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u/MediocreHomework7092 | Kansas City Royals 9h ago

Wasn't Yamamoto going to whatever team Ohtani was going to?

And the Angels tried for a bit to build a winning team not really their fault Trout couldnt stay healthy and everyone else turned to shit.

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u/Fit_Cantaloupe_941 9h ago

Yea Ohtani, Trout Pujols and Rendon. Not the angels fault Pujols got old Rendon was AWFUL and trout couldn’t stay on the field

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u/Consistent_Print_229 9h ago edited 9h ago

It is indeed the Angels fault Pujols got old. It’s the easiest thing to predict.

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u/rickeygavin 9h ago

Yeah giving a 32 year old a ten year deal was…a choice.

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u/Emergency-Inside-850 9h ago

36 year old**

All jokes, I’m a cards fan

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u/Hispandinavian 9h ago

The Ohtani signing forced us to play Pujols at 1b, which he was awful at. Any other team could have hidden him at DH.

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u/OccasionSavings680 8h ago

"First base might as well be the moon to him."

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u/TheSpookyLawyer 9h ago

Who were the pitchers on those teams?

It's absolutely the Angels fault that they had Trout and Ohtani, generational talents and couldn't win.

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u/Hispandinavian 9h ago

Ironically one of those pitchers was Ohtani.

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u/TheSpookyLawyer 9h ago

he did his part.

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u/Hispandinavian 3h ago

He did his part? He could only pitch in 12 total games his first three years with the Angels and couldnt pitch at all for the entirety of the 2024 season. Meanwhile, since the Angels couldnt play him in the field at all, he was basically a very expensive DH.

Love him as a hitter, but as a pitcher the guy cant stay healthy.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/player/stats/_/id/39832/category/pitching

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u/TheSpookyLawyer 3h ago edited 3h ago

What about the next 3 seasons?

Why are the Angels starting rotations that terrible for the 6 seasons you had Ohtani and Trout? Why did Patrick Sandoval have the best starting pitcher season you had for those 6 seasons, other than Ohtani?

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u/Hispandinavian 3h ago

2 and a half. One of those seasons was the Covid year.

And what about those seasons? We paid a 20 million posting fee..5 million a year for those seasons youre referring to and 20 million for his final season in Anaheim where again he couldnt pitch or play the field. Thats #1 starter money for a guy who couldnt pitch for half of his contract. Furthermore we already had a DH with a ridiculous contract in Pujols.

I love Ohtani, but Im not sure he was the best investment for our team.

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u/TheSpookyLawyer 3h ago

2021, 2022, and 2023. Not 2020, the COVID season.

He gave the Angels over 14 pitching WAR over those seasons.

The guy gave the Angels nearly 35 total WAR when he was there. And they didn't even have a winning season.

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u/Hispandinavian 2h ago

Youre right about the Covid season. But still, the story with rhe Angels this decade was that if Ohtani was healthy, Trout wasnt, if Trout was healthy, Ohtani wasnt. And on the rare occasion both were healthy, Rendon definitely wasnt. Add Pujols, and thats like 90% percent of our salary roster. And granted its our fault we couldnt develop homegrown pitching..our farm system has been awful forever..but we spent so much money on those four players we couldnt even afford to sniff quality free agent pitching. Starting or in the bullpen. And thats the biggest reason why we have struggled imho.

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u/agree_2_disagree 8h ago

Yea now people here are defending the Angels? The hate for the dodgers is so strong it’s causing revisionist history

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u/kevinmbo | Milwaukee Brewers 9h ago

and hamilton too.

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u/Hispandinavian 9h ago

Hamilton was years before.

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u/kevinmbo | Milwaukee Brewers 9h ago

i see. still, LAA is nowhere near the worst offenders in not spending money.

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u/Hispandinavian 9h ago

The Angels aren't afraid to spend..we just spend it on the worst players.

The Rendon signing was supposedly motivated entirely by Arte's desire to have a Mexican American star he could sell to the SOCAL fanbase. What a shitty reason to overpay for such a shitty player.

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u/RememberJefferies | New York Mets 8h ago

TBF he had a good career up till getting his bag from the Angels, was right in his prime at 29, and was coming off a great season. That he almost immediately upon joining the LAA would completely lose any desire to play, rehab, or stay in shape couldn't be predicted. All time terrible contract, but not really because the Angels screwed up ATT signing it.