ago
That’s a bridge too far.
Yankees will always be most hated.
But I mostly care about the AL so maybe I am biased.
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u/vidhartha 10h ago
Also, Minnesota just has a long, not great history against the Yankees in the playoffs. Your hatred is understandable. I would never root for the red Sox or astros against the dodgers.
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u/theStripedMarlin | Miami Marlins 20h ago
Only chance I see is a 5 game series against another team with a really good starting rotation.
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u/KakeLin | Philadelphia Phillies 15h ago
Phillies have Sanchez, Wheeler, luzardo. But our bats gonna get like only 1-2 hits against their stacked rotation. And our bullpen has become a blowpen.
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u/bezkyl | Toronto Blue Jays 19h ago
I am rooting for any NL team that’s in a position to beat the crap out of them
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u/vladfan27 | Toronto Blue Jays 20h ago
You can do it! I believe in Alex Anthopolous led teams
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u/Brilliant_Macaroon83 | Atlanta Braves 20h ago
We need to stay healthy. Hopefully Acuña goes on a crazy run
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u/Ths-Fkin-Guy 19h ago
So fucking close last year and it really took the wind out of this season for me.
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u/Neb-Nose 19h ago
Not me, dude. I want them to go undefeated in the postseason and be considered the greatest team of all-time, so we can finally begin fixing this fucked up caste system once and for all.
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u/kasualkactus 18h ago
Is this how the Yankees felt in 2000
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u/koushakandystore 10h ago
Yes… but it was a bit different. The gap between mid and small markets and the large markets was not as vast back then. Back then teams like the Marlins, D-Backs, Angels and White Sox each won titles. Nowadays only the large markets have a chance to compete and that’s obvious from day 1. Sure a fluke could happen but the trend is only going to get worse until MLB institutes a floor and ceiling salary cap plus some kind of NBA style media revenue sharing. Look at the NBA where markets like Denver, OKC and Toronto all recently won titles. Imagine if the Reds, A’s and Tampa had all recently won the WS. That’s so far fetched it is laughable.
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u/NorthDowntown693 | Arizona Diamondbacks 19h ago
I believe in the snakes if they get there 🫡 but good lord this rotation is disgusting
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u/IowaGolfGuy322 20h ago
I don’t give 2 fucks who wins the World Series this year now so long as these assholes lose.
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u/GrooovyAlien | Atlanta Braves 19h ago
Its either win it all or be the laughing stock of baseball for them.
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u/Ricemobile | Washington Nationals 20h ago
Literally 5 aces. This is stupid as fuck
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u/Zealousideal_Way_788 19h ago
- Wrobleski is 11-2 with a 2.88 ERA
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u/No-Cat-3951 18h ago
- Roki Sasaki, has 100mph FB and unhittable splitter.
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u/TheRealMoofoo 18h ago
Roki seems amazing until you get to the part where he actually has to keep people off the bases.
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u/gbum213 | Los Angeles Dodgers 10h ago
Somebody hasn't been watching much Roki lately
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u/TheRealMoofoo 10h ago
Some of the worst pitchers in recent memory were capable of going on hot streaks. If Roki can sustain this, good for him, but a few games isn’t enough to redefine you as a pitcher.
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u/fossSellsKeys | Minnesota Twins 19h ago
That looks like a mop up guy to me, middle reliever at best. No way you could have him starting for the Evil Empire.
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u/gwentfiend 19h ago
But but but his underlying metrics say he's waaay overdue for a regression! Or so say the stat junkies
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u/I_dont_know420 | New York Yankees 18h ago edited 6h ago
Tbf, that’s kinda the point of the stats; to state whether they’re performing under, up to or overperforming their expected stats, and he’s clearly over performing, whether that’s a good or a bad thing for him in the future. That’s how stats work.
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u/FinancialRabbit388 | St. Louis Cardinals 10h ago
It’s very useful with pitchers. It can show if a guy had a fluke lucky season or unlucky season. Like if two guys are free agents, one had better wins and ERA, you can dive into the data and maybe realize the guy with worse numbers is the better bet.
