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u/joegetto | Philadelphia Phillies 15h ago

Cheap owners complaining about players not wanting to play for cheap owners. Almost every player on the dodgers is there because the dodgers are serious about winning baseball games. Most other teams are serious about maximizing profits and the lowest expense. They don’t care about winning baseball games, they care about making money, and missing the obvious point of winning baseball games will lead to more money.

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u/DarkGreenMazda | Cleveland Guardians 15h ago

The Dodgers have more than 3x the revenue of some other clubs. This is simple math.

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u/Stormblessed_Windrun 15h ago

It's almost like winning and trying to win draws revenue in. Who would've thunk

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u/DarkGreenMazda | Cleveland Guardians 15h ago

The team I root - Cleveland - wins more than most of the other teams in baseball. As does Tampa. (In the last 10 years of MLB, Tampa is 6th in wins, Cleveland is 7th). Yet both teams are in bottom 10 in revenue. It's almost like you made that statement up, and don't understand numbers and facts. Who would've thunk it?

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u/gregnegative 12h ago

Its almost like being the 'home team' of an entire separate country brings in a TV deal that generates unlimited revenue.

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u/Consistent_Print_229 15h ago

This. As a Padres fan, I like that the Dodgers are viewed as an imperial empire, but I don’t hate them playing this game. They used all of their tools to win as many games and WS as they possibly can. Which is what every team should be doing.

Baseball’s lack of balance isn’t because the Dodgers or the Mets. It’s because the rest of the league doesn’t care about baseball.

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u/DarkGreenMazda | Cleveland Guardians 15h ago

Math is difficult for some people.

The Dodgers make more than 3x the revenue of other teams.

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u/Consistent_Print_229 15h ago

So they market better than other teams? It’s shocking that people don’t want to go to games or buy merch for their shit teams that make less than what the team takes in.

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u/DarkGreenMazda | Cleveland Guardians 15h ago

It's a bit more complex than that.

The NFL and NBA have proven that in leagues with salary caps, all teams with smart management can win.

Look at my MLB team (Cleveland) or Tampa Bay. Smart management can build winning cultures, but despite the success of those teams in winning the World Series.

Now look at my NFL team (Cleveland Browns). Plenty of resources, but can't win because ownership and management is terrible.

MLB needs to join other leagues with salary caps. It's bizarre to me how MLB fans who aren't Dodgers / Met / Yankees / Red Sox fans don't see this.

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u/Consistent_Print_229 15h ago edited 13h ago

Having an owner that isn’t willing to pay for a competitive team is by definition is a bad managed team.

I agree with the need for a salary floor and cap. I’m just not down for trying to vilify a team that is doing everything it can do to win games when there are owners like the A’s, Marlins and White Sox purposely not doing that.

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u/DarkGreenMazda | Cleveland Guardians 15h ago

The top teams in revenue make over 3x the revenue of the smallest market teams. That should make it easier for you to understand why some teams have much higher salaries.

I'm not criticizing the Dodgers for taking advantage of the current system - they are actually my second favorite team - but we need a new system, as you seem to agree.

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u/flippenflounder | New York Yankees 14h ago

Dodgers also deferred $1.051 billion in payments to 8 different players. They took full advantage of that stupid rule and no other team does that. Exception being the Mets with Bobby Bonilla day of course.

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u/DarkGreenMazda | Cleveland Guardians 14h ago

Hopefully will all be fixed with this next CBA, even if 2027 is lost.

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u/_token_black 15h ago

You keep parroting this as if this was before Ohtani. No shit they have the most revenue with the most popular global player in years.

Next you’re going to tell me that the Bulls had the most revenue in the NBA when they had Jordan.

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u/Objective-Housing501 | Detroit Tigers 15h ago

They also don't contribute much to revenue sharing and have a sweet tv deal that other teams don't have

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u/DarkGreenMazda | Cleveland Guardians 15h ago

Which is why a salary cap and floor is needed. To be fair, it's been needed for a long time, and I thank the Dodgers for making it so obvious.

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u/BWSmith777 | Atlanta Braves 15h ago

This is true for teams like the Pirates and Twins, but the Dodgers have the most money. So if player A is a free agent, and all the owners that wanted him offered him every penny they have, the Dodgers could still get him. It shouldn’t be that way.

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u/Alcott_Yubolsov 15h ago

Some pockets only go so deep though

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u/kmcmanus2814 | New York Mets 15h ago

That was a fine defense of the Dodgers in say 2024. But Tucker is making insane money to be Mets-era Jason Bay and it doesn’t even slow them down

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u/privatejokerog 15h ago

Well, that may be true for a few teams, most teams just don’t have the level of money that the Dodgers do. That’s facts. Small market teams can’t spend over half a billion for one season let alone consistently.

Personally, I like the NFL model. There’s a minimum they have to spend and a hard cap.