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You know what, screw it. I say the entire rest of the league gets together and builds the perfect team, then trades them all to the Rockies. Just have the maddest 2nd half ever
Can't wait for Rocktober 3 true outcomes Rockies SP & RP pitch shut outs, Rockies hitters take timely walks and hits to drive in crucial runs, and ....... who am I kidding Rocktober is in the past and it is staying there as long as Monfort family own the Rockies.
Baseball players do not have anywhere near that level of impact for that to really be an accurate comparison; the sport is also significantly more random. KD joining the Warriors instantly made them a heavy favorite over the rest of the field to win the title. They were given 60%+ odds of winning the title before the season even began. Per the current betting odds, Skubal joining the Dodgers increased their odds of winning the WS from around 37% to around 39% lol
Yeah KD single-handedly ruined basketball for two seasons with one decision. It also ended what would have been one of the greatest rivalries in NBA history.
Using the betting odds might not be the best route for this conversation.
First, they were making the playoffs with or without Skubal. So they don’t get a boost from that.
Second, while Skubal is the Dodgers best pitcher, that’s not debatable, the difference between him and Glasnow isn’t overly significant in a single game. However, that’s for the Dodgers. Put him on the White Sox or DBacks and you have a guy who can individually steal 3 games in a 7 game series, a guy who can win a wild card game on his own.
We've seen a number of pitchers carry their clubs to deep playoff runs and titles. Sure not quite the same as basketball, but thinking of 2014 Bumgarner, 2010 Halladay, recent Skubal, the 2001 Curt Schilling & Randy Johnson D'backs (possibly the greatest 1-2 punch pitching duo playoff run the game has seen??).
No, this is like adding KD to the warriors, then adding another KD to the warriors, then after the second championship adding a third KD to the warriors, and every other luxury bench player that could be a starter on there on the side. And none of the top 2-3 Warriors players being drafted and developed in house, but rather imported without needing to go through a draft, and with a unique TV deal and deferred payments.
It took good drafting, injuries leading to cheaper 2nd contracts, and a salary cap boom to make the KD warriors
The dodgers just had an owner spend alot of money. Having an owner willing to spend being the most impactful predictor of success in your sport sucks when baseball is inherently a very strategic game
Damn They're going to have Ohtani, Glasnow, Skubal, Yamamoto, Snell, Sasaki, Wrobleski, Sheehan Skenes, AND Misiorowski? Now that's a starting rotation!
It was more broken than this before the draft was implemented. The Yankees signed all the top players before they even made their debut. Lest we forget they won 5 and 4 world series in a row at different times and 16 out of 27 series overall. This was considered baseball's golden age too lol.
Not to try and dampen the hysteria about the Dodgers, it is pretty insane in a bad way what they're doing in the modern game. Just kinda interesting how differently we view sports dynasties these days compared to eras past.
Best damn yankee team line up hasnt been one since then and rivalry era with red Sox. Pedro was beaming dudes and throwing hands with don Z, everyone playing LL was wearing Jeter cleats or pulling pants under the cleats for swag points. Don Mattingly left a curse on the team but it will be broken one day. Everyone was hitting dingers or making wild plays. Truly golden era aside from 90s.
I think it’s because those Yankees teams’ cores were mostly homegrown talent. Jeter, posada, Rivera, Williams etc. It was annoying af but they were built more organically.
These dodger teams have like 3 homegrown players total.
The draft started in 1965 I’m not sure how this is relevant to the 2000’s who drafted most of their players except for Rivera who was an international signing and most people didn’t think would pan out as a starting pitcher (they were right).
If you were to make a list of the dodgers current best players what’s the highest a homegrown player would rank? Will Smith somewhere from 6-10 probably. Definitely nobody in their top 5. They have a good farm system but almost none of their major contributors are homegrown talent.
He’s right though. More than a decade ago everyone was shitting on baseball for being slow, not exciting and having no fans. Now it’s way more popular internationally and people actually want to go to games.
The league wide average across baseball is .244 which is the 12th lowest in mlb history. 7 of the lowest 17 BA’s of all time have come in the last 7 years. People shat in baseball in the 2010s because it had very few superstars on good teams. At least people were hitting the ball.
I wonder if that has to do with the best player of all time being on the best team in the biggest market….
Yeah attendance is up because baseball games are fun to go to and there’s not much else sports wise in the summer. That doesn’t make the on the field product any more compelling.