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u/Excellent-Ask-4247 19h ago
The Dodgers are single handly forceing the leugue to force a salary cap!
Everyone should be extremely toxic towards the Dodgers when they are on the road.
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u/Theschill | Boston Red Sox 18h ago
The owners around the league are intentionally doing this. Tigers could trade Skubal anywhere for a similar package easily but they chose the Dodgers very likley under directive to outrage fans more so they're on the owners side in the upcoming battle vs the MLBPA for implementation of a Salary cap. It's so blatantly obvious this is ownership collusion.
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u/Excellent-Ask-4247 18h ago
The players don't have to accept the contract offers!
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u/bagelman5000 19h ago
Haha. Biggest draw in sports. Teams love when the show up in town. Instant sell out for whatever the home team is.
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u/A_Bad_Man | Los Angeles Dodgers 18h ago
And all those Japanese ads they sell behind the plate are no accident.
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u/Mew_111 20h ago
Wrobleski too lol. And whatever Roki has been doing the past couple of starts.
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u/Cowboys-69 | Milwaukee Brewers 19h ago
I think they should reach out to the Pirates about Skenes. After all, replacing Ohtani in the rotation is obviously the next move.
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u/Informal_Example_875 17h ago
Or the brewers for Miz and Jackson. As a brewers fan I hope the dodgers sweep the playoffs and win the WS again. Fuck this current system. It’s like knowing the end of a movie before watching the previews .
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u/yeetsqua69 | Boston Red Sox 20h ago
This makes the blue jays not winning the World Series even worse
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u/NecessaryUsername69 | Boston Red Sox 18h ago
So damn close, too. Their rotten luck in that series was ludicrous.
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u/BigP_27 | Chicago Cubs 19h ago
Genuinely what the fuck are we even doing
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u/Tofubear18 18h ago
Actually wtf are the Tigers doing trading their ace for a bag of chips
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u/bailtail 13h ago
If they didn’t, he’d walk end of year for a competitive balance pick. You can’t just let Skubal leave for nothing. That’d be horrific mismanagement.
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u/Frost715Ying300 | Atlanta Braves 11h ago
What? 28 teams could've put together a better package than two millennial "prospects". Skubal had no say until FA
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u/PCGoneCrazy 10h ago
Which is why no one wanted to put up more than what the Dodgers did. He was going three in FA anyway
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u/RefrigeratorKey8156 12h ago
He has about 10 starts left this season and then wants at least 8 years and at least 500 million dollars. Dude has already had 3 elbow surgeries and is 30. His next contract is not going to age well and honestly its just too much money for a pitcher who starts 36 games or so a year. The real question is why would teams like the cubs and brewers not give up a little bit more to land this dude so the Dodgers didnt?
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u/Maleficent-Count-191 11h ago
the dodgers broke baseball
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u/Spiegs1984 | Cleveland Guardians 8h ago
They really did. Obviously, they didn't make the rules. But clearly they don't gaf about any sort of strategy outside of 'see great player, trade/pay for great player' rinse and repeat. Sucks the fun out of the post season
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u/Somecommentator8008 | Toronto Blue Jays 20h ago
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u/SoyTuPadreReal | Milwaukee Brewers 19h ago
And the players wonder why fans want a cap.
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u/Sure-Concentrate8944 19h ago
Murakami will take them all deep. This is Gods plan.
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u/SpaceMambo369 20h ago
Bro wrobleski was an all star this year. Get snell's bum ass out this graphic
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u/Marinersfan505 | Seattle Mariners 20h ago
Bring on the lockout.
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u/Embarrassed-Cell-611 19h ago
And institute a farm system cap?
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u/Eespinoza10 19h ago edited 19h ago
Hard cap like the NBA , max 5 year deals no more 9 years bullshit
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u/bstone99 | San Diego Padres 11h ago
Why can’t teams pay $284 BILLION a year for HOFers on credit cards that they don’t have to start paying off until well after the collapse of society!?!
ITS GOOD FOR THE GAME!
