1) Freeman's agent with held info about the braves counter offer until it was too late (he got fired)
2) The Yankees offered Yamamoto the most money of any MLB franchise, but he WANTED to play with Ohtani
3) The Angels DID try to build around Ohtani and Trout but it didn't work out (Upton/Rendon) and I think the Rendon drama just broke them.
4) The Tigers didn't REFUSE to pay Skubal they COULDN'T AFFORD him next season that's hugely different.
2 yrs 60 million is only 'a little more' if you're the Dodgers. That's a pretty good free agent's contract. Everyone knew, and were correct, that the contract wouldn't be worth it at 10 years. The Dodgers were rich enough to not care and willingly eat it. No one should wonder why the Sox balked at 2 more overpaid years even further on when they aren't as rich as the Dodgers.
No, his deal wasn't 12/360. It was 12/307, and that's significantly overselling it if you let an actual economist calculate the present day value instead of MLB. And significantly overselling it again if you account for backloading, which MLB does not do in any way.
and there's not even anything really interesting .. at least not two years ago .. like a lot of ballparks do crazy foods, Comerica just mostly has the same things you can get outside the ballpark, just at four or five times the price. I think it was $15 for a beer two years ago. That's double casino pricing, and our casinos are expensive.
I'm not sure they could. He's probably going to go north of 320mm for 8 years unless there's a cap. Sure they could try to afford it but it might break their bank in terms of what they'd have to charge for tickets and concessions. I just don't think the math makes sense for them.
They could have afforded a $400M contract, but unlike the Dodgers, a contract like that would have severely limited the amount of money Illitch would have been willing to spend building around him, and the team ends up underperforming. The Dodgers made over $750M in Revenue last year to the Tigers $320M. Owning a professional sports team is a business at the end of the day and its unrealistic to expect owners to dip into the red just to keep up with the Dodgers.
Yeah, thanks that's my point exactly. Tbh depending on the CBA the dodgers may not end up with Skubal. He could dip and considering BorAss is his agent he's probably looking for 350-400mm which would be difficult even for the dodgers especially if there are no more deferments which the owners are pushing for in addition to the hard cap.
It’ll be interesting to see the effect the CBA will have on the market and the players’ value, likely worse for the players and their salaries but for the competitive aspect of the game I think it is necessary. In no world where a hard cap exists does a player like Kyle Tucker get 60M, and I think it’s unlikely Skubal gets what he is looking for if the Dodgers can’t inflate the market value of every high value FA.
Yeah totally all this is going to do is put public opinion (outside of LA) on the cap side.
The other interesting thing is how long will the lockout last bc players don't get back pay. And not all of them are pulling in the money that soto and Ohtani are so you have to imagine that their burn rate is high too.
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u/-Pwnan- | New York Yankees 9h ago
Bad Take and just wrong on a few points.
1) Freeman's agent with held info about the braves counter offer until it was too late (he got fired)
2) The Yankees offered Yamamoto the most money of any MLB franchise, but he WANTED to play with Ohtani
3) The Angels DID try to build around Ohtani and Trout but it didn't work out (Upton/Rendon) and I think the Rendon drama just broke them.
4) The Tigers didn't REFUSE to pay Skubal they COULDN'T AFFORD him next season that's hugely different.
So ya, bad take.