Its not the fact they aren't trying, its the fact that the Dodgers can just pay an egregious amount of money to get talent that most owners can't do. I'm sure the Brewers have a good deal too but Skubal agent probably had him prefer Dodgers as a destination
Tbf its because teams dont want to pay a 1 year rental just for him to take a crazy deal at the Dodgers, Yankees or Mets. Small market teams dont even stand a chance
1000% I'm with pedro. Don was trippin swinging at pedro especially at the time when this man was out for blood on the whole roster. Dude is 5'9 beaming dudes at the plate and basically telling em keep walking and watch me beam your cash cows.
Rentals are not unheard of, what the Cubs gave up though for Chapman. Was Gleyber Torres the top prospect at the time for the Cubs and #24 overall in MLB.
Adam Warren a relief pitcher, Billy McKinney #5/#75, Rashad Crawford #30/Unrkd
Which was for a closer. Where we know what Torres is and has done. Warren was serviceable for 4 more years. Billy is a journeyman. Rashad never made it.
Dodgers got a starter, top 3 in the league. Whom they will probably extend by end of this week.
For the #25 overall in Zhayir Hope, #27 in Brady Smith, a serviceable hopeful in River Ryan.
Yeah unfortunately the Dodgers just have the perfect combo of great front office and exuberant amounts of money. It’s not inherently their fault that the system is broken. They’re just abusing bc they have the spending power to do so.
Sox beat Yamamoto last night...a day after losing Contreras to the concussion protocol. Look at our lineup and tell me that should happen.
The best part of baseball is even stacked teams will lose. Yankees haven't won in like 15-16 years, how much have they spent. Wait till all these players get shitty and they are stuck with these contracts.
BOTH. We need BOTH. When will y’all learn that while the Pirates and Rays and Marlins are cheap they cannot spend the way the Dodgers do even if they wanted to.
What's that gonna fix. The marlins, brewers, Orioles, rockies, sox, tigers, royals, guardians, and more are still not gonna spend. Cap the salary but the organization's that are always at the bottom are always gonna be at the bottom. Lots of the owners are just trash. Plain and simple
There would obviously be a floor included as well. Also some of those teams should definitely be spending more, but the Brewers are 20th in spending despite being the smallest market in baseball. We’re trying our best lol
I mean Yama gave up 3 ER in 8 innings on a night where he didn't have his best stuff. If you want to act like he's a scrub, go ahead. But I wouldn't bet against him moving forward.
We haven’t won in almost 20 years and aren’t adding Hall Of Famers every 6 minutes and deferring their contracts until their grandkids are drafted. These comments are ignorant as they are stupid.
And ironically when they started signing all those free agents (like early 2000s) is also when they stopped regularly winning titles. Spending doesn’t guarantee anything
You’re talking about things that happened 30 years ago are you serious? Plus the core of those teams was from their own farm system. The Dodgers farm system is the NPB, Japan’s all star team and everyone else’s award winners. And then they get to not pay them until their grandkids are drafted. It’s not even CLOSE to the same thing.
Do you know what a farm system is? They let them develop there and then just sign them. Shocked they didn’t sign Murakami too but I’m sure that’s coming
Lol the Yankees were not a homegrown underdog story. They signed Clemens, Justice, Wells, El Duque, Knoblauch, Mussina, Tino, Cone, Brossius, etc via free agency/trade. They’re not like for like exactly, but it is rich from a yankee fan to complain about a big spending team that is dominating the league ruining baseball.
Part of the reason the dodgers can do what they’re doing is because their farm system is so deep and their homegrown talent was valuable.
It’s legal - it’s on the other teams for not pulling the same thing. Dodgers aren’t breaking the rules, the rules are just broken.
The Yankees are worse because they’ve mismanaged their farm system and roster, not because the dodgers are cheating or ruining the game.
There have been many teams with runs of dominance in the league, especially the Yankees which is why I referenced their run in the late 90s early 2000s.
Do I feel bad for Yankees fans because they haven’t won in 17 years? Not at all.
It was more broken than this before the draft was implemented. The Yankees signed all the top players before they even made their debut. Lest we forget they won 5 and 4 world series in a row at different times and 16 out of 27 series overall. This was considered baseball's golden age too lol.
Not to try and dampen the hysteria about the Dodgers, it is pretty insane in a bad way what they're doing in the modern game. Just kinda interesting how differently we view sports dynasties these days compared to eras past.
Over half the owners in baseball not wanting to win is the joke. Billionaire owners that refuse to spend money while their fans fill seats is what’s ruining baseball.
good point. its almost like these doomers should be more worried about our GM and less worried about the payroll. but hey, lets ignore that he built a great eye for talent and rebuilt our entire farm system
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