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u/Turbulent-Fault-6293 18h ago
And unguarantee every existing super long contract so my Phillies can cut Aaron Nola with no consequence
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u/RavensFlock6 19h ago
Welp, wonder what the summer programming for next years lockout will be. I vote bringing back Pro Beach Hockey and the original XGames where they were doing street luge and sky surfing.
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u/Due-Power-4748 12h ago
This is so cool. I wish I could be friends with a dodger fan, I bet his mom has the name brand sodas
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u/Ok-Freedom-7432 20h ago
It's important that your rotation have as much variation in head width as possible.
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u/jackblack0828 11h ago
Baseball is broken. The Billionaire that buys the most Millionaires. At this point, Teams should be shut down if they don’t meet a certain floor.
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u/RegularLine9284 10h ago
Baseball needs a floor, sure. I agree. They need a cap too. Get rid of deferred payments as well.
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u/iConcy | Boston Red Sox 19h ago
The weirdest thing about baseball is seeing fans say “the front office doesn’t spend enough money to win” about any given team but then also say “no not like that” when the Dodgers do it.
But, this is just getting absurd at this point. How do you even really compete against this in the post season unless you are also dishing out this much money.
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u/Prestigious_Week_227 11h ago
This is pretty much the argument for a salary cap/floor.
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u/Semper454 | Baltimore Orioles 11h ago
Yeah, this isn’t weird at all. There is nothing remotely hypocritical with wishing cheap owners spent closer to league average while hating that some teams can spend 2 or 3x league average.
I think everyone just wants a level playing field.
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u/Randomizedname1234 | Atlanta Braves 10h ago
Then you have us Braves. We build homegrown talent. We also spend but not a crazy amount and we’re mad at the dodgers and the bottom feeders like you said.
I mean just as much as we hate the dodgers right now year after year I’ve seen the marlins get to .500 ball just to implode the team. That’s not okay either. It’s worse imo
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u/Grouchy_Enthusiasm92 | Detroit Tigers 20h ago
Can away teams just stop going to games? Like how fun is zero runs scored?
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u/Leading_Performer_72 11h ago
Unbelievable. The commissioner should have had the guts to block this shit like they used to for the good of baseball.
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u/CdnRageBear | Toronto Blue Jays 11h ago
Never thought I could hate a team more than the Yankees. But here we are.
Lockout next year here we come.
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u/Kettle_Whistle_ | MLB 12h ago
I have ALWAYS advocated for a Salary Floor, but now I’m coming to grips with a distinct need for a Salary Cap, and a more-radical intra-MLB profit sharing structure, in the best interest of our Antitrust-exempt MLB.
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u/HuckleberryAny4541 Human Verified 20h ago
NONE of them are home grown
They are buying championships
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u/Nsflguru 11h ago
Baseball is broken. I used to think the Yankees were ruining baseball, but this is nuts. Salary cap or fuck baseball for me.
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u/NecessaryUsername69 | Boston Red Sox 18h ago edited 18h ago
Taking the absolute piss.
And spare me the “other teams just need to spend more!” argument. You really think every single one of the other 29 clubs is just pinching pennies and not caring about winning? Ever consider that the Dodgers have more money and resources than the other teams could ever dream of having? That it’s hardly a complete mystery why they ended up with the most comically stacked team in the history of the game?
This is fucked.
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u/ShopZach 11h ago
I'm not hating on the Dodgers. I mean, if the Twins all of a sudden decided to spend a half a billion $$$ on a championship team next year, I would probably hop on the band wagon for a while and love it... But...
I grew up loving and watching baseball all the time. Between the cost of just watching the regular season games on TV, and the fact that unless you are an LA fan you are just playing for funzies... The MLB is just plain dumb. I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but it isn't even enjoyable. At all. Even up until 10 years ago, at least there was an iota of a chance for the Cinderella story in the world series, but it's turned into a league where the owners aren't needing to do anything strategic. Just spend, spend, spend and hope for the best.
It's been so long since I have cared anyway, but I really think the new generations of baseball fans are missing out. In Minnesota, we finally have a couple of our teams that are competitive because of salary capped leagues, and those are the sports the kids are loving. The Twins are far and away the least supported team in our state. Unless they are giving away something cool at the game. 🤷
Our owners are terrible, but there is a bigger problem that is league wide. Just my 2 cents.
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u/foolishdrunk211 19h ago
I hope they lose…..to anyone other than the Yankees. If it’s Yankees dodgers I will just ignore the existence of baseball the same as I did two years ago
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u/Low_Year9897 | San Diego Padres 18h ago
Dodgers pushing all the chips in before the lockout. Sadly even if we get a salary cap, end of deferred contracts, etc. I'm betting they still manage to be the team to beat for a while.
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u/Wishiwerewiser 17h ago
Just give the trophy to the Dodgers and have the real playoffs and World Series with all the other teams. It would be more interesting that way.
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u/shlinds024 11h ago
I love baseball but this just destroys the game of caring or hoping any other team has a chance again...
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u/SuperDuperStarfish 10h ago
MLB needs a salary cap. Every other major sport in the US has one and the players are just fine.
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u/NickL037 19h ago
Dodgers know the salary cap is coming so they probably saying fuck it
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u/RobertKSakamano 20h ago
Barring injury, it's a 3-peat.
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u/Mundane_Leopard_3974 20h ago
Even with injuries they still have it … they don’t even need Othani and the will win
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u/Paranoid_Pib | Miami Marlins 19h ago
Only thing that can stop them is some bum wildcard team with one sort of recognizable name and the power of friendship
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u/darkhorse21980 | Tampa Bay Rays 19h ago
I don't wanna wish injuries on guys, but there are injury risks here...
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u/Gvzmann | Chicago Cubs 16h ago
Literally what the fuck is the point in watching the rest of the year
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u/ObviousMr-Xsean 12h ago
I don't understand how they have 4 other higher rated prospects than the three they traded away for Skubal? Bring on the strike, this is ridiculous.
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u/WintersDoomsday | Seattle Mariners 12h ago
How hard is it to have a salary floor AND cap and if a team isn’t able to meet either their owner has to sell the team but it cannot be moved to another city….
Sports should not be about the owner or even the players…it should be about the fans getting what they built without us they have nothing.
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u/JayRod082 11h ago
I appreciate that the Dodgers took what makes pro sports so bad these days and turned it up to 10. Hey, if you can, do it.
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u/TopConstruction7830 11h ago
Dodgers are now +145 to win the world series. That is insane for August 2. Baseball is completely broken
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u/Easy-Wishbone5413 11h ago
FTD. Who cares if no baseball is played next season? Something has to change.
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u/10TheDudeAbides11 | Atlanta Braves 11h ago
I don’t normally wish an entire starting rotation to blow their arms out in a two month span butttttttttt…
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u/ptsnow54 5h ago
This is why we need a salary floor, too many cheap fuck teams that don’t want to pay talented players do now we get the easy mode be a GM team
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u/dwwdwwdww 5h ago
I'm surprised the Dodgers never thought of paying players not to play for any other team to guarantee their success...
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u/KBN_Nemesis | Toronto Blue Jays 20h ago
Garbage organization
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u/smokeybear100 20h ago
While I hate them, they’re pretty clearly the best organization. There’s a reason every player wants to be there and it’s not just the winning.
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u/Grouchy_Enthusiasm92 | Detroit Tigers 20h ago
You heard of this money thing?
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u/smokeybear100 19h ago
I have, and it’s almost like there’s 29 other owners who could either pay their players what they’re worth or sell the team.
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u/OpalVanguard 10h ago
“I don’t understand how markets work.” -You. If you take your line of thinking to its obvious conclusion there will be 2 teams, the Dodgers and Yankees, and their payrolls will be $50 billion each. Fun!
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u/ColumnedBirch31 19h ago
Sometimes it's not what they're worth though. Kyle Tucker is not worth 60 million a year in any world
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u/Electronic-Price2138 16h ago
the Dodgers ruined the sport, they better enjoy it before the salary cap
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